Talk:Rich Mullins
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[edit] Vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience
OK Folks, There is no record of Mullins taking vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience. "Sources" that have been offered are referring to St. Francis of Assisi (sp?) taking those vows, NOT Mullins. This article also states that the kid brothers of St. Frank all took these vows, but Beaker is married. I also recall Mullins having a girlfriend if I remember correctly, and he wrote the song "The River" which would suggest chastity was not for him. Please stop adding incorrect information to this article. I'll keep removing it until we get a source, but I don't think we're going to find one because it just isn't true.
There is reference to this in the Homeless Man documentary. One of the kids that participated mentions it. You can catch it on you tube.
Chastity for single people refers to abstinence, for married people its fidelity.
And - not disagreeing - but the logic that he wrote "The River" suggesting singleness wasn't for him is silly. People change. 20: Countdown remember Rich mullins has plenty of direct quote from him about how he came to the point of believing that he was going to be single for the later part of his life.
[edit] RE: NPoV
Where is it in this article? Sontra 22:53, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
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Does anyone know where the biographical information for this article came from? Jason.ingalls 19:43, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Re; question
Regarding your question about the source for this page. Most of this was probably taken from one of the linked websites. The language is familiar - it may be from one of the CCM articles about Rich after his death. There isn't really anything on this page that I haven't seen before. I can tell you that several of the quotes are from the Lufkin, Texas concert that is available on video. (By the way, I was at that concert.) I came to this site because I caught the tail end of a discussion thread about this on the Rich Mullins discussion group. Do you know what they are up in arms about? Martymar 01:42, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC) ____
- Thanks! I'm not sure why that group would be up in arms. Could you send along the link so I could take a look? -J. Ingalls 02:19, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Discography
Some of those relases are compilations and should be separated or identified in some way as compilations. --Walter Görlitz 21:06, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Quotes
A source for the quotes would be good. Coffeeboy 20:57, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] here in america
who has recored the album "here in america" released in 2003? Sucrine ( ><> talk) 21:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] No Kansas?
As someone who went to church with Rich, and spoke with him on occasion, I was surprised to find no mention in this article of his love for Kansas and the area around Wichita, including the flint hills... However, I don't have any sources for this other than my own conversations with him. His song "calling out your name" is all about this, and the ending shots for his music video "creed" pretty much communicate his affection for the area. Anyone else have any books or anything that mention this? ----Steve 22:21, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- I read a lot of music transcripts about his love for Kansas. Check them out at www.kidbrothers.net.
[edit] Step By Step
This article keeps getting changed from referring to "Step By Step" (performed on The World As Best... volume 1) with the reason that Mullins didn't write it. It should not be changed unless the context of the statement is changed. As it stands it doesn't try to purport that Mullins wrote both songs, or even that they were his biggest hits, only that those are the ones for which he "is best known".
This was changed again. It's not a mistake. "Step By Step" is the title of the praise chorus. "Sometimes By Step" was written later and incorporated the same chorus, and although the latter may have received more radio airtime, the original chorus is still far more widely known, particularly in the context of the statement as it stands. Please don't change it back. HokieRNB 17:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry about that mistaken edit, Hokie. I should have checked the discussion page first, but was completely unaware that the chorus was separate from the song and just assumed a wrong title. I modified it again in a way that should clarify the difference and prevent future mistaken edits like mine. It might need further modification for clarity though, as the link for "Awesome God" points to the page for the song rather than to one specific to the chorus. -- Aubee91 (talk) 00:56, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Collaborations
Rich Mullins sang (and maybe played guitar/maybe co-wrote the song?) on the Hokus Pick song 'I Believe' from their album Brothers from Different Mothers. I'm not sure where to integrate this into the article.
[edit] Broken Link
The external link "Obituary at Catholic World News" is no longer valid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.253.124.99 (talk) 03:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)