User talk:Rich nffc
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[edit] Hello
Welcome to my talk page.
If you want to tell me off for vandalizing a page, please do so in here :)
If you want to praise me for a good contribution, also please do so in here :)
Thanks, Rich 16:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Edits to Derby County F.C.
Just a small request... please use actual dates in articles, as words like 'today', 'tomorrow' etc quickly become outdated. Cheers. --Jameboy 20:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] May 2008
[edit] Welcome
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JohnCD (talk) 17:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed deletion of My home
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[edit] AfD nomination of My home
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[edit] Your recent edits
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[edit] Your home
I'm not anti-British, in fact I'm British; but I'm interested in keeping Wikipedia a useful encyclopedia, not just an indiscriminate collection of information. The way to do that is to insist that articles have to be about something of enough general interest, defined as notability - see policies like Notability and guidelines like Notability (places and transportation). Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok, that's fair enough. I just wanted to see if I was capable of building a location article. I'm trying to give places in Derbyshire a higher profile on Wikipedia, and have made a large contribution to a lot of local articles, especially Codnor, I did also create Loscoe, but I'm worried it's not a big enough village to be considered Notable? Rich 18:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Loscoe should be OK (I've added "England" for the benefit of non-Brits, there are probably other Derbyshires in the world!) Any village big enough to appear on the map is usually accepted. Suburbs and districts are dodgier, unless they have some distinct character, and housing estates and shopping centres even more so. WP:NPT is the relevant guideline - it's only a proposal, not set in stone, but it gives an idea of what's acceptable. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Reverts
Hi! If you think an article should be deleted, please tag it for deletion. For this, see WP:AFD. Blanking a page is (almost) never the right thing to do. Most of the time, it constitutes vandalism. Ok? --Abrech (talk) 19:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok I will do.
- Good and thanks. I have deleted the warning message because I think it's not appropriate anymore. Kind regards, --Abrech (talk) 19:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
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- I see what you were trying to do, but there is a better way: you can change the title of a page by "moving" it - click the "Move" tab at the top of the page and fill in the new title on the form that appears. Then the old page is left behind as a redirect, and if it's not useful you can put {{db-r3}} at the top, which asks for it to be speedily deleted. Blanking a page is something vandals do, and triggers all sorts of (human and automatic) alarms. If you want to get rid of a page where you are the only author, you can put {{db-author}} at the top. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:18, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice! I've still got a lot to learn on Wikipedia so I'll make sure that I try to do things like that in the correct manner.
- Your attempt to move Kilburn, Derbyshire to Kilburn by just copying the text and then deleting the original article would violate Wikipedia's copyright license by eliminating the edit history. Please don't do that. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
EXCUSE ME? I think you're wrong. Please stay out of this. I'm not editing maliciously at all.
And copyright, when I've wrote most of it at a friends house???
- I will accept that you are trying to do the right thing, but you are not succeeding. You copied the full text of Kilburn, Derbyshire to Kilburn instead of moving it. If we now delete Kilburn, Derbyshire, then the edit history will disappear. That would violate the GNU Free Documentation License. That's in addition to the fact that Kilburn, Derbyshire, is not the largest place named Kilburn even in its own country; Kilburn, Greater London appears to be more populous. So it's not clear to me why the Kilburn in Derbyshire gets the plain name, and in fact I have changed Kilburn to a redirect to Kilburn (disambiguation). Several different editors have contributed to Kilburn, Derbyshire, so it's not clear to me how I can confirm that you wrote most of it. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok, sorry. Kilburn, Greater London, isn't actually a town in it's own right. It's an area divided between three London boroughs, and people who live in that area wouldn't say they lived in Kilburn, surely they'd say they lived in one of the three boroughs instead? Can the warning please be deleted? I'm editing in good faith. Rich 19:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Just to be clear, people who live in Kilburn definitely do say they live in Kilburn, it's a district and people identify themselves with districts far more than boroughs, which are local authorities and cover a fairly wide area. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 20:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- That's all right. I have removed the harsh part of the warning. If it is considered really desirable to move Kilburn, Derbyshire to Kilburn, please discuss that on an appropriate talk page and get a consensus first. Then the page can be moved using the proper "move" function rather than cutting and pasting the text. Even then, a redirect must be left at Kilburn, Derbyshire -- that page should never be deleted entirely, just left as a redirect in case of a move. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cross Hill merger
Hi Rich
Merger is a good idea. I created the page from a red link in List of places in Derbyshire; it's not the smallest "place' to have its own page, there's probably quite a few that could be merged. Ning-ning (talk) 18:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah I have noticed that too, for example these three articles all co-exist: Aldercar, Langley Mill & Aldercar and Langley Mill Rich 08:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have a view (not widely endorsed) that in rural areas, the Wikipedia article should be at the civil parish level. So in this case Aldercar and Langley Mill should both be redirects to Aldercar and Langley Mill. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 07:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)