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[edit] Dubious Statement

  • He has also alienated many conservative voters in his own party for his support of the Texas Hate Crimes law and for his appointment of Democrats and liberal Republicans to high level positions within the state government. Among the appointments that conservatives criticize are Perry's first Secretary of State Henry Cuellar, now a Democratic congressman, and former State Supreme Court Justice Xavier Rodriguez, a moderate with a judicial philosophy modelled after David Souter. Perry also drew sharp criticism from the right for his successful campaign to oust conservative Supreme Court Justice Steven Wayne Smith in the 2004 Republican Primary. Smith drew Perry's ire two years earlier by defeating Rodriguez on a conservative platform.

Can we please have some sources for these criticisms? Thanks, -Willmcw June 29, 2005 01:43 (UTC)

[edit] Environmental Policy

Perry has backed states' rights on several occasions, including the ability of states to decide their own policy on the environment and on drugs rather than have it decided for them by the federal government.

Took out the part saying, "have it decided for them by the federal government." The framing of this sentence seems to imply that it is always bad for the federal government to "decide" these policies. It is arguable that the federal government actually "decides" what environmental policy should be. Numerous state agencies and local stakeholders are involved in most federal decisions on environmental regulations and policies. --Weatheru2 04:16, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Errors In This Article

This article contains a number of errors and is heavily slanted in favor of the GOP and Perry. For one thing, the article states that Perry has "worked to reduce property taxes." Anyone who actually lives in Texas can tell you that this is laughable: property taxes in Texas have, in fact, been skyrocketing for years now. Also, the article states that Perry "worked to reform Texas health care and make it more accessible, increasing health funding by $6 billion." There's a reason this statement doesn't have a reference; it is totally inaccurate. Perry has in fact gutted all social services, including health care and Texas consistently ranks 49th or 50th in all categories of social services, health care and education.

I agree, it seems pretty biased.--Evan7257 09:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I took out the line about Perry signing death penalty orders. The Governor in Texas does not have that power, trial judges sign execution warrants.

I cannot attest to the accuracy or inaccuracy of this article, but as a undecided voter trying to learn about the issues, I fear this article is heavily weighted against Gov. Perry. I would hope that in this forum the information would be less partisan and more factual. I do not think it is at all.

So what you're saying is "I can't tell if the article is right or wrong, but it's wrong" That doesn't make much sense. Do you have any specifics on what in the article is not well supported or appears POV? Mr Christopher 15:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Mr. Christopher, a cursory read shows the obvious, that the article has a subtle slant that tends to extoll Rick's virtues, rather than simply report the facts. The following snippets demonstrate what the previous man was trying to say:
    • achieving fame as one of A&M's white-jumpsuited, all male yell leader squad
    • (His wife) has spearheaded a number of health-related initiatives
    • Perry worked to reform Texas health care and make it more accessible
    • creating new scholarship programs to help needy children in Texas
    • Perry's lieutenant governor and governor campaigns focused on a tough stance on crime (by the way, the article fails to mention the specific positions he took)
    • Perry, a proponent of fiscal conservatism, has often campaigned on tax reform and job growth. Perry resisted new income and sales taxes, protected the state's "Rainy Day fund", balanced the state budget, and worked to reduce property taxes that exploded with inflation in property values in the late 1990s. He has been credited with attracting thousands of jobs to Texas in recent years by cutting payroll and property taxes. (What unbiased source has credited him personally with attracting jobs to Texas? And where is the balanced mention of the huge surge in property taxes that has actually happened...despite his "work"?)


Et cetera, et cetera So much of it reads like campaign literature, doesn't it?
As a current student of Texas government, I came to this article hoping for some unbiased information, just as the person who Mr. Christopher rebutted did. The article's pervasive bias was obvious, and when I turned to the talk page to mention this fact, I find that Mr. Christopher, a Wikipedia member, chose to criticize the man for not citing the obvious rather than working toward correcting the problem he mentioned.
Mr. Christopher, I have taken a few minutes to cite the obvious, and though I've failed to mention many other aspects of this article that are out of balance, or that are an unsatisfactory match to the facts, they nonetheless exist. Please forgive me a thousand times for not mentioning every single one.
Perhaps when I am finished obtaining a college degree, I'll come back here, to alter this article's bias so that it's completely against Rick. Mr. Christopher can then compare the two versions to understand the root problem. Until then, I have lots of other writing to do.
This will be the last time I consult Wikipedia on political matters. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.112.78.22 (talk) 23:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Disambiguating Victoria

Perry polled 1,858,837 votes (50.04 percent) to the 1,790,106 (48.19 percent) cast for Democrat John Sharp of Victoria

I wasn't sure what to disambiguate Victoria to, though I guess it's either Victoria, Texas or Victoria County, Texas. Can someone who knows more about this fix it up? Vadmium 08:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Perry's role in Tom Delays redistricting plan

Their need to be mention of the fact that he called a special session of the legislature to push through the controversial redistricting plan that gave Republican's an advantage over democrats in Texas' US House districts. I'n not sure where to put this though. --Cab88 18:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Organization

This article is really disorganized; there are far too many headings and most of them could be condensed into more general sections. I'll give it a go, but someone with more knowledge of Perry's career might want to take over. -Fearfulsymmetry 15:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Election information

I removed the following paragraph since it is uncited and seems to violate OR and doesn't seem NPOV (only 48%, Despite polling at only 33%, etc).

His approval rating is only 48%, which would tend to leave him vulnerable to election defeat. Perry seems to be benefiting however from the unusual four person race in which his opposition is fractured fairly evenly among his opponents. Despite polling at only 33%, Perry is ahead of all challengers in the current race for Texas governor.

--PTR 22:19, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A little Help Plz

Sorry about adding this on here but mind telling me when the next State Governor electing will take place. I may be interested in running for it, but I'm not sure how to do that. Plz forgive my limited knowledge.--Zhang Liao 21:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

There's an election in a little under a week. Far, far too late to get into that one. The next will be four years from now, as the Texas Gavenor's term is four years. - TexasAndroid

[edit] Sexual orientation and Perry's conservatism

Bearing in mind the references to his overt position on homosecuality, why is there not yet any mentioned of his suspected sexual orientation (ie. is he gay?). There are many sources for this, so the hypocrisy (that his opposition to repeal of anti-sodomy laws etc..) suggests, there certainly needs to be a balanced entry on this issue. http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/11/04/kinky/ Boldymumbles 19:15, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Perry's views on non-Christians

I am obviously just scratching the surface on this issue, all his oppoents have commented on Perry's views but I'm strapped for time to include them at the moment. Hopefully others can add to it Mr Christopher 17:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Your bias shows when you have a section on Perry's views on non-Christians, but have no similar sections in his detractor's pages, i.e. Carole Keeton Strayhorn's page doesn't have a section called "Strayhorn's Hypocrisy With Her Religion", or "Bell's Inconsistency with His Religious Views". Perry was totally correct when he stated that his faith claims Jesus as the only way to God. It's the others, who call themselves Christians that are inconsistent or hypocritical with their beliefs. You're just proving that you agree with the others and disagree with Perry.

Actually bias has nothing to do with it. Perry made his views known and those views are noteable. Besides, spanking the editors of the Perry article about issues you have with the Bell and Strayhorn articles doesn't make much sense if you think about it. You might share your concerns about those articles with the editor(s) that are writing them. Something to consider. Mr Christopher 17:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Can we quit criticizing people for believing in their religion? I would rather have an atheist than some wishy washy Christian that puts up a politically correct front and says that every faith is acceptable. This is such a dumb criticism and if you want to make a note of this, then do it in a page titled "Criticisms of Religion". Then people can take it from there. I'm removing this section in one week if there are no points otherwise.128.175.81.47 (talk) 01:45, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the emotional response last time. But I waited over a month for a response and no one responded so I removed the entire section. Again, if people find it offensive that one believes only his/her religion saves, then their criticism should be placed in a page titled "Criticisms of Religion" or "Criticisms of Organized Religion". I hope that we don't start to actually criticize people for believing in their religion. -Brad Kgj08 (talk) 23:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Intelligent Design advocate

I see where this article has been added to that cat, yet there are no details in the article about his position on the subject. I belive he has gone on record stating intelligent d4esign is in fact a valid scientific theory. I know the Statesman wrote quite a bit on the topic but I cannot find anything online there, the Dallas Morning news covered it here. I'll see about including it in the article. Mr Christopher 18:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] 47th Governor of Texas

I've fixed the edit, Perry is the 47th Governor (Bill Clements isn't counted 'twice'). GoodDay 22:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Adios, Mofo"

Why was this omitted? I could have sworn that it was present at an earlier point in time. I would think that it would belong under the "Perry-isms" section. 68.203.115.157 05:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Death Penalty

I believe there should be some mention in the section on the "Death Penalty" of his refusal to grant a stay of execution for Kelsey Patterson, a man who had a history of mental illness. Even the Parole Board recommended that Patterson's sentence be commuted to life. Governor Perry ignored their opinion. http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/patterson910.htm