Talk:Richard Kuklinski

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Has anything that might make this person worthy of a Wikipedia article been corroborated outside of the HBO interviews? It seems likely to me that he is low-rent psychopath who conned HBO into thinking he was something greater than he was.

Is there a record of a mysterious crossbow murder in the 20th century?

Is there a record of poisoning deaths?

What was he sentenced for? 30 murders? 200 murders? 12 million murders? Or a couple murders and a conspiracy charge?

He is a proven liar, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.40.132 (talk) 06:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Name

The claim about Steve Austin being inspired by Kuklinski is blatantly false. Austin has said in several interviews that the name came from his wife, a British native, who was familiar with the phrase "stone cold" as opposed to the American "ice cold," and used it in reference to Austin not drinking his tea until several minutes after it had come out of the kettle, hence, letting it get "stone cold."70.241.29.250 00:48, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

He was not well-liked and he routinely physically and verbally abused his family, often threatening their lives. I'm watching a live interview with his family on CNN right now and they are discussing the fact. --72.66.4.90 01:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC) Brett George


This is true. I saw an interview with Austin and his wife where they discussed the origin of his "stage" name.

Removed the item from article.

Also, stone cold is a part of the American idiom, e.g. "stone cold" killer or "stone cold" dead. Americans never make statements like, "stone cold beer."

And we never call a tea pot anything but...a tea pot.

watch "the stone cold truth" dvd about steve austin you`d hear it from the man himself saya that he formed his wrestling persona after kuklinsky. as far as the name goes i think thats from that cheesy motorbike/ gangsta movie "stone cold" from the early 90`s. and thats the bottom line cause stone cold said so! T

[edit] Murdered for Sammy "the Bull"?

Added fact to the speculation that Kuklinski might have been murdered for potentially testifying against Sammy "the Bull" Gravano for the slaying of a police officer a quarter of a century ago. "The Bull" won't get out of prison until he's nearly 90 and, even if convincted of ordering this hit, what more punishment could possibly be inflicted? Even if sentenced to death, the odds of Gravano seeing the inside of the death chamber are ridiculously remote considering the time between a death sentence an execution is between 15 and 20 years.

Besides that, it beggers belief that the Gambino family would care about what happened to a "snitch" who had put their "don" in the gray bar hotel for life--let alone go to the trouble of arranging a murder on his behalf!

PainMan 09:37, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


It absolutely doesn't make sense PainMan and, to put it bluntly, it was one final grab at attention by Kuklinski. That anyone, whether it's the Mafia or the United States government, would assist Gravano after he betrayed them both is pretty tough to believe. In fact, there is evidence to suggest that the entire plot to frame Gravano for Calabro's murder was originally conceived by a Gambino soldier who was briefly imprisoned with Kuklinski by the name of Robert Bisaccia. More on this topic can be read at the following link: http://www.ganglandnews.com/column363.htm. Dugrad 16:31, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Re-write?

Incoherent and awkward writing style. can someone re-write?

I thought it was fine67.42.181.87 (talk) 02:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image

The mug shot in this article appears to be taken from a television frame-capture of a video recording of the actual photo. Surely, Wiki can do better than this. Can anyone procure a scan of the original mug shot? Alvis 06:25, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mister Softee

The part where it makes note about Richard Kuklinski using the Mister Softee van for some of his murders, my understanding from reading the book 'Ice Man' (Author Philip Carlo, Publishers St. Martin's Griffin (September 18, 2007 Paperback Reprint) , St. Martin's Press (July 1, 2006 Hardcover), was that Mister Softee was only used by Robert Pronge.

They may have tagged along with one another on killing sprees, but I'm pretty sure (going off memory) that Richard did not confess to using Mister Softee for his own killings.

Perhaps there may be an misunderstanding on Kuklinski's encounter of the Mister Softee era? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nez trikki (talk • contribs) 03:05, 21 May 2008 (UTC)