Talk:Rienzi/Comments

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Lower end of Start class. Suggested improvements:

  • More background information, especially about different versions
  • More performance history
  • A synopsis needs to be included in the article - an external link to one is unsatisfactory
  • Notable arias, etc (e.g. Rienzi's Prayer) need to be shown, preferably within the synopsis
  • More about the music and critical appreciation of the opera
  • At least one illustration is needed
  • Inline references from more sources are needed

--GuillaumeTell 21:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Lower end of Start class (34 points) Suggested improvements as GuillaumeTell above.

  • Main requirement is obviously the synopsis.
  • Separate biographical articles on the major singers would help fill in the background. (At the moment there is only one.)
  • Barry Millington's article in Grove has useful information.
  • There is a famous painting of Rienzi (the opera) by Baron von Leyser which would be good to have.

-- Kleinzach 00:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Assorted hands have worked this article into something that provides the basic information some readers will find useful. The strengths of the article are the full list of roles and initial performers and the recordings list which both receive marks appropriate to higher grade articles. However, it would be useful to distinguish more clearly recordings of the opera and of just the overture and to provide links to those performers on recordings who have or should have articles. I agree with the comments by the reviewers above, but would add that musical illustrations (providing they are in line with Wikipedia's policy on sound samples) would be most useful as few people will have heard extracts of the opera. Also, I wish to emphasise the value of inline referencing at an early stage of an article's life. When we eventually try to get this article to Good Article grade, we will need to know which facts are sourced from where.

The marking scheme indicates where points can most easilly be picked up. Anything below the equivalent of 30% is weaker than the start class grading of the overall article. Background 3/15; Performance history 7/15; List of roles 5/5; Synopsis 3/15; Notable Arias 0/5; Discussion of Music/critical appreciation 2/15; Recordings 7/10; Illustrations 0/10; Notes/Sources/Links 5/15; Total 32/100 Start class.--Peter cohen 13:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)