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Wikipedia:WikiProject South Dakota

Welcome to wikipedia, and welcome to the project. We are a comparatively new project, and realize that most of our work is still ahead of us, so I am sure we are all very grateful for your joining and any help you may give us in improving the articles relating to South Dakota. I am currently rather busy in other areas, and have less time to devote to the project than I would like, but if you should ever have any questions regarding wikipedia, or any requests for assistance in any area of wikipedia, please feel free to leave a message either on the project talk page or with me directly at my talk page. Welcome again to wikipedia, and thanks for joining the project! Badbilltucker 14:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Michelle Manhart

See WP:RS#Bulletin boards.2C wikis and posts to Usenet. Due to that, I don't think that blogs would work either. I'm not really a sources expert but a bunch of guys on a message board isn't really verifiable for this sort of thing.

The best thing I can think of would be to search the archives for local newspapers in the Lackland AFB area. Or if the base has a paper of it's own, then that might have real name info as part of one of the stories on her. I'll agree though that the photo does look like her.  :-) And also having a birth name would be a good addition to the article if it's different from what she's going by now. Best of luck... Dismas|(talk) 05:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Flypast

Dear RJASE1, I am the creator of the Flypast article and wonder if you would consider rewording your second sentence, "It might interest people to know that the UK isn't the only place where flypasts happen".

I will concede that your first sentence was fine ("too much UK focus") but I found the second to be unnecessarily sarcastic and somewhat distorting.

I do not object in principle to your placing this on the military history project - I'm no military person, myself - but I do find that sentence somewhat caustic and reductive, given that there is a whole section on international flypasts and I ran pictures and descriptions of flypasts in several countries.

I spent about three months researching that article and gathering all the references I could find and went to great lengths to include as much as was within my power and resources.

Please reword the second sentence of your proposal to more accurately reflect the article. I will be interested to see the improvements to the article.

I will post a copy of this to Talk:Flypast and would ask you to reply there. Thanks. -- FClef (talk) 23:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it wasn't me that put that comment in - it was the anonymous user who made the edit prior to mine. - RJASE1

Tagging and Assessing

Feel free to assess any of the articles you are tagging with the WPMILHIST banner--Looper5920 06:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I was starting to feel guilty about the work I was throwing on you. I'm fairly new, but I'll read up on the assessment criteria and give it a shot. - RJASE1 13:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Flypast - oops, my mistake, and Military History Project rating

Dear RJASE1 - Forgive! Forgive! Not only did I miss the name of the user, but I had completely the wrong end of the stick. And thanks for your compliments to my article and for giving it extra visibility. I am a relatively new writer/editor, as yet ignorant of projects or assessment scales.

Having now looked at the assessment scale on the Military History Project, I wonder if Flypast actually merits a B-scale rating? (Perhaps some nice graphics or infoboxes needed - most popular aeroplanes used? timeline? etc? How would I know - I'm only a musician and City of London person...  :o) ) Please join discussion at Talk:Flypast

But in any event, thanks for your interest and initiative and sorry for my hasty error.

Best wishes. --FClef (talk) 21:25, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Missing man formation and US perspective

Incidentally, please check out missing man formation. It's fairly poor in the second half, although interesting. (I believe, with some heavy editing and rewriting - and I would be glad to do this, unless you want to take it on - that it could and possibly SHOULD be merged with flypast to broaden the US perspective. However a merge proposal might be a distraction during the current recommendations and I don't want to prejudice the GA proposal. But what do you think?

Please reply on this to my talk page. --FClef (talk) 11:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Flypast - thanks, and further thoughts

Dear RJASE1 - Thank you so much for adjusting the reference scale and making the recommendations of peer review and good article status that you have.

Perhaps, regarding US perspective, I might also point out that many Wikipedia articles have this and few objections seem to be raised. For example, I have worked on parade to broaden its perspective.

However, this is a minor point and I don't object to anything you've suggested. Many thanks for your goodwill toward flypast.Please put a watch on Talk:Flypast and reply there as I will now post further discussion there (unless I have a personal plaudit for you).  :-D --FClef (talk) 11:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Flypast - your B class rating has been undone by Looper!

Dear RJASE1 - Hi - I have just noticed that your kind B-class rating has ben undone by Looper. I will leave it to you to take any action that is needed here, although I may have a word with an admin myself. I consider the points and methods raised to be counter to the article's best interest. Please look here to see the note I have written him/her. I will be very grateful for any supportive action you can take. -- FClef (talk) 17:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


Re: Requested page move

Ok, done. Kirill Lokshin 02:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Flypast

Dear RJASE1,I'm removing my previous post because I have seen the helpful comments on the peer review page, having finally learned how to locate it. I've also had a couple of productive chats with Kirill Lokshin on both his talk page and mine. (In mitigation of my sensitivity, I've suffered four bereavements in the last three months...two uncles, a cousin, and the mum of a friend.) I will get on with implementing those things that I can do, which should help with the article balance. Thanks again for proposing it as a GA and placing it on the MilHistProj. --FClef (talk) 03:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

More on flypast before I go to bed (4 am in the UK!)

Dear RJASE1 - thanks for anything you are doing. I would just ask that you don't substantially reword the intro without maybe first posting it on my talk page. I feel that the Intro was one of the strongest points.

Naturally I'll be happy to incorporate and of corse will be happy to incorporate additional material but I would not like the tone and style substantially altered. I'm reasonably confident that I can incorporate anything you provide with suitable authority, flair and objectivity.

Along similar lines - the article leads with the UK stuff so please carefully insert your US additions in appropriate places.

I will also do some playing around with content, prose and organisation. Thanks and Regards. --FClef (talk) 04:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Good morning

Thanks for your encouraging message and I will point out that my name notwithstanding (cf. Bishonen who has also picked a masculine name), I am your UK sister.

Nick Dowling has indicated a way forward at Talk:Flypast, which I feel solves many matters, and I will be pursuing it ASAP. (Alas, I have exams on 31 Jan and 28 Feb!) Inevitably the article will retain its British flavour but it will be more inclusive and balanced and I think this is what you would like to see.

Thanks for your cooperation and material-gathering, which I await with interest. Referring to your earlier suggestions about title change, please don't. Appropriate redirections for US readers are present, and disambiguation pages exist. I know that you personally use the term flyover but please on this occasion stick with flypast. Certainly all the UK and international examples I have cited use the term flypast. Changing it would really take the heart out of the piece. I appreciate your forbearance in this regard. and many thanks again for your indulgence, cooperation and contributions. --FClef (talk) 10:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

do not feel like a jackass - feel like a
lovely red cat instead. I will revert to you when I have something written. Meanwhile would you go to your Peer Review page and assure the reviewers that we're taking Nick Dowling's p[oints on board and rewriting will get under way later this week? Thanks. --FClef (talk) 17:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Manhart

No problem. The description from the air force press release identifies her as "Michelle Crossmanhart" aka Michelle Manhart. That would be sufficient citation enough I believe. I noticed that the air force has deleted the image from their website since the controversy broke out, so kudos for getting that uploaded to wikipedia before it was lost forever.--Nobunaga24 02:16, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Moving Cdn Regiments

Please stop moving the names of Canadian regiments without consultation. Many Canadian Regiments have "The" as part of their official title, while some do not (Governor General's Foot Guards come to mind). WP:NCD also states "This also extends to some non-musical groups, and even beyond "official" naming, for example The Invincibles (which is the nickname of several sports teams).", i.e. keeping the definite article. In short, these are not uncontroversial moves. Please refer them to WP:RM and cite your rationales there. Thanks. --SigPig |SEND - OVER 22:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

HI. Thanks. Hope I didn't come across as overly abrupt or sanctimonious or whatnot. I assumed they were good-faith moves in accordance with Wiki guidelines, in order to improve the flow of the project, as opposed to someone trying to impose a particular viewpoint (I've had the honour -- er, honor -- of seeing a few of that color -- er, colour). I've outlined my rationale on the Military History project talk page, under where you so kindly copied my comments (thanks for saving me the task). --SigPig |SEND - OVER 00:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
You're quite welcome. I was in the CF for 20 years, so I had a good idea where to look. As for categories, if you want to put The Fubar Highlanders in a category about the Foo military, use a pipe: [[Category:Military of Foo|Fubar Highlanders, The]] will put your entry under "F". If you had an article, say, "List of Regiments of Foo" that you wanted separate, not under "R", do: [[Category:Military of Foo| ]] and it will put it before all the other entries. As for reverting, anything that was cut and pasted -- like the Saskatchewan Dragoons merge -- that can be reverted fairly easily. Anything done with the "move" command is going to require an administrator, to remove the block caused by the redirect. --SigPig |SEND - OVER 00:35, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Ooop! Sorry -- didn't mean to tell you how to suck eggs. I looked at where you indicated -- yeah, I don't know how to affect that either. It's too bad the automatic templates can't be tweaked to say ignore the first two words in an article title (obv they can ignore the first, or perhaps Talk: is a special reserved word that these templates automatically ignore). If it's a matter of ignoring a fixed number of words, perhaps the template can be tweaked in a particular article. I admit I have no idea how the system works. My current computer technical knowledge ranks somewhere between "Luddite" and "Ted Stevens". --SigPig |SEND - OVER 00:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Dropping in on a similar point - you've moved The Royal Scots to Royal Scots, quoting a naming convention; this says "keep unless 'the' is in the official name". In this case, it certainly is - see [1] among others for the various titles - would you mind if I moved it back? Shimgray | talk | 19:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
No problem. If in doubt, check the regiments.org lists, which are pretty accurate for names - it's usually a more modern thing, and occasionally renamings would pick up or drop off the article. Shimgray | talk | 21:38, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Fixed! Rollback is a wonderful tool :-) Shimgray | talk | 21:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

British East India Company

Hey, just to let you know, core "country" (and similar group) articles are generally not considered to be within the scope of WP:MILHIST directly; something like Military history of the British East India Company would be, but the main article itself doesn't have a substantial-enough amount of military content to warrant tagging it. Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 18:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Oops

Sorry about using your signature, I'm still learning here, so I didn't know how to warn vandals, so I just copied your warning, and didn't realize that I copied your signature. Thanks for the useful link. KingFace 18:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Erroneous move of The Scout Association of Hong Kong

Dear RJASE, you erroneously move the above article to a title without 'THE', although it is obviously the official title of the organization. Additionally you altered spurious redirects to it, changing it also to the wrong title. I already undid the move. Would you please be so kind as to correct all the wrong linking: a team of people had done this meticulously as the article in question was a FAC, now a Featured Article. And we sure wouldn't want to leave it with messy wikilinking to it, would we? Met vriendelijke groeten, Wim van Dorst (Talk) 22:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

confused

you removed my addition to the burmese python entry, for not citing a source, but at the botom of the addition was the copyrite notice, which is owned by myself. please could you explaing further, i am new to wikipedia, and thought that by adding my own care and information, as a expirianced keeper, that i may be adding to the help that users can gain on this site.

i also intended, in the near future to add other, simalar guides to some speics that i am also famiar with. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.45.72.65 (talk) 05:35, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

re:

I apologize for that. But that person was spamming the page and the only way I could get through to her was to say something right there lol EXXC3L 04:53, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

thank you, but I'm pretty sure it's all been resolved now. But if this comes up again I will definitely have to give that page a visit. EXXC3L 04:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I only deleted our comments because I just didn't see the point of keeping our argument in the discussion, when the problem has been resolved. If we leave it there, then it'll only be brought back up again. EXXC3L 16:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Bully (video game)

Actually, the anonymous editor was correct. The actual line in the movie is "This one time, at band camp, I stuck a flute up my pussy." It was a running gag that she'd tell all these innocent stories, starting out with "This one time, at band camp..." And at the climax of the movie, she drops that little bomb on the main character,--Vercalos 08:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

It would have been better to just remove everything after band camp, as the band camp part is the important one in that context.--Vercalos 03:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I left you a response over in my talk page (where you had responded to me)

Hi, I will try to do the cite's better, thank you for the link to the cite page. It wasn't clear to me where what style of cite should be used. I left you a response to the other issues over on this ip addresses talk page. Thanks for your help! 71.39.78.68 17:21, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Messages

Hey you keep leaving me messages that won't go away. Stop sending me the messages. 71.225.187.172 17:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

English language

  • I haven't exceeded 3RR nor do I plan to; this edit actually left the changes the anon put in, before it became obvious that the majority of the other editors disagreed with it. In any case, since the anon has violated 3RR, I reported him. JuJube 02:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
    • No prob, I'm actually glad you're on the ball about it. :) JuJube 02:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but

I am personally Insulted that you are arguing the validity of the article I wrote: Senator Zavala, He is a prominent figure in Texas politics, true his Ideas are not accepted by the general population its important that people who seek the information can find it. he is an promising young activist from fort worth he is moving to work with green peace in June, to say that I am vandalizing wikipedia is frankly very insulting209.30.193.252 05:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Timothy Dees

  • I believe the basic Timothy Dees article looked pretty sound to me with solid cites; somebody went in and vandalized the death section with conspiracy theories. Should the entire article be flagged as a hoax? I removed the "Conspiracies" section, so it looks like it's back to normal. Thanks! Dodgers7878
    • There seem to be links to a Faroe Islands Web site and a journal citation that some third party (neither you nor I) put down..?
  • I just came across this section on my article. Thanks for being so polite with the deletion process, and my sincerest apologies. Is there any way you would help me get into WP:BAD? Winkers6767 21:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

TWINKLE

Still having issues? There have been some changes now... — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 22:58, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Why removal?

Greetings, why did you remove the Taslima Nasrin link from the Ayaan Hirsi Ali article? (→Netscott) 23:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Nozomu Sahashi

You placed an expand tag on this article Nozomu Sahashi by reverting edits that I made, without adequate explanation. If you have reason why this page should be expanded and not deleted, please state it in the discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nozomu Sahashi (2nd nomination). So far this page has just seen bad faith edits, and there is no apparent justification for inclusion of such a bio. As far as can be seen, inclusion of said Biography is unencylcopedic in that his impact on the world is limited to one company, which is adequately covered in that article. Should we start including Biographies of all the CEOs of all companies, however limited the person's individual impact on the world? There needs to be some consistency. How is this person worthy of individual attention?--Shakujo 01:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Something I don't understand is why you voted for deletion, and then reverted to an expand tag? Why not remove the expand tag? Wouldn't it have been easier to clean-up the editing conflict by editing rather than reverting?--Shakujo 04:51, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Chipmunk

regarding your comment at my talk page: i was just about to revert the rest, i hadn't noticed them right away.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alpha Omicron (talk • contribs) 20:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I haven't been editing the english page lately

I gave up about two days ago. What edits are you talking about?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.28.148.185 (talk • contribs) 21:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Re Capella University

I am not involved in an edit war regarding Capella University - in fact, I reported the ongoing vandalism by a new anoymous user to Wikipedia and appropriately requested assistance. Once again, the anonymous user has resorted to name-calling and personal attacks. Shac1 02:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I believe your warning is vandalism. I appropriately posted a request to move things to the Capella talk page [[2]] and requested assistance from Wikipedia administrators on the incident board. Furthermore, I'm getting really tired of the personal attacks by individuals who appear to be employeed by Capella University. Shac1 02:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I would like to ask for your assistance in setting up the Request for Comment (RfC) pertaining to Capella University as the Capella user(s) who continue to delete valid criticism engage in personal attacks.Shac1 03:14, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Army Of Freshmen Page

Hey buddy, i'm just wondering if You requested that this page be deleted (if it was not you there please ignore me). if so, i'm confused as to why because wikipedia does not have a page on the army of freshmen as i have searched for it so i'm very confused as to why it was deleted —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Grim Reaper66 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

Thanks

Thanks for removing '23' from Lupin's list. I was concerned about false positives for that. Next time I'll watch a little longer. Tom Harrison Talk 18:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For your persistent anti-spam efforts and your quick and accurate reports at AIV, I award you this anti-vandalism barnstar. Keep up the great work! Kafziel Talk 15:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for reverting the edits on my user page! I was not even aware it had been vandalized! --Ozgod 05:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

AFD Margret Heater

I just signed into my account to see this article deleted, without having being able to respond. I had last logged in last week, so I know it hasn't even been 7 days and I did not see this as something to be brought to my attention. AFAIK, the article was salient to Wikipedia because at least three of the former members are and continue to be in notable, signed and International acts such as Jimmie's Chicken Shack, Bleed the Dream, and Dog Fashion Disco. Not only that, they had played more than once the infamous HFStival, one of the largest Summer Music Festivals in the United States. So if that does not meet the criteria, could you please explain to me where I fell short in meeting that, and not only that, but give me the arguments in which you felt it was relevant to delete. Thanks in advance for your reply. immunity 23:12, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I have responded with more evidence on my talk page. Please feel free to respond or move to the appropriate discussion page. talk to immunity 20:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Just wanted to say thank you for the help dealing with the guy that is vandalizing all of my pages.--Looper5920 03:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Page Protection

Thanks for the info on page protection requestion. It's never been clear to me whether a non-admin. could make it work or not. But I've figured that it was worth trying. In the future, I'll know where to go to request it. Thanks again. Hayford Peirce 17:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. It's probably not necessary anyway - the anon user who vandalizing has been blocked and the image he was using has been listed as a bad image and also proposed for deletion. RJASE1 Talk 17:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user subpages. — ERcheck (talk) 14:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

How do we warn people and block them?

I am speaking about vandalism to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laguna_Blanca_School —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bobvila2 (talk • contribs) 03:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

humor?

i understand that deterring vandalism is a noble cause. my question to you is, do you ever grin, chuckle or even laugh at some of the things you run across on wikipedia? some edits are obviously just blatantly cruel or idiotic, but others can contain some very intelligent humor (see "holy spirit"). anyways, just let me know.

p.s. what is the counter-african american unit all about? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dave oswald (talk • contribs) 07:45, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

Hello

YOU BLOODY FASCIST!--W00tz 20:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Whatev!--W00tz 20:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Hollows (Bleach)

I did not vandalise the article. I changed something that was wrong to something that is right. Make sure you do some research before flinging threats around. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mundaneman (talk • contribs) 21:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

No problem!

I have also reported that IP, so they're probably already blocked. Natalie 23:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Huh?

I'm not quite sure why you warned me about editing. I deleted some things which I felt were inappropriate. I did forget to log in, so maybe that is why. I had gone to the URL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryden, asuming that it would redirect to the Mark Ryden page. It didn't, and instead went to me to a page about something that is apparently called Ryden. Slightly interested, I read the short article, and noticed that it ended with some very inappropriate sentences. I tried to go to the history, but it said that there wasn't one (the link was red). Since it appeared that the vandalism was from the original page, I deleted that inappropriate part instead of reverting the page. It now looks like you must have deleted that page, because Ryden now does redirect to the Mark Ryden page. I'm sorry if this has caused any confusion, but I neither wrote that article nor the vandalism on it. P. Smedley 00:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Since when are you the judge of what is a proper citation and what is not? You asked me to cite the allegation, which I did. Than you deemed it unworthy, who gave you the power and judgement to make these decisions than leave threatening messages. Stop please.

Peter arbor

It's always a pleasant surprise to come back to check on some cleanup task and find that somebody has beaten me to it. Thanks! William Pietri 02:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Mary Wollstonecraft

Hello, I didn't request protection for this article. It's User:Joeldl. PeaceNT 04:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

PeaceNT has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:User:Cowman109/Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

No problem. PeaceNT 04:15, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

RE: Ejaculation Pic

The picture on the ejaculation articles really does need to go. I did not personlly remove it, but I can see that the age of the person may be under 18 and it is under controversey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:Ejaculation_sample.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ejaculation

APatcher 11:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt reply on this issue. I understand what you did now. I did not realize that contibutor was not part of the main discussion. Thanks for the resource. I am following that discussion page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by APatcher (talk • contribs) 16:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC).

Welcome to the Military history WikiProject!

Hi, and welcome to the Military history WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to military history.

A few features that you might find helpful:

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask one of the project coordinators, or any experienced member of the project, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! Kirill Lokshin 16:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Steve DeOssie

Just wanted to let you know that the page has been updated and you can view it at your leisure, hope you find this one more appropriate!--130.215.155.21 20:07, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

It looks better, but it still needs a citation for the statement that he claimed to have had sex with a 12-year old. I've left it for now with a 'fact' template, but that needs to be sourced or removed quickly. RJASE1 Talk 20:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks a lot for reverting my userpage too! Will 13:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)