Talk:Rio de Janeiro (state)

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[edit] Rename to "Rio de Janeiro"

Hi, I'm the co-founder of the project "Subdivisões do Brasil" (Brazilian subdivisions) at Portuguese Wikipedia and the author of more than 5.000 Brazilian location maps (almost all used here). I would like to know why the Brazilian states aticles don't have a higher priority than their respective capitals. Sorry but my capacity to write in English is very limited. What I'm trying to say is: Rio de Janeiro concerns the City of Rio de Janeiro and Rio de Janeiro (state) the state. The same occours with São Paulo (city) and São Paulo (state). I really don't understand why this is the convention and why the states of the USA are different. e.g. New York for the state and New York City for the city / Washington for the state and Washington, D.C. for the city.

I'm proposing that we move "Rio de Janeiro" to "Rio de Janeiro City" and "Rio de Janeiro (state)" to "Rio de Janeiro". Of course, disambiguation notes will be necessary as they are in both Washington and New York.

Raphael.lorenzeto 01:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Oppose. This would violate the principle of least surprise. When someone types in Rio they expect to get the city, not the state. That is also where the links will all point so we want them to go to the correct article. Rmhermen 15:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
This principle of least surprise doesn't apply to Washington and New York? When someone types Washington or New York, they aren't expecting to get the U.S. capital and the big apple? I noticed that exists only two exceptions for naming conventions of brazilian settlements (check talk): "Rio de Janeiro" and "São Paulo". The principle of least surprise applies only to these two cities? The links can be corrected as the time goes. Raphael.lorenzeto 15:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Answered at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements)#Convention for Brazil. --cesarb 00:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I would like to suggest that this discussion be moved to Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements)#Convention for Brazil, since the convention should be the same for both Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo, and thus it's better to discuss it at a centralized location. --cesarb 00:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beautiful

Like this Rio seems amazing! Where are the favelas and other issues? Pfff —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.226.230.37 (talk) 19:31, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

First, I should note that this article is about the State of Rio de Janeiro, not the city — as in New York City and the State of New York in the US. The first is within the latter, which is a larger political entity.
Now, assuming you are referring to the images used, note that the images that we can use on Wikipedia are limited by Copyrights. We can only use free material or images that are somehow usable under Fair Use provisions. If you have a free, usable image of a favela and other "issue"-related subjects referring to the State of Rio de Janeiro, consider registering and uploading them at the Wikimedia Commons, which is the common repository of free images for all Wikimedia projects (of which Wikipedia is a part). Thank you for taking an interest. Regards, Redux 23:35, 28 October 2007 (UTC)