Talk:Rick Pantera

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[edit] Notability?

Just FYI, porn stars have to satisfy either the criteria of notability at WP:PORNBIO or at WP:BIO. Unless Pantera satisfies one of those, and the article states what (with a reference), it's likely to be deleted. Thanks for your work on it! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 07:11, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

  • SatyrTN, Rick will satisfy requirements as he won a Grabby Award in 1994. See here Jay*Jay (talk) 08:41, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Advertisements

The descriptions of the video sound like advertisements and need to go completely. Aleta (Sing) 02:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

After no discussion here, but some concurrence with my assessment at WT:LGBT, I have deleted the descriptions. Aleta (Sing) 22:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Videography

Is it common for porn actors to have every single movie listed with director, co-stars, etc.? That whole section looks way too long and the years are all out of order. --AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 22:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia:WikiProject Pornography#Filmographies, there should be no more than six videos listed generally, and any more should meet specific requirements like winning awards. Aleta (Sing) 22:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I'll take it upon myself to fix this unless someone has an objection. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 22:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I have no objection. I wouldn't have any idea which to remove and which to leave. Aleta (Sing) 22:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed most of the movies since no more than 6 are to be mentioned. I left the two movies that won him awards and one or two that mentioned porn actors with wiki articles. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 22:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

We understand fully the guidelines of the structure within the community of this organization. If you intend to limit the accuracy of the Videography within the Rick Pantera information then you must also limit the Videography information presented for Kip Noll, Randy White, Jason Tyler, Bobby Madison, Blade Thompson, Brent Everett, Sergio Canali, Jack Wrangler, and hundred other adult performers. When, if, ,and or, until the countless other Videography or limited we intend to provide equal coverage for Adult performer Rick Pantera, Thank You. - World News International —Preceding unsigned comment added by World News International (talk • contribs) 23:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

This just in..."Limiting the accuracy" means abiding by Wikipedia standards. If you would like to help us edit the articles you mentioned so that they also abide by Wikipedia standards, it would be appreciated. APK News AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 23:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


Your biased removal of the Videography within the Rick Pantera page was unscrupulously contingent upon personal objection of others Wikipedia users. Well, we object. When, if, and or, until the countless other Videography from List_of_male_performers_in_gay_porn_films ) within Wikipedia are limited to six, (6) films we intend to provide equal coverage for Adult performer Rick Pantera. We will eagerly be watching pages of individual performers from the List_of_male_performers_in_gay_porn_films ) for equality Thank You. World News International (talk) 23:24, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Who are "we"? You are an "I", are you not? There was nothing unscrupulous about APK's edit - the standard is no more than six should be listed. If the other articles don't conform to that, they need to; that doesn't mean we keep disobeying the standard here. Also, using terms like "unscrupulous" is not in keeping with assuming good faith. Please try to do that. Aleta (Sing) 23:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Please explain the accusation of bias and unless your account is operated by someone who is bipolar, then please refer to yourself as "I", not "We" because trying to make it look like you represent many WP users is dishonest. Like I mentioned before, if you want to help us correct the articles you mentioned, then it would be greatly appreciated, but using the excuse "since other article are wrong, this needs to be wrong" doesn't cut it. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 23:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


We respectfully request that you limit all the pages of individual performers from the List_of_male_performers_in_gay_porn_films ) When the rules to which you site only apply to one person it is considered to be “discrimination” . If your intention are not to discriminate against Rick Pantera then you must apply the rules to the pages of all the individual performers from the List_of_male_performers_in_gay_porn_films ) for equality. Until such an event takes place we will not discriminate against Rick Pantera. We will eagerly be watching pages of individual performers from the List_of_male_performers_in_gay_porn_films ) for equality. Thank You. World News International (talk) 23:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

How about this instead: Help us limit the number of videos on those other performers' pages? Edit-warring here on this article doesn't help the article or the encyclopedia. But your help on the other articles would certainly be appreciated! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 23:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
We (me, myself, & I) agree. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 23:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

We respectfully request that "you" limit all the pages of individual performers from the List_of_male_performers_in_gay_porn_films ) When the rules to which you site only apply to one person it is considered to be “discrimination” . If your intention are not to discriminate against Rick Pantera then you must apply the rules to the pages of all the individual performers from the List_of_male_performers_in_gay_porn_films ) for equality. Until such an event takes place we will not discriminate against Rick Pantera. We will eagerly be watching pages of individual performers from the List_of_male_performers_in_gay_porn_films ) for equality. Thank You.World News International (talk) 23:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

per WP:IDIOT, we respectfully ask you stop repeating yourself, listen to what we have said, and help us. Look, (Aaron Austin) I've already started on the list. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 00:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
There, I fixed the first couple of guys listed on the List of male performers in gay porn films page. Now, it's your turn to help. Come on, I know you ya'll can do it!!! Sí se puede! AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 00:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

We respectfully request that you limit all the pages of individual performers from the List_of_male_performers_in_gay_porn_films ) When the rules to which you site only apply to one person it is considered to be “discrimination” . If your intention are not to discriminate against Rick Pantera then you must apply the rules to the pages of all the individual performers from the List_of_male_performers_in_gay_porn_films ) for equality. Until such an event takes place we will not discriminate against Rick Pantera. We will eagerly be watching pages of individual performers from the List_of_male_performers_in_gay_porn_films ) for equality. Thank You. World News International (talk) 00:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

As has been said, APK has begun doing exactly that. Your help in doing that, rather than merely repeating yourself here, would be appreciated! No one is discriminating against anyone. Aleta (Sing) 00:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Aleta, no need to respond to this person anymore. This is obviously a big joke to him and he has no intention of offering anything positive to this project. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 00:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the extra movie listings for all people in the "A" category on the List of male performers in gay porn films page. Someone else can do "B" and "C" and I'll do some more later. I have better things to do than remove movie listings called Bareback Bottoms from a wikipedia article all night long. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 00:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Until and unless "they" participate in the encyclopedia and edit something non-Pantera-related, I see no reason to discuss the issue any further. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 00:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
He is playing the victim now since his username was blocked. see User talk:World News International. Misleading the admin who reads that makes me irritated. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 03:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
8 inches you say? *blinks* - ✰ALLSTAR✰ echo 04:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

APK, AllStar, and others: whilst you are absolutely right about policy and the limitation, and whilst WNI is clearly (based on talk page) a representative of Rick's, might I suggest that an explanatory approach that pointed to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and some of the articles where the limits have been applied - the whole Matt Sanchez thing leaps to mind - and show that the application of policy was not and is not Rick and Rick alone might have been more effective? If you look back to my comment on the LGBT talk page, you'll see that equal coverage is likely not the only motivation here. Rather, by keeping the videography complete the possibility of confusing the recent porn star with the same nom-de-porn and this Rick is reduced. Maybe someone who knows what they are doing better than I could create the disambig page I suggested earlier, and create a stub with the other videography? Thoughts? Jay*Jay (talk) 05:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I tried pointing out some of the articles...there was even a link to an article I had just corrected. I've fixed the A's & B's on the list so far. I'll try to work on some more later today.--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 16:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Real name

The real name can NOT be given without a reliable source, as per WP:BLP and as stated at WP:WPPORN#Real names of performers. Aleta (Sing) 22:24, 11 February 2008 (UTC)