User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )/Quotes in citations

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here are further examples of the utility of quotes in citations. The New York Times is a stable site with a good archive, however, just a year ago the archive was housed at ProQuest and not on the New York Times servers. Links from a year ago to ProQuest no longer work. Many of the articles are just titles, but quoting text has the utility to find the article and tease a bit more from it for confirmation. No one should have to buy the article over and over again to confirm the citation. Books are static, once vetted, they don't usually need to be vetted again. Wikipedia has open editorship, so must be patrolled continuously.

A click on the link at the New York Times (click below on the article title link) gives no information beyond the title. I had to purchase the article. Below I added a few sentences to the quote parameter, now the information can be confirmed by using Google. Type into Google News Archive: "Frank G. Seyfang, balloon designer and manufacturer" and you get this almost magically.
A click on the link at the New York Times (click below on the article title link) gives no information beyond the title. When I put the quote in Google: this magically appears
Note the New College website is no longer active, now that the college is closed. The link would normally be deleted since it is no longer working. Maybe the WayBackMachine has it, maybe not. But, the reference can now stand on its own since the quotation was saved along with the citation.
Was he born in New York City and raised in New Jersey, or born in New Jersey? A click on the link here gives no information beyond the lede. When I put the quote in Google: this magically appears

[edit] Poorly referenced, incorrect information is hard to spot and vet

Incorrect information sits in articles while editors endlessly revert changes by people trying to reference the articles. Redspruce tends to revert to incorrect information because he didn't add it:

  • In the Annie Lee Moss article the RedSpruce caption for the photo said she was testifying before Joseph McCarthy, even though the article says that he left the room when she started to testify. See here
  • In the article on Elizabeth Bentley, RedSpruce stated that "her death passed with relatively little notice." Read here. A search in Google news found her obituary in the New York Times, Time magazine, and the Washington Post, and others.

[edit] References

  1. ^ "F.G. Seyfang Dead At 73.", New York Times, February 11, 1963. Retrieved on 2008-05-05. "Frank G. Seyfang, balloon designer and manufacturer, died today at Atlantic City Hospital. He was 73 years old. Born in Findlay, Ohio, he was a [protégé of] Captain Baldwin, pioneer balloonist. He was credited with developing the windsock balloon ..." 
  2. ^ a b "Banker E.F.C. Young Dead in 74th Year.", New York Times, December 7, 1908, Monday. Retrieved on 2007-08-21. "He remained President of this bank up to the time of his death." 
  3. ^ "Dan Antonioli", New College of California. Retrieved on 2007-09-25. "Dan Antonioli, Green Construction Consultant, is a green construction specialist with over twenty years of experience in general construction and ten years in ecological design, alternative construction, and green building." 
  4. ^ Ogden, David. "Cold War Science and the Body Politic". “... Cohn describes William Walter Remington, a defendant in a perjury case that Cohn ... Born in New York City in 1917, he was raised in Ridgewood, N.J., ...”