Talk:Richard II, Part I

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Changing "Shakespeare's Richard II, Part Two" to "Shakespeare's Richard II". The title of Shakespeare's play is Richard II, not Richard II, Part Two. If it becomes accepted that this play is by Shakespeare, then perhaps people will begin calling it part two...until then, the correct title ought to be used. Andyandy68 17:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Working on new version. WilliamKF 23:42, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi William KF-- just a comment on the existing version. The entry is very unhistorical. The fact that Rossiter opposed the view of Sh. authorship is scarcely relevant any longer in view of Egan's devastating analysis of the history of scholarship of the play. I'm leaving things unchanged for the present, but the entry is going to require much more historical precision if its to be worthy of Wikipedia.

I am removing large sections on Marlowe, editing for style, and removing the argument at the end of the article (why was an argument in the article in the first place???) Andyandy68 21:24, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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I think it's a mistake to make the main title of this article "Richard II, part 1," when (in spite of the current claim that it's the scholars' preferred term) "Thomas of Woodstock" is the one that is almost always actually used in reference to it. I just did a Google book search on "Richard II, part 1" or "part one" and got back just 4 references. "Thomas of Woodstock" (with the word drama thrown into the search to eliminate references to the historical personage) comes back with 314 references. Thomas of Woodstock is what this article should properly be called. Right now, it's trying way too hard to tie it to Shakespeare's cart. 69.227.126.241 12:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

  • I'd support that move. Other than this page, I have only seen the play referred to as Richard II, Part 1 by a scholar who argues for Shakespeare's authorship, a minority position. AndyJones 13:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)