Talk:Richmond, London

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[edit] Renaming

People seem to be afraid of this one, so I made a start on it myself. Ogg 11:51, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I think the town is simply "Richmond" and that "Richmond upon Thames" was invented as the name of the London Borough when it was created. I'll try and find a source before I edit anything. DavidCh0 10:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Richmond town centre is in Surrey, being on the south bank of the Thames. "Boro of R-u-T" also covers Twickenham, etc., which is in Middlesex.Zir 01:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The Vision of Britain website seems to confirm this; the list of "Lower level units" on the following page mention "Kingston Upon Thames" and "Richmond": [1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.149.1.194 (talk • contribs) 6 October 2006.

If this is the case, and it is also supported by the Royal Mail (post town RICHMOND unlike Kingston which is KINGSTON UPON THAMES) and also the station is called Richmond (both predate the borough), this article should probably move to Richmond, London. MRSC • Talk 08:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Transport for London have the borough as Richmond upon Thames, but the location as Richmond. [2] MRSC • Talk 08:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to appeal against moving Richmond (where I live) to Richmond, London - we might be part of Greater London, but the town not in any of its London postal districts, being known as "Richmond, Surrey, TW9 or TW10" (or sometimes Richmond upon Thames*) to differentiate us from "Richmond, (North) Yorkshire" after which we were named. I don't think that we have any right to be called the latter* whereas Kingston does, its full title being "Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames " (one of three Royal Boro's).

I hate this creeping "London-isation" because it's causing other entries - "Richmond Hill" for instance - to end up being described as London, (it's not) and is just plain confusing! Grrrrrr! Zir 00:53, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Its the standard dab form for places in Greater London. It is worth noting that the "London" doesn't refer to the postal area (we don't use postal geography at all in article naming), it refers to the region (which here is London). MRSC • Talk 08:35, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Virtual Interactive Streetscapes not useful?

Virtual Interactive Streetscapes not useful?

I would like to appeal yesterday's removal of the link Virtual George Street, Richmond from this page. Up until yesterday the link had proved exceptionally useful to Wikipedia visitors for months and had taken them onto the world's only hi-res Virtual Interactive Streetscape to discover more about this road. What better way to research a street than to walk along it thanks to Wikipedia from anywhere in the world! (Boy I wish my Children's Britannica Encyclopedias had miles of virtual streetscapes when I was a kid!)

Would you be able to agree that Wikipedia users researching a city or street would find a virtual streetscape effictively allowing them to walk down that city's street useful? Is that not within the spirit of Wikipedia? This site is also recommended by the local Council's own short and carefully picked list of links.

If this is not agreed, then it raises the issue of contradicting the previous editors who felt this was within the spirit of the site, and which led to the link being in place for months. We then have a question of inconsistency and removing useful content from users.

Assuring you of my best intentions for my fellow users. --Ewik 11:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)