User talk:Richard Rundle

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Welcome!

Hello, Richard Rundle, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] FCHD

Are you the guy behind the FCHD? If so thank you! A wonderful website! If not - ah well - but hope you enjoy wikipedia! Robdurbar 17:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's me. Thanks for the kind words. I certainly do enjoy Wikipedia - following the "Random article" link has lost me countless hours surfing the site! fchd 15:52, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Richard - I've just created a new template to standardise links to the FCHD, with the idea being that it makes it easy to change all such links when the site moves in the summer. One thing just occurred to me though - will the new site have the same structure as the old one (e.g. .../LIVERPOO.HTM for Liverpool etc.)? This would affect how easy it is to change all the links over. Cheers — sjorford++ 12:50, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, my intention is for everything other than the domain name to stay exactly the same. The club file names will still be 8.3 capital letters, and miscellaneous files (cups, leagues, indexes etc.) will be in lower case. Club file names very rarely change, only if I find the need to differentiate between two clubs of the same name for either different periods of operation or in different geographical areas. I'm just pleased that the site is useful enough to be linked from so many different places. - fchd 16:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Excellent, thanks. — sjorford++ 08:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Midland League

Hi Richard

As per your message on the Midland Football League talk page, I have created a new article for the Staffs County Senior League and have put a "holding message" on the MFL page. Hope this is OK..... ChrisTheDude 07:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

That's great. I have put in a basic history article, and I'll tidy up, sort out all the links and maybe put in a list of champions over the next day or two. - fchd 12:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Q K Southampton

Hello! I hope you are feeling fine. As for the above-mentioned article, I have corrected this and made the Queen's Keep Southampton F.C. article as the redirect page (just in case users type in the full wordings). I had no idea that senior leagues do not wish to be associated with clubs that look like "pub teams". In any case, I am ignorant of British working-class culture and attitudes and I am going to take your word for it. But, if in the future, any other user opposes to this name and prefers to see the full title of the article in question, I would have to take his/her views under consideration as well. However, in the meantime, let us not get too worried about this and I wish to thank you for sharing with me on this piece of information. --Siva1979Talk to me 14:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation pages

Richard, you might like to read WP:MOSDAB to see how disambiguation pages are formatted, and why. This relates to your changes to Holsworthy. --Scott Davis Talk 08:52, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

OK - my mistake. Seems barmy, but if that's the way things should be done, that's fine by me. Should, therefore, the seperate link to Devon be removed as Holsworthy, Devon, Devon looks just wrong? - fchd 09:57, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
You're right - I've done it. The style guide makes sense when you remember that in general, nothing should link to the disambig page. The purpose of the disambig page is to help readers and editors to quickly find the article they meant to find, not to define the terms. When someone finds a disambig page, they know what they are looking for (either from following a link that should be fixed, or as the result of a search). Not having piped links makes it quicker and easier to copy the name to go back and fix the ambiguous link, and helps the reader to identify and remember the name of the article they really wanted. --Scott Davis Talk 13:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Famous fans

Regarding your message on the List of famous people who are fans of Chelsea FC AFD page. My intention was not to create a list of famous fans (I hate those as well) but simply to include three or four provable ones in a sentence in the Trivia section. But I've since thought better of it. The article attracts enough nonsense as it is. Regards. SteveO 15:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE:1871-72 in English football et al.

Hello! Thank You for telling me about this. I will make the necessary adjustments soon. --Siva1979Talk to me 14:42, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Constituencies in UK election

Richard - thanks for the help on the Torridge line =) As you can see there are lots of gaps, so any other help you can give would be fantastic doktorb wordsdeeds 11:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pages for minor leagues / divisions

I am putting together a revised page for the Anglian Combination that will have all the current members, plus division winners for each of the 42 completed seasons on it - fchd 19:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Hertfordshire Leagues

Well, thank you for telling me about this error. I am also aware that some of the articles on the other leagues which I have created contains similiar errors as well. It is also my intention to correct these errors in the near future once I have the necessary information about them. I will also be doing some corrections and expansion on the table as well. However, at least now, all the top leagues in the English football league system have articles (although most of them are currently stubs filled with some errors) about them. On a personal note, Phase One of this non-league project is now complete. I am also intending to revisit, expand, verify and correct these types of errors on these articles in the near future. --Siva1979Talk to me 21:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transfer

Hello! I hope you are feeling good. I have started this discussion at this page under section 36 of the talk page. Please state your comments about this. Although I respect your point of view, I have to disagree with you regarding this matter. However, I have not created that page yet, although a Manchester Football League Division One article had been created (before I read your comments). I hope that other users would also join in this discussion and it is my most sincere wish to have at least a compromise over this matter. --Siva1979Talk to me 21:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Bideford Football Club article update

If you wish to move the article back to Bideford A.F.C. (or Bideford F.C.) then please feel free to do so: I will not revert your decision. However, I would argue that the use of full-stops in any initialism is an archaic practice, no longer common in English usage (for example: most people write BBC, not B.B.C.; NATO, not N.A.T.O.; MP, not M.P.). --Marknew 20:09, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: FA Cup 2006-07

Richard - thanks for the help on the FA Cup pages. I think this year's article could be the most comprehensive yet, it could be a good project to work on =) doktorb wordsdeeds 07:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow - here I am with the morning paper, and you've filled the results already. Well done sir doktorb wordsdeeds 08:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Premier League Table

Can you please discuss the changes on the talk page first? Kingjeff 19:12, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Summaries

Sorry if you're referring to me adding the fb start and fb end tags to cup competitions. THis is sorta a race against the clock. If I don't do this fast enough, people revert to the old one before I can change the template in time. Again sorry. My edits were basically for template merging. Niall123 19:28, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Input

In regards to the comment you made on this AfD Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/James_Kim_(timeline_of_death). Could you also stop by and give your opinion here Talk:James_Kim#Timeline.3F as we're having a consensus issue.--Crossmr 19:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aberdare Athletic & Aberaman Athletic

Hi Richard, just wanted to clear up something. There was a claim that former League members Aberdare Athletic are now known as ENTO Aberaman Athletic. However according to your own FCHD the two clubs were separate entities in the 1920s at least [1] [2] and no mention of it is given in the official Aberaman history [3]; it admits there is a degree of confusion though. Could you possibly clear up whether the two clubs are the same or different? To me it looked like they existed as separate clubs in the 20s, but I could see it's possible that they might have merged after Aberdare dropped out of the League in 1927. Any input on Talk:ENTO Aberaman Athletic F.C. would be welcome, cheers. Qwghlm 13:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for helping out with the above; it's a complicated story but I think the articles better reflect it now thanks to your help. Incidentally, I can't believe no-one else on Wikipedia has given you a barnstar... Qwghlm 23:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Football (soccer) barnstar
... until now. For your resourcefulness, helpfulness and for maintaining the hugely informative FCHD, which is used by so many Wikipedia articles as a reliable reference, I hereby award you the Football barnstar. Take good care of it. :) Qwghlm 23:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

Hello! I wish to thank you for deleting the prod template from the article, Colliers Wood United F.C.. I really appreciate it! --Siva1979Talk to me 16:24, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Non-league clubs

User:Leroy whitelock has created several articles regarding defunct non-league clubs (mostly in Hampshire), including:

My inclination was to list them all as "Articles for Deletion" but it occurs to me that some of them may have played at or above level 10 in English football. As you are the expert on non-league football, would you like to identify those that should be kept? Thanks for your help. Daemonic Kangaroo 19:03, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] And It's Arsenal Afd

You recently !voted in this Afd. I've just seen one of the other prods was contested, for We all follow the Arsenal and have included it in the Afd and would welcome further comment. Thanks. One Night In Hackney 21:03, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] octavos de final = eigth finals

So I figure it's as good as quarter finals. You think so ;) Chivista 00:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re: Template:8TeamBracket

Sorry if my edit summary was not clear. Anyway, finals with an "s" is common American English, even if it is the last match of single-elimination tournament. WP:ENGVAR applies because most of the articles that use the template are American subjects. And also it was created by the first contributor who uses that particular form of English dialect (me). Therefore, I should go through the list and change each article that does not use American English. Hopefully this explanation is clear. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 22:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

By the way, American English, and therefore the default values of the template, also uses "Quarterfinals" and "Semifinals". iirc, European English commonly spells them as "Quarter finals" and "Semi finals" instead, with a space before the "F" in "Finals"; American English does not use a space. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 23:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FA Cup like USA's college baloncesto tournet

It's a great knockout tourney. It's the closest thing. Where should we put the comparison into trhe FA cup? Chivista 17:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ipswich Town F.C.

You're more than welcome to join in... it's not like there's not much to do! --Dweller 14:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for comment. --Dweller 10:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
It's up for WP:FAC now... would welcome your comments here. The Rambling Man 21:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)#Regarding notability of Football (soccer) players

Hi, seeing you have been involved in previous Afd debates I invite you to contribute to this discussion to clarify certain issues about football player notability. I think clearer guidelines are needed to avoid repeated inappropriate nominations for deletion and time consuming discussions. Cheers! StephP 17:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

Allo Richard, I've noticed that you've made some minor edits on articles I've contributed quite significantly to, and in your edit comments you have put comments in the lines of "I'm not sure if this is the right infobox to use." Well, yes, I have been using the Biography Infobox when adding infoboxes to articles (most of the articles didn't have infoboxes before I touched them). Well, although I see your point, I think the current Football Competition Infobox is rather scruffy, poorly presented and lacks quite a bit of useful information (especially on articles with on competitions which have a much higher precedence - which I don't really want to touch as they'll probably be reverted straight back anyway). And, correct me if I'm wrong, but if an article is a little better presented then maybe people would consider spending a little more time reading it. Personally I cannot stand reading articles of interest which are terribly laid out.

Perhaps the Football Competition Infobox debate should be discussed in the wider community, and maybe get the ball rolling on creating a better universal one to use on even the more "important" competition articles.

Please do reply with you thoughts and comments.

Cheers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cintrianex (talk • contribs) 15:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] FCHD's down

When I try to look for history to help me edit Acle United F.C., the site is down, so any problems with that site or what?? Rakuten06 17:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Because I moved it to "Northern League (football)" in the first place from Northern Football League before realising that it doesn't follow the pattern of all the other English football league articles. Hense why I changed it back to its original form. - Daddy Kindsoul 06:57, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bart Versieck

Greetings,

Bart is still changing people's comments...for exmample on 'Surviving Veterans of WWI' talk page he changed 'digitised' to 'digitalized'. I believe the first is a British spelling and word and the author's intent. Mr. Versieck needs to be suspended to make him stop this.R Young {yakłtalk} 00:30, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

And it continues on the Jimmy Carter talk page. I don't understand why he keeps doing it. Turtlescrubber 18:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Baldock

Sounds like a plan, I'll see if I can do some work on it tomorrow if I manage to get a lunch break on a hectic first day back in the office after holiday. Hope you had a good day at Wembley ChrisTheDude 21:34, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Özkan Murat

I would accept the fact that it doesn't matter that it is recognized or not. WP:BIO says Politicians who have held international, national or statewide/provincewide office, and members and former members of a national, state or provincial legislatures.5 . However there is a note which says This is a secondary criterion. People who satisfy this criterion will almost always satisfy the primary criterion. Biographers and historians will usually have already written about the past and present holders of major political offices. However, this criterion ensures that our coverage of major political offices, incorporating all of the present and past holders of that office, will be complete regardless.

Since I do not understand it can u explain it to me? Because as I understand, not all the ministers are notable (may be i am mistaken). I will appreciate if you explain it to me. User:KRBN 18:28, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Farsley Celtic

My apoligies I misread the BBC results page and thought that the semi-final play off was the final. Ram4eva 06:52, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Surviving Veterans of WWI

Dear Rundle,

I do believe you protest too much. The 'surviving veterans' page has been run for several years, giving additional credit to those with a 'track record' of verifiability...people such as Giovanni Alunni of Italy, Thomas Breining of Germany, etc. This is quite different from the "Dr. Anton Bodhal" proponents. Perhaps he is a WWI veteran, but those who are adding him have a track record of adding ficticious claims and patent nonsense (i.e. such as Marxus). Perhaps they are teenagers? Teens are known for not having good qualitative sense as regards to veracity and reliability. Unlike persons adding anonymous edits, on the other hand, I have a proven track record, including working for Guinness World Records, the Gerontology Research Group, the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research, the New England Centenarian Study, the Supercentenarian Research Foundation, the Social Security Administration, etc. In fact my resume in this field makes me the "world's leading expert."

However, often when a claim is submitted, it is 'confidential' and must go through a process of vetting, verification, securing permissions for use, photographing, documenting, etc. Following this comes arranging for the newspaper story, etc.Here I am giving you the benefit of the doubt, letting you in on the case early. Note, for example, I submitted the Harry Richard Landis claim to the VA and it was accepted. As I said: I already have a document on William Steegers and I'm expecting more. Note that this article is a 'current-event' style article, and like the 'breaking news' there should be a bit more tolerance for information added, especially when it comes from reliable researchers. Wikipedia is not paper and not a book; it can be modified quite rapidly as new information becomes available.R Young {yakłtalk} 22:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Cutting down season-by-season records for Cornish football clubs

I understand your concerns of recentism, and I was wary of this when I started cutting down the articles. However, I think that the full lists are too long, considering the short size of the rest of the article, and the link provided to your site is sufficient to provide the details required. If you have limited bandwidth and would prefer not to have all these links, another possibility is creating child articles that list the full history. Maybe I'm wrong, and the full list will return, but I simply think that it is more important to have a written history, and link to the season by season record rather than have a long list on the page itself. --Harrias 09:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comment on my user page

It's just a comment: I'm not attacking him at all. Extremely sexy 20:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CL

Its because it is already on a differnt page, and we do not need the info duplicated on this page, as stated there is a link

[edit] New Milton

That'll teach me not to check the bit that someone else put in saying they'd been accepted.... ChrisTheDude 12:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Witton Albion F.C.

There's been something of a dispute over the capacity of Witton Albion's Wincham Park. The reference given is likely to be outdated, but I can't find anything better. Given your knowledge of the non-league scene I wondered if you might be able shed some light on the matter. Oldelpaso 20:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Bhoys from Seville

Thank you for your contribution on the above AfD. Your time and effort is much appriciated. regards--Vintagekits 01:19, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edits to English Football League System

Hi - noticed your comment about removing the links to the divisional articles of the Combined Counties League - "Why remove them because the articles exist?" I am intending to make the divisional articles redirects to the main league article, just as I have with the Wessex League for example, but am first tidying things up by removing the links to what will be, in the next day or two, redirects. I think I'm going about this the right way around, but if you feel otherwise please feel free to comment. - fchd 07:37, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in replying. Well, I think if there is enough content for separate articles, or there ever will be, then the articles should exist (even if in stub form). Nevertheless, I think the fact that I had that all I saw was that links to legitimate articles had been removed shows that you probably did do it the wrong way round; it probably would have been better if you had converted the articles into redirects and then removed the links, probably all in one sitting. But of course, that's only my opinion. - Green Tentacle 16:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marlow

Re you edit to FA Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FA_Cup&curid=11237&diff=141372897&oldid=141367640). What do you mean by "Marlow must have more"? Just out of interest.  slυмgυм [ ←→ ] 13:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I see..I had managed to find only Marlow United F.C. via the Marlow dab page. I have since updated that page to include Marlow F.C.. It's interesting trivia. Ta.  slυмgυм [ ←→ ] 15:22, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Worcestershire Combination 1952-52

Hi Richard

I've got one champion missing from the list on the Midland Football Combination page, namely 1952-52, I was wondering if you had this info? I did this search, which appears to turn up FCHD listings for 18 of the 19 teams that competed that year, but not the team that finished first...?

Thanks in advance for your help

ChrisTheDude 21:12, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks! ChrisTheDude 21:22, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Southern Football League

Hi - I note you reverted my previous edit. Your edit summary says that "Slimbridge have resigned". Should Slimbridge not then be removed from the list of clubs participating next season, with perhaps an explanation of what has happened and why? As it stands we have a list of 66 clubs in the article, whilst the infobox etc. says 65. This was the reason for me reverting the previous edits, neither of which had an edit summary or further explanation.

On the Slimbridge F.C. page there is no mention of the Southern League or why winning the Hellenic League in 2006-07 should lead to them playing in the Gloucestershire North Senior League next season.

Keep up the good work. Daemonic Kangaroo 05:56, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Northern Premier League templates

It wasn't a big job, I have to admit, and I kicked myself when I realised my mistake - I've done enough browsing of non-league articles that I should've known that myself. And I was still making edits when I read your message, so I just got down and did it. Sorry for the inconvenience. If I make any other stupid blunders like that again, do please tell me, as I do tend to let the odd thing slip my notice, and I'm quite aware that they can cause problems for other users. Falastur2 15:32, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scarborough Athletic

It could well be. They both make edits to non-league/Italian football and music. Bit too much of a coincidence. Daddy Kindsoul being blocked and this guy, almost identical, comes along.. Mattythewhite 19:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Can we put a sockpuppet thing on User:SalvoCalcio, or do we need more proof? Mattythewhite 19:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Admin for being socukuppetry or for.. well, as you explained.. Mattythewhite 20:10, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I've brought it to the attention of The Rambling Man. Mattythewhite 20:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
This is all over my head but I have found some templates at Wikipedia:Sock puppetry, there is also a method called check user at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser and a report page here Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets. Bridgeplayer 20:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hargreaves

There are more articles that does it my way then your way. You have a lot of work to do. You can't set one standard for one player and one for every other player. Kingjeff 18:48, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

That leads only to inconsistency. Which I guess is a British thing. Kingjeff 19:43, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

But that is still less then half of all footballer articles. So you are still inconsistent. Maybe you're not changing policy. Maybe you're creating a policy which no one else has agreed too. Kingjeff 20:19, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need your expert advise

Hello! I hope you are feeling great. I would like you to view my comments here. Your thoughts on this matter is needed here. --Siva1979Talk to me 10:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Leek Town F.C.

Hi Richard

Many thanks for adding in the details of Leek Town's other two Manchester League wins - would it be possible to add those details to FCHD so that I can cite it? I'm planning on putting the article up for FA status and I'd hate some nitpicker to quibble over the fact that there's no citation for those two honours.....

Cheers!!!! ChrisTheDude 21:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need your help

Hello! I hope you are feeling great. I need your views on this page here. --Siva1979Talk to me 04:22, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your sig

It really confused me. How come you use a sig that's so different from your username? --Dweller 14:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kiev vs Kyiv

I based from here.

FC Dynamo Kyiv is a professional football club from the Ukrainian capital, Kiev (Kyiv). (Ukrainian: ФК Динамо Київ, FK Dynamo Kyiv; Russian: Динамо Киев, Dinamo Kiev). Raymond Giggs 17:25, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Based on my Chinese version atlas, it doesn't use the non-English names, such as "Moskva", "Praha", something like that, but I could not see any names of "Kyiv" on that atlas, but "Kiev". Raymond Giggs 17:35, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Published by Longman at 2004. And you could find out the spelling "Kiev" and "Kyiv" in Spelling Checking System. Raymond Giggs 18:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, not Microsoft Word, using a "Mozilla Firefox" to check the mistake. However, WP:3RR would not be used again because a decision has made. WP:EW is finished. Raymond Giggs 18:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Bart Versieck

Bart has been warned and blocked multiple times about editing other users' comments and respecting Wikipedia policies. The way he responded to your request was unacceptable as well, so I have reported him to the admin noticeboard with 10 examples of his editing of other's comments in the past two weeks. Cheers, CP 16:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] September 2007

Don't use User again please. Raymond Giggs 06:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Change it yourself. Raymond Giggs 16:01, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bayern Munich 1 - 2 Norwich City

Hi. I'd be grateful if you'd review your contribution, as the article itself is greatly improved and, I believe, now solidly makes its case for notability, where previously it was very vague. Thanks. --Dweller 10:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Out of curiosity, would you have changed your mind? --Dweller 13:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ron-Robert Zieler

They're gone now. I simply forgot to delete them; thanks for letting me know. --Coredesat 05:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Defunct clubs?

Hi Richard. As the creator of the wonderful FCHD, I was wondering if you knew if Loughton Orient F.C. and MK Scot F.C. are now defunct? I seem to remember reading on a message board that MK Scot were, but it's hardly a reliable source! Thanks, Number 57 10:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A.F.C. Clubs

Hello! I hope you are feeling great. With regards to your recent edit on A.F.C. Wulfrunians, you stated that A.F.C. clubs are normally sorted under A. Then, may I ask, what about A.F.C. Bournemouth and other similar clubs? I personally agree with your revertion. I was just following the example of other clubs which starts with A.F.C.. So should I just correct these clubs as well? Your thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated. --Siva1979Talk to me 06:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I am somewhat puzzled by your recent revertion on the chnages I made to the artice. The dates does add something to the article as they are dealing with football (or soccer). It is a more accurate wikification. The article deals with a football club and the dates are linked to football as well. I have to disagree with your revertion. However, I do not want to start an edit war over this and hope that you will revert back the edits you have made. If you disagree with this, we should start a discussion over this matter and let the community decide over this matter. --Siva1979Talk to me 07:10, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I have now completed in putting all those A.F.C. clubs under the letter A. As for your revertion on the changes I made to the article which concerns the dates, I hope that you will revert it back as the subject theme is the same. --Siva1979Talk to me 07:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Northern League (football)

Just seen your message on the talkpage. You are right about this and we should move it back. Valenciano 20:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A correction

Hello! I hope you are feeling fine. I would like to point out that in the 2007-08 season, Brighton Hove and District Football League Premier Division has a total of 9 clubs competing in the division. The source of my comments is in this webpage where it clearly shows that the Premier Division has only nine clubs competing at the moment. I hope you can fix this. If you have any doubts, please reply to my talkpage. --Siva1979Talk to me 05:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, AFC St Georges seems to be missing from this competition this season. This webpage shows only nine clubs in the Premier Division. Maybe the club folded or withdrew from the league before the start of the new season? I am not too sure and I hope that you can enlighten me about this. Thanks. --Siva1979Talk to me 08:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source?

Hello! I hope you are feeling great! I would just like to know where you got the source of the past winners of the Brighton Hove and District Football League. I can't seem to find it anywhere over the net. You included a total of five past winners of this league. I hope that you can enlighten me on where you got this information because I would like to expand it as well. Thanks! --Siva1979Talk to me 07:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Step 7

Hi Richard. I see you have nominated Teesside Athletic F.C. for deletion based on the fact that it is a Step 7 club and has never played higher. Whilst I am in agreement with you that such Step 7 clubs shouldn't have an article (with the possible exception of the SW Peninsula E/W League and CML Supreme clubs, both very strong Step 7 leagues), would you do the same for clubs in the Anglian Combination (all of which have articles and almost none of which have played higher), and also Essex Olympian/Kent County league (Step 7 leagues withouth a Step 6 above it).

If so, perhaps we could organise an AfD that covers all current Step 7 clubs which haven't played higher - it would be a big task, but probably easier in the long run than deleting them one at a time.

Let me know your thoughts on the matter, пﮟოьεԻ 57 11:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll watch for the outcome of the Teeside Athletic one, and go from there. I agree with your criteria (e.g. not played above Step 7 and/or having been in the FA cup. I'm sure your site will come in useful for sorting out which ones qualify! пﮟოьεԻ 57 19:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your help

Thanks for your help in saving the Thomas M. Jacobs article from deletion. I really appreciate it. Chris 12:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] YCFC seasons

Hey. I was wondering if you could give me a little help with the naming of the Football League Trophy. The FLC for York City F.C. seasons has brought up a discussion as to when the competition was renamed. Your site states the competition was known as the Associate Members Cup until the 1999-2000 season, for York at least, but the Football League Trophy article states it was known as the AMC until 1992. Could you help clarify this.. Thanks, Mattythewhite 12:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Makedonsko Devoiche"

In the Articles for deletion thread [4] for this article you voted to delete it because there were no reliable sources. However now several very significant sources have been added to the article these sources also come from reliable organizations. Some of them are::

The BBC is an organization that was founded in 1922 and are currently the largest broadcasting corporation in the world. The Soros foundation is an international organization managed by the "Open Society Institute". The Soros foundation is a network encompassing more than 60 countries. Please reconsider your decision to delete this song. Several editors have compared this song to epic historic songs. This is what one editor said "It's analogous to deleting Waltzing Matilda, I Still Call Australia Home and The Wild Colonial Boy which are songs well known by Anglophones."

Thank you Ireland101 23:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lancashire Combination

Do you have any tables for the Lancashire Combination? There's a discrepancy between our article, which lists Everton reserves as the 1908-09 champions, and my Manchester City F.C. Official Handbook 1997-98, which lists City's reserves as that season's champions. I tried a Google query using site:www.fchd.info , but didn't turn up anything. Oldelpaso (talk) 19:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, City won Division Two that season, that explains it. My book doesn't list divisions, which is a little disingenuous. Thanks for the help. If its any use in the balancing, the Manchester City details match what I have. Oldelpaso (talk) 20:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Magdalena Mikloş - can you add that reference?

Hi there, I noticed that you mentioned "David Wallechinsky's books" in your contribution to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magdalena Mikloş. Could you possibly add that reference to the article? - I have already added the web-page that I found but the more the merrier. Thanks in advance, nancy (talk) 17:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Harry Potter mediation

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[edit] Harry Potter arbitration

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[edit] Superseded (in Kit (association football) article)

Hi, I saw you'd reverted my spelling change back to supercede. Just checked it, and according to both Chambers and the OED (UK view), it's definitely spelt with an s. It comes from a different Latin root from similar words such as precede or recede. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:31, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of footballers

Hi, you contributed to the discussion about football notability criteria in November, so you will be delighted/appalled that I have restarted the discussion here. Please give your opinion so that we can move towards formalising the criteria. Regards, King of the NorthEast 15:10, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Worcestershire FA

Thanks for improving the article I created this morning, I realised shortly after creating it that the others were all spelt out in full, but unfortunately, I had used Sussex (the only one that did not) as my template in creating the page! All the best! Petepetepetepete (talk) 11:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Move of Steaua

I requested a RM on October 2007, but the new naming convention is decided on November.

(1) In cases where there is no ambiguity whatsoever as to the official spelling of a club's name in English, the official name should be used.

  • Tests for "no ambiguity": the club's official web site has an English-language section; and that name has been adopted at least by a significant section of the English-language media; and it is recognizable; and it is not easily confused with other clubs' names.

Those four requirements are met, I felt strange why you said it is a controversial move. Raymond Giggs 08:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Confused

You are confused: you remove links and I restore them!!!! Links of various sports are so many because are repeated for the same sports!!!! But which game do you play???? Stop your edit warring: they maybe block you and not me!!!! Don't edit like as an ignorant.--PIO (talk) 17:01, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] fchd and European cup managers

Hi Richard, you may or may not have noticed that I'm sitting with three FLCs all on the winning managers of UEFA Cup, Champions League and Cup Winners' cup. Before I disappeared for the weekend I found a page on fchd which listed managers and their various successes in these contests. I can't find it any more and I'd like to use it as an external link... Any suggestions? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:00, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 15 months later...

See your comment at Talk:East Villa F.C. and then take a look at the article. Just a few more hours and your long wait will be over ;-) --Dweller (talk) 15:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: 2006 in football page

Well the 2007 and 2008 articles only had the first division national champs. Just keeping with consistency. If you'd like to take it to discussion, that's okay by me. Normy 07:46, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Resignation/Folded clubs

Just wanted to apologise for removing AFC Court & Smith earlier - just came back online to reinstate it and strike it through. Wasnt thinking earlier - must have been half asleep still. Sorry about the others last week - didnt realise you had to strike them through (but youve corrected them all now anyway. Regards Sarumio (talk) 16:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sutton Town A.F.C.

Out of interest, what else could the A.F.C. stand for, if not "Association Football Club"? – PeeJay 19:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, fair enough. Guess I was being a bit hypocritical by assuming it stood for Association Football Club. – PeeJay 19:26, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removing clubs from league categories

Basically, my rationale is that categorising clubs by the league they currently play in is impractical, especially at this level of football. My other concern is organisational. If there was a category for all clubs that have ever played in a particular league, like Category:Premier League clubs, at least then the category wouldn't need reshuffling every year, but at the minute, lumping all the clubs in the league together with articles about the league itself doesn't make sense to me organisationally. – PeeJay 21:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adding sigs to talk pages

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, such as in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conference National 1979-80 Results, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button Image:Signature_icon.png located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. I'm sorry this message sounds patronising, as it's obviously intended for people who are unfamiliar with Wikipedia. Anyway, I thought I'd just give you a friendly reminder to sign your posts. Thanks. – PeeJay 17:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: A.F.C.

Ah, I see where you're coming from. I guess it does make more sense that way. – PeeJay 12:03, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] APL/Conference

Hi Richard. With regards to your comment here, you are right about the naming of the season-by-season articles, and it's something I will do. However, I am slightly unsure when it stopped being the APL - the article on the Football Conference states that it became the Conference in 1986, but from 1984-1986 went under the sponsored name "Gola League" - was the non-sponsor name still the APL during this period? Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 15:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Great Lever F.C.

Hi Richard. To remove a few red links, I was thinking of creating a stub article for the above named club, who produced one rather obscure England player in Alf Jones. Although they appeared on & off in the FA Cup between 1882 & 1887, they are not listed on your website. Can you explain?

I note that there is a page on the Norwegian WP at [7]] which I will endeavour to translate. Cheers. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 12:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Time parameter on Champions League final template

Hello! Well, I think that, first of all, if there is a time parameter in the {{footballbox}} template, we should use it. Otherwise it would be redundant. Second, I personally think that the time at which the match took place is a notable thing. Removing the time would have the same effect as removing the date, for example. And since the match report, with goalscorers, stadium and attendance, of the CL final will be put on the article (not only the scores, as for all other matches), I think that time should be there as well. Now if we only put the score for the final there and leave the report to the subarticle, that'd be a completely different story!  ARTYOM  13:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sarumio block

Hi Richard. Just wanted to respond briefly to you comment that the block was harsh. Have you looked at Sarumio's talk page history? He started blanking out warnings on 11 February and since then has willfully edited against the consensus. I gave him two final warnings and he still continued to behave that way. A short block (after all, 55 hours isn't all that) was the only next step, how many times can I "finally warn" someone before it becomes idle? The Rambling Man (talk) 08:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Surviving veterans of World War I‎

Then fix Last surviving World War I veteran by country, too. Marvin Nash (talk) 10:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Non-league clubs who have resigned...

Hey, sorry about that. I'll leave in the Strikes as I update. Trjumpet (talk) 19:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Just FYI

You ought to be aware you've been namechecked at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Grant.Alpaugh. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it raised my eyebrows when I read the list of suspects... just thought you should know! The Rambling Man (talk) 08:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] =Sock case

Sorry for the Sock case. This was more about Grant then it was about you. Kingjeff (talk) 17:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please be careful when changing sigs between your two accounts

Okay, I'll try using another method to show my identity. Thanks. (Hey! My surname is not "Giggs", please!) Raymond Giggs 06:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Football in Wales

Surely white on a red background is easier to read than dark blue on red? – PeeJay 16:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)