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This article includes text from the public domain Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships.

This is copied from http://navysite.de/ffg/FFG20.HTM, which claims that its material is copyrighted. -- Zoe

I am very impressed by how quickly you hurl accusations, Zoe. However, your accusation is entirely untrue. It is not copied from "navysite.de." This article is from the public domain Dictionary of American Fighting Ships, Vol. A, published by the Navy Department, Office of the Chief of Naval Operations, Naval History Division, Washington, D.C. The claim of copyright on "navysite.de," like your accusation, is entirely fallacious. --the Epopt 06:02 18 May 2003 (UTC)

So are you saying that the link that I posted above does not link to an article that is word-for-word from this article? Do you have a link to the article you claim is the original? Note: I did not delete this page nor even put "copyright violation" on it. I was asking for further information. Note further that I said that the navysite.de site claims that its material is copyrighted. DO NOT CALL ME A LIAR!!!!!

The statement "This is copied from http://navysite.de/ffg/FFG20.HTM" is untrue. --the Epopt 06:13 18 May 2003 (UTC)

Calm down both of you. The Epopt, you should have done the academically correct thing to begin with and give credit to the Dictionary of American Fighting Ships. If you had done so then Zoe would not have suspected a copyright violation. And Zoe, please give people the benefit of the doubt in the future by not stating as fact that somebody did something wrong. I used to do this with copyright violation notices but soon found out that a good third of the time the text was originally in the public domain or the person submitting the text was the original author. --mav

Point taken, mav. I've given credit to DANFS on many of the articles based on it, but forgotten on many others. I will no longer make that mistake. --the Epopt 06:27 18 May 2003 (UTC)

I have asked, over and over again, on article after article, "Is this original work"? And have only gotten responses on maybe two or three. What is the alternative if the author doesn't respond? -- Zoe

If they don't respond then place the possible copyright violation notice on the page and list the page on VfD for a week. If they still haven't responded by then then the article will be deleted. --mav

[edit] WP:MilHist Assessment

A long, detailed article, I place this one at the very top of the Start-class, on the edge with B-class. The infobox needs a picture, if one can be found, and a little tweaking in the wars & battles section. (It might be as simple as removing or adding a square bracket, but I'm not sure what was intended by the author to be put there, so I'm not touching it.) And the article on the whole, as with most articles, could benefit from some expansion, if there is anything to be added. The sections are dense, very detailed, well-written and meaningful, but ultimately not that long. LordAmeth 11:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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