Talk:River Shannon
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[edit] The Shannon is the longest river in...
Regarding the Shannon being the longest river in the British Isles... according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Great_Britain#Longest_rivers_in_the_United_Kingdom the Severn is longer. (Unsigned comment by 195.92.168.173)
- The Shannon is not in the United Kingdom, which is a different thing from the British Isles. See British Isles (terminology) --A bit iffy 20:39, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't quite follow.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.92.168.173 (talk • contribs)
"The Shannon is the longest river in the British Isles." The River Severn is in the "British Isles" and according to the facts provided in an article about the United Kingdom it is longer.
The river as far as Limerick pls the length of the estuary exceed the length of the River Severn. I am unsure how the length of the Severn was defined (with or without the estuary). The Shannon is always listed as the longest river in the British Isles. I hope this helpsDmccabe 01:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Dmccabe, are we in very slow edit war? I've just had a look at this talk page and I see that, bizarrely, I made my contribution to the debate exactly a year ago, to the minute! Anyway, should we include Iceland in your list of countries for which the Shannon is longer? I ask because the Þjórsá is a mere 230 km long! --A bit iffy 20:39, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if we are, let's call it a truce:) If I were solo author I'd pop it back to "longest river in the British Isles", but that seems to bring out more rapid edit wars. That wording would convey what I have in mind, but seems to cause offense. The list offends only on the basis of lousy writing! I'll stay out of it for a while (perhaps a year). By all means add Iceland or any other NW European island that makes sense. What would your preference be?Dmccabe And what timing! Did you wait for the clock to tick over before hitting save, or was it fairly random?Dmccabe 02:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- The problem with the term "British Isles" is the unwitting/unconscious implication that the whole isle of Ireland is in some way part of, or even belongs to, Britain (i.e., the UK). This introduces an unnecessary political dimension to the lengths of rivers - a purely geographical matter. The islands of Great Britain, Ireland and Iceland are quite separate and distinct from each other, and hence comparisons of their respective river lengths are not really meaningful. (I must admit I introduced Iceland because I was being slightly flippant, but it was also to illustrate my point.)--A bit iffy 22:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- As an aside re the timing, I happened to realise about 10 minutes earlier that it was the same date, and then about three minutes earlier I suddenly realised it was just almost the same time so I rushed in my typing and made it just in time, with maybe 20 seconds to spare. (In fact, it now makes me want to look up other edits I've done exactly a year ago, as I'd quite forgotten about my original one above. Also, as it looks like I'd slightly misunderstood the original point that 195.92.168.173 made, so I wonder what other surprises I might find one year on!)--A bit iffy 22:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if we are, let's call it a truce:) If I were solo author I'd pop it back to "longest river in the British Isles", but that seems to bring out more rapid edit wars. That wording would convey what I have in mind, but seems to cause offense. The list offends only on the basis of lousy writing! I'll stay out of it for a while (perhaps a year). By all means add Iceland or any other NW European island that makes sense. What would your preference be?Dmccabe And what timing! Did you wait for the clock to tick over before hitting save, or was it fairly random?Dmccabe 02:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Is there any European island with a longer river? I sincerely doubt it. How about "longest river on a European island?" Windyjarhead 16:06, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- An interesting point - I'm 99.9% sure you're right, though I'm having difficulty coming up with the evidence. If it is the case, and as Europe is regarded as a continent, then I think it might be meaningful to state something like this.--A bit iffy 22:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Miscellaneous
who's there ? what con you tell me about the shanon? how old is it ? what plants grow around it /
There are possibly some extra details in the Italian version - it:Shannon (fiume), if someone has time they should check it with babelfish and decrypt. zoney ♣ talk 01:19, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Map
The map looks good. I've resized to half size, although perhaps a new rendition with captions applied to a map of slightly larger than the current resize would be better. zoney ♣ talk 00:42, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
There should be a map highlighting its location in Ireland. The current map gives no context. —ScouterSig 22:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Source
As defined by the article the river does not have Dowra on it. Does the river not have its source at the Shannon Pot, County Cavan? Laurel Bush 16:59, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC).
Is it Shannon Pot or Cavan Pot? Last time I saw it the pool was signed "Shannon Pot". Laurel Bush 09:52, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC).
[edit] Cromwell?
I've heard the quote 'to Hell or to Connaught before (Junior Cert history yay!) but not attributed to Cromwell. I'm suspicious Indigenius 00:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
River Shannon is very long its 240 miles long WOW!!
[edit] River of County X
Should the Shannon appear in the River of category for each county through which it passes? It has a major impact on them all, though on the other hand, it does touch rather many. SeoR (talk) 14:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
