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[edit] Popular culture

I propose to move the contents of this section into its own article. I see it as largely trivial information detracting from the game itself. The monopoly article has done the same thing and is a FA. I plan on doing this in the next day or two as long as noone has any serious qualms. Usually I would just go ahead but there is a fair amount of mutual respect inherent to the maintainence in this article and I would hate to be the one to destroy that aura. b_cubed 21:15, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I would love to see this happen. Dan Slotman 00:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Our peer reviewers disliked the dump-article for popular culture references to list, while this is how our model article Monopoly handles its numerous references in popular culture. Clearly such a list won't prevent FA status, but I doubt that its inclusion strengthens the article's status. Is there any consensus on whether we would prefer to follow the monopoly path or the deletion path? Dan Slotman 23:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of official Risk game boards

I went ahead and created this article. It needs mega work and unfortunately I'm not too familiar with all the different variants. I've only briefly played 2210, and moderately played Lord of the Rings versions. If you know anything about them and can slide them into the template, and or include pictures of the boxes that would be great. Thanks. b_cubed 23:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dates/Years

Are all the years supposed to be linked? I began doing that, but I'll stop until someone clarifies. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 00:28, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Full dates should be linked to allow user preferences to work. Years by themselves should almost never be linked. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) —MJBurrage • TALK • 02:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Okay, thank you. :-) | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 11:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Area movement

Removed this sentence as it didn't make sense gramatically or where it was placed. I still think someone should rephrase it and put it in the article though. b_cubed 19:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

 *Risk is played in turns, and uses a form of area movement to regulate them.
I found a place to mention area movement, but it adds another comma-bounded phrase to a sentence that already has too many. Hopefully a better spot can eventually be found. Dan Slotman 19:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Standard setup

I have two small comments.

  • Right now, the exact number of starting units is specified for every number of players. I think this drifts toward too much detail; in other words, it is important that you start with units, but less important how many that is. This is especially true since the article gives little context as to whether the starting units are many or few in comparison to future reinforcements.
  • What are Army Cards? I'm sure this means RISK cards unless more recent editions differ from my own.

Thanks, Dan Slotman 20:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you're right about the army cards; I have a relativly new version, and they are called Risk cards. Should the number of units also be removed? I think we should wait and see if it can get through the GA nomination; Thunderforge will be nominating it soon. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 21:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Nomination

I nominate this article for Good Article status. I've got to say that you guys could have done it. I'm not some super-strict guy who wants to do everything himself. I just prefer to see them done period. Anyways, the nomination is up. Thunderforge 04:05, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Italics

I'm not so sure I like the italics. I think they need to stay for the french version (la conquete du monde) but it just looks awkward for the english RISK in my opinion. Additionally, the monopoly article doesn't italicise monopoly at all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by B cubed (talk • contribs) 19:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

It should actually. Every time the article name, or it's equivalent, is mentioned, it's italicized. Shouldn't RISK be lower case though? It might look better. | AndonicO Talk · Sign Here 21:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA evaluation

What is a good article? Let's go down the list of good article attributes and see if this article qualifies...

1. It is well written. In this respect:

(a) it has compelling prose, and is readily comprehensible to non-specialist readers;
I'm not sure about compelling, but yes it is readily comprehensible to non-specialist readers PASS
(b) it follows a logical structure, introducing the topic and then grouping together its coverage of related aspects; where appropriate, it contains a succinct lead section summarising the topic, and the remaining text is organised into a system of hierarchical sections (particularly for longer articles);
PASS
(c) It generally complies with the Wikipedia Manual of style; specifically, it follows the Article lead guideline, Article layout guideline, Jargon guideline, Words to avoid using guideline, How to write about Fiction guideline, and List incorporation.

PASS

(d) necessary technical terms or jargon are briefly explained in the article itself, or an active link is provided.

PASS

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. In this respect:

(a) it provides references to any and all sources used for its material;
It would nice to see some references to a games encyclopedia or reference book, but overall PASS.
(b) the citation of its sources is essential, and while the use of inline citations are not mandatory, they are highly desirable, in particular for longer articles. Unambiguous citations of reliable sources are necessary for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged.[1] Articles whose topics fall under the guideline on scientific citations should adhere to the guideline.
PASS
(c) sources should be selected in accordance with the guidelines for reliable sources;
The reliability of some of the sources is challengable, but I think it might be impossible to find better sources for some of the info. PASS
(d) it contains no elements of original research.

PASS

3. It is broad in its coverage. In this respect :

(a) it addresses all major aspects of the topic (this requirement is slightly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required by WP:FAC, and allows shorter articles and broad overviews of large topics to be listed);
Could maybe expand into criticle comparison with similar games. Overall, PASS
(b) it stays focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary details (no non-notable trivia).
Trivia has been moved to a separate page PASS

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy. In this respect:

(a) viewpoints are represented fairly and without bias;
PASS
(b) all significant points of view are fairly presented, but not asserted, particularly where there are or have been conflicting views on the topic.
PASS

5. It is stable, i.e. it does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. This does not apply to vandalism and protection or semi-protection as a result of vandalism, or proposals to split/merge the article content.

Not exactly stable but no conflict PASS

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic. In this respect:

(a) the images are tagged and have succinct and descriptive captions;
PASS
(b) a lack of images does not in itself prevent an article from achieving Good Article status.
(c) any non-free images have a fair use rationale

Looks good! I'll promote it. ike9898 19:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dice Probablities

Hey guy's just a head's up, I'm removing the dice probablity table. On the peer review, Plek said it had to go. He and Trebor said Wikipedia is not an instruction manual, so I'm removing it. I think these guys know a thing or two about FAs, so it might be good to listen.--Clyde (talk) 23:10, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

If you get the chance you should check out the peer review. Our reviewers have provided excellent suggestions. Dan Slotman 01:44, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I knew it would have to go eventually. | AndonicO Talk · Sign Here 09:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
  • I'd like to re-open the discussion on this point. That table is not an instruction manual. It does not tell anyone how to roll the dice or how to win the game. It does not tell how many artmies you need in attacking, when to turn in your Risk cards, it is not a strategy manual. It is factual informaiton about the game and how the game works. For reference, the table is:
Probabilities of winning a dice roll in Risk
(various dice combinations)[2]		 Attacker
one die two dice three dice
Defender one
die		 Attacker wins 15/36 = 41.67% 125/216 = 57.87% 855/1296 = 65.97%
Defender wins 21/36 = 58.33% 91/216 = 42.13% 441/1296 = 34.03%
two
dice		 Attacker wins 55/216 = 25.46% 295/1296 = 22.76% 2890/7776 = 37.17%
Defender wins 161/216 = 74.54% 581/1296 = 44.83% 2275/7776 = 29.26%
Both win one n/a 420/1296 = 32.41% 2611/7776 = 33.58%

I believe it should be added back to the article. It is clearly not outside the scope of what Wikipedia is supposed to be, and it is valuable information for the reader. Johntex\talk 15:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure that it is needed. Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love this chart. There is something extremely pleasing to be able to see the dice probabilities. However, I think it would be more fitting to merely leave the chart out and sum up what it shows. b_cubed 01:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

This table should be put back up. It's giving legitamit facts about the game and this is what wikipedia is supose to give out. You can't take in down just becuase of one dumbass' opinion without discussing it first. This chart is a great tool for people such as myself, who are programing a recreation of risk.

As I count them, the votes were something like 3 for removal to 3 for inclusion (including you). Secondly, please assume good faith and refrain from personal attacks. Thirdly, if you are implementing your own version of risk, you should implement dice rolling, rather than scaling a random number into the win/lose percentages or something equally ridiculous. (I.e. the chart shouldn't matter to your program—your program's output will automatically match the chart over many runs if it implements dice rolling correctly.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dslotman (talk • contribs) 20:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC).
Three to three is not a consensus for removal. It isn't even a majority for removal. Therefore, according to Wikipedia rules, the table should stay. So I've added it back in, but in the "Strategy" section. Val42 20:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I suppose my main problem is that the chart doesn't explain anything. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't charts included in articles to help explain something significant (or at least a difficult concept to grasp)? In this particular article it is merely thrown in and doesn't really add anything to the article except for a neat chart to look at. Thus, I don't really think it belongs. I looked at the link that the chart came from and the person who created it didn't make any substancial conclusions from it. Feel free to check it out: chart b_cubed 22:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I haven't given an opinion on this previously, but I think the table should be removed. First, for new players, I don't think the table clarifies how dice rolling works. Second, the table sort of "stands alone" in the article now—it doesn't have enough context for interpretation. Third, an advanced player will have a good idea what these numbers are&mdashthere are no surprises. Fourth, pragmatically speaking, a decision to attack in an individual case is very rarely based on the odds. People don't say, "I'd attack, but I only have a 49.3% chance of success." Fifth and finally, a link to the chart will be enough for people who want to pursue this sort of Risk knowledge. Thanks, Dan Slotman 23:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Since the problem with the table seems to be that there is no text explaining the table, I've added an explanation for people new to the game. As has been stated above, this isn't needed for the experienced players. Val42 03:53, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

As someone who came to this article out of an interest to the game I greatly appreciated seeing the probablity table and thought that it was very cool that someone actually put it in. It seems to me to be very appropriate to the article and an integral part of the game - especially if one wants to enter into an academic account of the game. Jklsc 20:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Just for fun, I've created this RISK calculator [1] Should I add it to the page? --Wng z3r0 07:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

The table is fine, but I think the rest of the Strategy section up to the bit on alliances needs to go - remember folks, Wikipedia is not a strategy guide. L337 kybldmstr 00:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The table is illustrative so should stay. I added a sentence and references to technical articles which studied the probabilities of winning territories for people with a taste for statistics, which seem to complement the Hasbro strategy guides. Markjoeling (talk) 04:47, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stub sections

I'm not really sure how much I like just leaving blank sections with a stub marker. I think they should be deleted but I think it will only be fair to wait a week and see if anything comes of them. If nothing is added after a week I propose we delete them. Additionally, in regards to the stub in the history section--I spent many many hours poring over web pages via google and that is all the information I got. Personally, I really don't consider that section to be a stub due to the lack of information available. If someone has a book on RISK with historical information, now that would be a different story. b_cubed 23:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree that it is ugly and not likely to be recitified soon. Also, by convention we don't let a lot of 'placeholders' like this around. If the information turn up it can be added, but the article doesn't have to look like a construction site in the meantime. ike9898 03:10, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
I added them, and I am personally removing them, but the peer review people made it pretty clear that they think the article is "a paraphrase of the manual." They also said the history needs to be expanded, but you say that isn't happpening, so maybe adding these sections at least lets you know that other people think more content is needed. I'm not sure how that's going to happen since I'm trying to do two peer reviews, and it sounds like you've exhausted all your resources.--Clyde (talk) 02:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

References, refs, refs, refs, refs, refs, refs, refs, refs, etc...

What i am trying to get at is that if possible, there needs to be some references to this article if it wants to go any stage further. :) Simply south 14:07, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I've seen some FAs with one reference every one or two sentences. :-O | AndonicO Talk · Sign Here 22:25, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of licensed Risk games

Here is a workspace for a page about all the various offshoots of Risk; once it is complete we can create an article for it. This is similar to what Monopoly has done for their derivative games. Dan Slotman 04:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Popular Culture?

In the peer review, User:Plek said in answer to my question whether to delete the pop cult section:

I would suggest asking yourself the question: "Is there a better, more interesting way to illustrate the popularity of XXX than showing an endless list of books/movies/TV shows in which XXX is mentioned?" If the answer is "yes", than write about it in brilliant prose. If "no", then delete the section altogether. Said endless lists are just magnets for trivial, dull, unverifiable and non-notable edits, that really add nothing of value to the subject (i.e. who cares if Risk was played by this-and-this character in that-and-that TV show?). --Plek 19:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll change it for now to prose, but suggest it's deletion. | AndonicO Talk · Sign Here 13:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, it's already prose, I was confused with the article, which should, IMHO, be deleted as well. | AndonicO Talk · Sign Here 13:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Risk_box.jpg

I took a picture of the box. Should it should go at the top, and the other moved down, or go in the "Official board games" section? · AndonicO Talk 16:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References to the board game Risk in popular culture up for deletion

Hey, I was wondering if any of you could speak on behalf of keeping the Risk in pop culture article alive. It is important that it is not deleted otherwise the trivia will creep back into the main article and it will be impossible to make this article reach FA status; if not jeopardize the GA status of this article. Check out the argument here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/References to the board game Risk in popular culture b_cubed 04:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Popular culture

I decided that Seinfeld should be the quote unquote representative pop culture reference. A)The episode more or less focuses on a game of Risk B)It was an emmy award winning sitcom, hence it has some level of fame (for lack of a better word, notoriety?). I removed the R.E.M. reference because as far as I could see it only mentioned Risk in passing. Furthermore I'm not sure as many people are as familiar with R.E.M. as there are people who are familiar with Seinfeld. b_cubed 05:25, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd argue for the inclusion of the R.E.M. reference, though not passionately. --Guinnog 06:10, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RISKTOC

I removed this because after googling it I only came up with 315 results. I'm not sure that is notable enough to be included. Any thoughts? b_cubed 05:25, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it should be there. It is the only officially sanctioned Risk tournament in the world. Their google page rank is 4, which is significant. --Black001 23:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A drive for FA

I would like to submit this article to another peer review in a week or two. After that I would like to submit this article for FA status. However, before this can happen the official board games section needs work. As far as I know, that's the only section that really needs serious attention. Feel free to add any information to the main page or on this workspace, which I plan to have as a separate article once it is complete. Thanks b_cubed 19:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Computer implementations and video games

I added the commodore 64 game from 1988 to this section and a reference. I have it and I played it in 1988 (before the 1989 Mac version which was mentioned). I also added a reference to a site that backs this up. Jklsc 21:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Feel free to help out in any other way, we can always use more references, esp. if we want to get this article FA status. b_cubed 21:30, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture?

If I remember correctly this famous painting was on at least one version's box. If so could we include it in the article?

Napoleon
Napoleon
I just googled some of the box covers and as far as I can tell the painting of Napoleon crossing the Alps was never on a Risk box cover. However, there are plenty of box-covers with a cavalry unit whose horse is rearing just as in the picture of Napoleon. I'm not sure if any comparison was intended as that appears to me to be a fairly common thing to do artistically with riders on horses. b_cubed 05:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Thinking about it some more last night, I think you are right. Seeing the painting always reminds me of Risk however. :-) Steve Dufour 16:17, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Any one know Italian?

Apparently there is a book by the title of La storia di risiko (2002) by Roberto Convenevole and Francesco Bottone about the history of Risk. From what I could tell, I'm pretty sure it's 194 pages long. I would buy it but I don't know Italian. I searched for an English equivalent but couldn't find one. Just thought I'd throw that out there. b_cubed 05:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Section 4.3-Fortifying--suggest update to include new rules

Newer rules (Risk rulebook-copyright 2003 & hasbro.com) allow moving of troops from one territory to any 'connected' territory (not just adjacent territories). A territory is considered 'connected' if you can trace a path to it through areas under your control.

Since I am new to Wikipedia I am submitting this to the discussion page rather than editing the article myself. --Rob 65.100.203.88 12:55, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, first off, welcome to Wikipedia. As far as I know that's under the additional "Expert" rules for more advanced play. I just looked over our section that deals with it and althought we have it already it isn't too terribly clear about the fortification rule you were talking about. I plan on clearing it up in the next day or two but for now I was just wondering in the 2003 rulebook, does it only mention altering the value of risk card sets, the fortification rule, and limiting armies per territory or are any other ones included? Thanks. b_cubed 16:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New picture?

I created a more accurate game refrence, but I don't know if it is good enough? Riskgamenut 17:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it's a nice map. My only problem with it is the fact that it is too difficult to read the names of countries. Perhaps you could substitute the same numbers as the current picture? b_cubed 02:05, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Risk logo.png

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[edit] Profanity in Children's game

My Izzard citation was just modified to replace my "couldn't <expletive> hold it" with the redacted word. I intentionally left that out as Risk, being a game popular with young children, doesn't need the profanity connected to it. (Plus you got the fun link to Wikipedia's "expletive" page.) I can't see how this is a useful addition and will revert, pending some legitimate argument in favor of including the profanity.Czrisher 21:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Based on general policy, Wikipedia is not censored. Specifically, Wikipedia:Profanity makes it clear that either we include an accurate quote, or nothing at all. Given the subject, that means that as editors we must weigh the importance of the quote to the subject against any other appropriate concerns, such as the expected audience for the article. Since this article is about a game commonly played by children, and the quote does not add anything especially important about the subject (that last bit being my editorial judgment), I will remove the quote. If others believe that the quote should stay, they are free to restore it, but not in an bowdlerized form. —MJBurrage • TALK • 21:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1980s Risk Peices?

I own a copy of a 1980's boards, and could take a picture with the I III V and X lined up next to each other. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Shroud (talk • contribs) 03:27 29 June 2007 (UTC).

I would say yes, but I thought the roman numeral pieces were from an earlier board. Be sure to check the copyright date on the box before posting. (and sign your comments with 4 tildes ~) Killeryugi 00:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Violence

I've read that Risk is the eighth leading cause of domestic violence in the US. This may be worth mentioning in the article. 12va34 03:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Uh...right. If you have an intelligent comment to make with a legitimate source, please feel free. Otherwise, stick to your blog. Duckingham 18:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Surrendering

Risk version 1999: Rules state you have unlimited ability of placing as many troops as you can on one country.

At the start of the game a player (let's call them blue) therefore places one troop on each of the countries stated by the RISK cards selected and continues to place the rest of the troops all on one country where he/she knows she/he will be heavily attacked (by let's say yellow). Assuming the game begins and the first player (yellow) does attack the blue player and conquers the country. The blue player then has only one troop on the rest of the countries, when the blues turn comes there cannot be a roll of dice as not one country has enough troops therefore do they "miss a turn"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.7.37.179 (talk) 16:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

However, at the beginning of each turn, a player gets new armies. The minimum that you will receive is three armies. Unless you put them where they are surrounded by your own forces, you will be able to attack someone. — Val42 04:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Escalation of reinforcements of Risk Card armies

Hi guys, I've just read my old old old rule book, and I'm not having no joy on this article neither. Say if u have 2 players, and player 1 is the 1st person to trade his cards in he gets 2 armies right? If player 2 is the next person to trade in his cards, does he get 4 armies or 2, like player 1 did? Hope you guys understand me Ryan4314 (talk) 08:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

According to my rulebook (1990), the first set of reinforcements gives 4, and then each set increases the number by 2 up to 12, then the sixth set yields 15, and every subsequent set gives 5 more (so the order is 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 20, 25, etc.) TSMagus (talk) 00:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The intro

the beginning says the aim is to conquer the world but you get mission cards and you win once you complete your mission. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.216.35 (talk) 13:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

That's the default goal. With the newest games, you can get mission cards. However, this should be updated. — Val42 (talk) 00:07, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Continent Advantages and Disadvantages

This section is poorly written, and I'm not sure whether it really is necessary. Most of it seems like personal opinion and should be revised or possibly deleted? It could be helpful to new players, maybe a reference from an official strategy guide? Shakawkaw (talk) 01:10, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I decided to remove it as OR. bibliomaniac15 01:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Castle Risk

I'll first off say that I'm not very talented at editing Wikipedia, but I would like to help some. I own a gameboard released in 1990 that is both Risk and Castle Risk (Risk map on one side of the board, Castle Risk on the other side). I have all the plastic triangles and stars, as well as the rulebooks for each (1990 revisions), and I'd love to supply information or photographs if anyone is interested in them. (TSMagus (talk) 23:49, 23 January 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Unofficial Computer and Video Game Versions

Some time ago, I deleted a large part of the section of Computer and Video Game Versions because it had degenerated into a big advertisement to lots of different unofficial online and computer game versions. I deleted them all for this reason and now I'm starting to see some creep back in again. Personally, my opinion is that only official versions should be mentioned in this article along with a simple statement that many unofficial versions exist. It is neither practical nor helpful to list every single unofficial implementation and there's no real reason to include some over others. So again, I feel that the best way to solve the problem is only to list official versions and refrain from listing any unofficial ones. What do others think? Thunderforge (talk) 21:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree, it should be removed. · AndonicO Hail! 21:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redeployment

In the 1999 Edition´s rules about redeployment, say: "To fortify your position, move as many armies as you´d like from one (and only one) of your territories into one (and only one) of your adjacent territories." I know too about the option of redeployment on non-adjacent territories if exist a continuous way. Now, my question is: How many redeployments can I make in a turn? In my opinion, it is only one redeploy per turn, That is correct?

Greetings! Demonaire Rai 20/04/2008 13:37 UTC-5

One, and only one. At the end of your turn. I believe this is covered in the article. ~~ DaRkAgE7 (talk) 18:40, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_%28game%29#Fortifying