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Contents 1 deleted 2 Van 3 Novel? 4 Kaatskill Cove 5 Neutral POV? 6 "Modern-day Parallel of Rip van Winkle" 7 Van (Dutch) capitalised? 8 65.0.12.171 00:13, 28 September 2007 (UTC) 9 purpose of some sections 10 Origin of name "Van Winkle"

[edit] deleted

I deleted the part about references to recent music, as it was in an irrelvant section (adaptation) and were relatively insignificant (i.e. more important references have been left out)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.98.72.191 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Van

All the print editions of this story that I have seen spell the name Rip Van Winkle with a capital "V", whether using the full name or just referring to the character as "Van Winkle." Any objection to my changing the title of this article? — Walloon 23:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Novel?

Who added this article to the "WikiProjectNovels"? "Rip Van Winkle" is a short story, not a novel. — Walloon 21:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

The novel project should be called "literature" as they include just about everything that is literature as a novel. -- Stbalbach 13:45, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Hardly, Novels and Novellas ( with associated series and characters) only.

No Graphic novels

No Manga

No Light novels

No Plays

No poetry

No short stories

No mythology - not an exhaustive list of exclusions! :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 08:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I've added this back to the Novels Project under the "Short Story Task Force" banner. I think that makes sense, right? -Midnightdreary 23:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kaatskill Cove

Regarding this recent edit[1] which removed any mention of specific place names. While it may be true that the book itself does not mention specific place names, has there been subsequent scholarship, or even direct quotes from Irving himself, that he placed the story in a specific town and location? -- Stbalbach 15:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

So i added the polish guy thing but i dont really know the syntax for references. hopefully it works. the URL is in the source if it doesn't so maybe someone can fix it

[edit] Neutral POV?

Seriously, "communism and all its ill effects" isn't really NPOV. What about just deleting "and all its ill effects", or at least replacing "ill effects" with something else. I'm not trying to start at discussion on the Soviet regime or anything, but I believe that it should be edited, in order to keep a NPOV.

ElChrissos 23:59, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Modern-day Parallel of Rip van Winkle"

This section has nothing to do with the story and should be deleted. These tidbits of info pop up a lot on wiki pages just when they're in news.

Madmotet 23:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Or one could simply link to the Wikipedia article Jan Grzebski... Geke 00:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Van (Dutch) capitalised?

Why is the van capitalised? According to the Van (Dutch) article the van is supposed to be in lower case. --BiT 10:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Because Rip's name probably changed after settling in New York. And not only this capital. In Dutch his name would be Winkel, not Winkle. Cuon 09:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 65.0.12.171 00:13, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

what was change before and after Rip went to sleep

[edit] purpose of some sections

I can't see what the allusions or "references to actual history" has to do with understanding this subject. They seem to be nothing more than glorified trivia sections.--Crossmr (talk) 23:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of name "Van Winkle"

There really isn't enough evidence to show that Irving chose the name "Van Winkle" because it was the name of his New York publisher. The original story was completed (at the home of Irving's brother-in-law in England) well before Irving had any idea of going to print, much less having a particular publisher in mind. In this particular case, Irving's choice of publisher owes more to serendipity than homage. Hence, I've removed that particular sentence.--Federalistpapers (talk) 15:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)