Talk:Rhinelandic

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 11 May 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

I wish to register scepticism about the value of this article:

  1. It treats as a single dialect area a region split by two major isoglosses, and seems not to see this as a problem.
  2. It is not NPOV about the so-called "German defintion"
  3. The tone of the article does not inspire confidence: the statement "those dialects have nothing in common except one single word (ich)"; "The Benrather Linie, one of the isoglosses most frequently mentioned in books" !!
  4. It matches no equivalent article in German, and the nearest Dutch article http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rijnlands, which is not linked, doesn't seem to offer any support for this one.
  5. Finally, it offers no sources to allay those reservations.

There might be useful information here, but I guess Limburgisch would be a better place for it. --Pfold 22:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree. There are no sources cited, and the article sounds very much like it's arguing for a specific analysis. That's both original research and non-NPOV. I'm tagging it as such now. Angr 21:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

This article is a joke, as is the one on the Aachen dialect. Both are so thoroughly non-factual that they ought to simply be removed. This article contains untruths and it is disorganized. The comments about the "pitch accents" are not true and are obviously written by someone who has no idea what they are all about. The article contains a lot of useless rambling. Lufiend 03:00, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Usage of the term Rhinelandic

I don't know whether it is actually the same as the German Rheinisch. Could someone find a deifinition of the English term ? Sarcelles 17:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

It is not the same, it even hardly has anything in common with it.
Currently, there are three hardly related meanings listed in the linked de:Rheinische Sprache (i.e. Rhinelandic language):
  1. Rhinelandic accent
  2. Regiolect of the central Rhineland - in German de:Rheinischer Regiolekt
  3. Rhinelandic local languages, or Local languages of the Central Rhineland - corresponds to various individual and dialect group articles in the German Wikipedia, plus some ones about their specific, and common, linguistic properties, etc.. This is at the moment a field of hopelessly incomplete coverage. Best to begin with the existing: de:Category:Ripuarischer Dialekt, de:Mitteldeutscher Dialekt, de:Mitteldeutsche Sprachen und Dialekte, de:Bergische Dialekte, de:Eifler Mundart, de:Hunsrückisch, de:Kurpfälzische Dialekte, de:Luxemburgische Sprache, de:Mannemerisch, de:Mittelfränkisch, de:Mölmsch, de:Moselfränkische Dialektgruppe, de:Pfälzer Mundartdichter, de:Liste der Pfälzer Mundartdichter, de:Pfälzische Dialekte, de:Pfälzische Sprachinsel am Niederrhein, de:Rheinhessischer Dialekt, de:Ripuarische Dialektgruppe, de:Saarländischer Dialekt, de:Siegerländer Platt, de:Süd-Rheinfränkische Dialektgruppe, de:Trierisch, de:Vorderpfälzische Dialektgruppe, de:Westmitteldeutsche Sprachen, de:Westpfälzische Dialektgruppe, de:Das-dat-Linie, de:Vinxtbachinie, de:Benrather Linie, de:Uerdinger Linie, de:Einheitsplural-Linie, de:Deutsche Mundarten, de:Deutscher Sprachatlas, de:Dialekte in Nordrhein-Westfalen, de:Dialekte in Rheinland-Pfalz, de:Fränkische Sprachen, de:Gemmenicher Platt, de:Klevisch-Weselisch, de:Krieewelsch, de:Mittelrheinischer Sprachatlas, de:Mundartwettstreit, de:Niederrheinische Sprache, de:Mundarten in Oberberg, de:Ostbergisch, de:Rheinfränkisch, de:Rheinische Dokumenta, de:Rheinische Verlaufsform, de:Rheinischer Regiolekt, de:Rheinisches Mitmachwörterbuch, de:Rheinmaasländisch, de:Ruhrdeutsch, de:Südwestdeutscher Sprachatlas, de:Bergische Dialekte, de:Düsseldorfer Platt, de:Gronings, de:Hötter Platt, de:Kleverländisch, de:Liste niederdeutscher Dialekte, de:Mölmsch, de:Münsterländer Platt, de:Nederlands Nedersaksisch, de:Stadsgronings, de:Twents, de:Velberter Platt, de:Ripuarisch-Limburgisch, de:Bönnsch, de:Dürener Platt, de:Düsseldorfer Platt, de:Eischwiele Platt, de:Kölsch (Sprache), de:Öcher Platt, de:Düsseldorver Rheinisch. This list is incomplete, and includes few artices of likely peripheral interest which nevertheless may give hints on missing ones.
This article stub to some extent matches the 3rd. -- Purodha Blissenbach (talk) 15:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)