Talk:Rioja (wine)

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• In the process of heavy editing. Charleenmerced ^Talk 22:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)Charleenmerced

[edit] History

I've plunged into this section, fixed some stuff and have some questions and points to make:

• Need a source for the document in 873

• It would be nice to provide a *decent* translation of Gonzalo de Berceo's verse which was written in mediaeval form of Spanish, parts of which I don't fully understand:

"quiero fer una prosa en román paldrino,

en cula suele el pueblo fablar con su vezino,

ca non so ten letrado por fer otro latino

bien valdrá, como creo, un vaso de bon vino."

("Vida de Santo Domingo de Silos" s.XIII)

horribly translated elsewhere as:

"I want to write a prose in the vulgar romance

that the populace use to address their neighbours,

as I am not learned enough to write in a different Latin

I trust it will still merit a glass of good wine."

("Miracles of Our Lady", 13th century)

• "King Sancho de Navarra legally recognizes the Rioja wine in the year 1102." -

revised this to 'the King' because of conflicts over the date/monarch - Wiki refs at 1102 clearly state the monarch Peter as being in power, his father, 'Sancho de Navarra y Aragon' having died some years earlier. However multiple web refs state Sancho to be the 'founder' in this year. Which is correct?

• "In 1560, harvesters from Longares chose a symbol to represent the quality of the wines." - source for this? What was the symbol? --mikaul 11:07, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of name

The soil here is clay based with a high concentration of chalk and iron (which provides the redness in the soil that may be responsible for the region's name Rioja meaning red).[5]

I think this is very doubtful. As it even says in the introduction to the article Rioja most likely comes from Rio Oja (River Oja). I'll investigate and let you all know what I come up with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BodegasAmbite (talk • contribs) 15:08, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

A unique DO regulation stipulates that the cost of the grapes used to make Rioja must exceed by at least 200% the national average of wine grapes used in all Spanish wines.[1]

Agne has asked me to check this 'fact' out too. --BodegasAmbite 15:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thoughts on assessment

This one seems like more of a B than not, but some extra opinions are welcome. The lead could use some beefing up per WP:LEAD and the individual wine regions seems a little skimpy. I also wonder how much more info could go into the Wineries & Culture section. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 00:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)