Talk:Rheingold Beer
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[edit] Copyrights do not expire
Regardless of corporate existance or continuation, copyrights do not require renewal. The commercial in question may very well have had it's copyright expire, but the reason presented is not accurate. Hipocrite - «Talk» 18:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Minor correction - this commercial would have required a 1 time renewal. How do we know this was not done? Hipocrite - «Talk» 18:50, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- The problem with this link is that we are expected to guess whether its PD or not and this depends on whether the company renewed the copyright. Does anyone know when the company went belly up? In the meantime I reverted to the definately non-copyvio state. --Spartaz 19:07, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- I think WP:ACP applies in this case. Hipocrite - «Talk» 19:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Probably but it would be nice if someone actually recorded their research on the talk page so we have a record of why it applies. --Spartaz 19:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Bingo. --Milo H Minderbinder 19:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Verified PD -> http://www.archive.org/details/ClassicT1948_8. Hipocrite - «Talk» 19:18, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Bingo. --Milo H Minderbinder 19:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Probably but it would be nice if someone actually recorded their research on the talk page so we have a record of why it applies. --Spartaz 19:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Neet... But were all missing part of the issue: the video is broken. The last part of the video is corrupted. Why bother linking to a corrupted video anyway? ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 19:19, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- Can someone check? Maybe the archive.org version is compleate. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 19:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see the Rheingold commercial at all in the archive.org file. Has anyone confirmed to make sure it's actually in there, or did you just go by the text list along with it (which looks to be for all 8 parts, not just the one linked)? --Milo H Minderbinder 20:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's not in the newer link, either. Until someone finds it and confirms it, I've switched back to youtube. --Milo H Minderbinder 00:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's definetly at the end of the newest link. Sorry. Hipocrite - «Talk» 01:43, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's not in the newer link, either. Until someone finds it and confirms it, I've switched back to youtube. --Milo H Minderbinder 00:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see the Rheingold commercial at all in the archive.org file. Has anyone confirmed to make sure it's actually in there, or did you just go by the text list along with it (which looks to be for all 8 parts, not just the one linked)? --Milo H Minderbinder 20:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Miss Rheingold interview
I put this in EL instead of using it as a source because: 1)While there is a precedent for using this blog, The Black Table, as a source on Wikipedia Turducken--and it is an established blog which publishes established writers--it's still a blog without much name recognition outside of NYC. 2. The interview is mostly of interest for "further reading"--any number of quotes or factoids could be plucked from this and used in the article, but it's simpler to put it here rather than use one or two quotes and cite such a long piece numerous times. 3. While the interviewer provides a lot of interesting information, details, quotes, pics, he also writes subjectively/autobiographically--he's a reliable source about Miss Rheingold, but he's also a reliable source about his smutty interest in Miss Rheingold. Since the article is not about him and who he wants to have sex with, that blurs RS-for-Rheingold enough that this probably shouldn't be a source even though it's a valuable EL--just my judgement call; feel free to disagree about whether it should be a source, or whether it should be here at all.-Cindery 23:12, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
...and, may not have been used as reference at Turducken--unclear. (Turducken, although it has been cited by the press, has no sources. Someone who is not a vegan should go help that article out...)-Cindery 23:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Rheingold jingle and catch-phrase
As a child in the 1950's, I remember two things in particular about Rheingold beer. First, there was the jingle (to the tune of the Estudiantina Waltz), whose lyrics went "My beer is Rheingold, the DRY beer. / Think of Rheingold whenever you BUY beer. / It's not bitter, not sweet, / extra-dry flavor treat. / Won't you try / extra-dry / Rheingold beer." That jingle was graven into the heads of a whole generation.
I see the article is followed by a cross-reference to the article on Estudiantina Waltz, and the latter does mention the jingle and quote the lyrics in full. Yet maybe this should be done in the article itself, since the lyrics as well as the setting became for a time so familiar. Ditto the Rheingold signature phrase "extra dry". Tom129.93.17.174 03:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New York only? Nope!
I know for sure Rheingold wasn't limited to New York. In the 1950's, when I was a kid in California, my family watched a weekly TV show whose sponsor was Rheingold. Unfortunately I can't remember what show it was. But I grew up very familiar with Rheingold commercials, yet I didn't visit New York until I was 47. Tom129.93.17.174 03:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
