Talk:Rhydian Roberts

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[edit] Comment

He deserves his own page now he's in the final. Content can be updated. Sanjaya Malakar (7th place American Idol) has his own page. Other X-Factor finalists from previous seasons have their own page. Lilana (talk) 17:13, 15 December 2007 (UTC)Lilana

The notable ones have their own pages. Leona Lewis didn't have her own page until she won the show. Ray Quinn didn't have a page until he released his album. Sanjaya Malakar has released songs. I'll let you keep the page for now and if he wins I'll clean it up. If he doesn't, I'll consider listing it for deletion but I'll see how it goes. anemone│projectors 18:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
It does seem a little odd to me to delete the entry just to reinstate it later once a song is released but if that's the rule then fine.Lilana (talk) 23:29, 15 December 2007 (UTC)Lilana
He might never release anything. anemone│projectors 23:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Rhydian has been signed for an album deal now so will definitely be releasing music and have a tour.Lilana (talk) 15:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)Lilana
He didn't win, this page should be deleted because he isn't a notable person and hasn't had a song out yet. 12bigbrother12 (talk) 22:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Voice

He's a tenor, not a baritone. In the contest he regularly sings a tenor top A, well beyond the range of a baritone. 88.109.222.88 (talk) 23:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

No, he's a baritone. Just because he can sing high notes doesn't mean he should be classified as a tenor. Not everybody is restricted to a particular range - the voice type is merely the most common range in which a singer sings, and his normal range is considerably lower than that of a tenor. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


I've got to agree with the first person. To classify someone as a baritone when he can hit a high B flat are ridiculous. His upper register is his stronger point, so personally I think he should be classified as a tenor. I don't know what his exact range his, but on "You Raise Me Up" he did hit a B flat and who knows, maybe he can go even higher. I'd agree more along the lines that he's a tenor. Just my opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.16.56.57 (talk) 06:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. No piece that requires a top A (or Bb)could possibly be considered baritone territory. Further, a tenor need not employ the highest reaches of his tessitura to be considered a tenor, as pieces in the standard tenor repertoir saves top tenor notes for its climaxes and for points of emphasis (just as in the arrangements he sings). A singer need not be required to make constant use of notes above F# to be called a tenor. Further, he never makes use of notes below bottom tenor C, which would be required for him to be considered a true baritone. Me thinks this is someone getting protective over his voice type. Reverted. 88.109.12.214 (talk) 23:01, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

As nobody seems to be able to agree what his voice type is, I have removed it. Find a source if you want to add it. Otherwise it is considered original research and will be removed in future unless it is sourced. anemone│projectors 20:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

As "baritone" has crept back in I checked it. ITV's X Factor website says "Rhydian is a classical baritone singer". Unless a contradictory reference is found I think that should settle the matter. Ros0709 (talk) 21:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Well done :) anemone│projectors 01:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I found another source for this information as well which contains a direct quote from Rhydian - "I’m a big Meatloaf fan too, we’ve both got that kind of quasi-opera thing going on – although he’s a tenor and I’m a baritone.” (The article is about Meatloaf songwriter signing on to work on Rhydian's album) icWales:"Meatloaf writer signs up for Rhydian album" -HeavenlyEire (talk) 09:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)