Talk:Right of revolution

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While not exactly a right of revolution, Germany also has a "when all else fails" provision in Article 20 Paragraph 4 of its constitution:

All Germans shall have the right to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order, if no other remedy is available.

The Constitution of Greece also has a similar clause, called the "Final Provision" (Greek: Ακροτελεύτιο άρθρο):

Observance of the constitution is entrusted to the patriotism70.150.94.194 22:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC) of the Greeks who shall have the right and the duty to resist by all possible means against anyone who attempts the violent abolition of the Constitution.[1]

Erm. How is this close to a right to revolution? It's almost the opposite. 192.75.48.150 14:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Good work. Too bad that stuff wasn't removed earlier. Dave Runger^(t)⁄_(c) 18:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello what about magna carta. There is a similar provision there.70.150.94.194 22:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tennessee Constitution

only New Hampshire's guarantees its citizens the right to rebellion, in Article 10 of the constitution's bill of rights:

Whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may, and of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new government. The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.

Tennessee Constitution, Article I, § 2: "That government being instituted for the common benefit, the doctrine of non-resistance against arbitrary power and oppression is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind."

Okay, we're skipping § 1, which says:

That all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; for the advancement of those ends they have at all times, an unalienable and indefeasible right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper.

Somebody tell me...how is that not a right of revolution, just as strong as that in the N.H. Constitution? -- Calion | Talk 00:58, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Looks like you are right. I got that fact about New Hampshire being the only state guaranteeing a right to revolution from the Free State Project's website (I think) and added it to the article, but the claim certainly appears to be false. I was foolish to trust that source, it would appear. Thanks for catching the error. I have removed the offending bit about N.H. being the only state with a right to revolution in its constitution.

[edit] Germany

The "Right of revolution" only quoted US examples. I have added a quote from the German constitution. Hope it fits. I think we should also add other international examples. --Schoelle 07:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh - stupid me - should have read this talk page better, first ... sorry for the noise, the problem is that the German page for "Widerstandsrecht" (right to resist) links to this page, which is obviously wrong. --Schoelle 07:46, 5 June 2007 (UTC)