User talk:Rhanyeia

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[edit] Welcome

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Darn it 3 Thank you for the barnstar 4 Calceolaria 5 Userbox deletion 6 Pictures not appearing 7 Thanks for the Barnstar 8 Afwillite and Portland cement 9 Edit 10 Girllover userbox 11 AFD Barnstar 12 Shinto Barnstar 13 Homeopathy article probation 14 Homeopathy 15 Pyrite 16 Loriga's coat of arms 17 MFD prerequisites edits 18 CoArms 19 Signitures 20 Communication 21 Consensus - bullet points

I removed a barnstar from here because that account was blocked for sock puppetry. Rhanyeia 13:09, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Darn it

Someone got to you already I see, I was gonna give you shiny, but I will just say neat barnstar.

IvoShandor 09:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for the barnstar

You made my day!--Kubigula (talk) 17:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Calceolaria

Thanks. In general you should probably not have posted the whole Botanica on my talk page, although you've fully attributed it, and it is a short passage. I will look over and compare the two when I get a moment and make general comments about how to approach entries from them in the future, as they are a good source for obscure plants that are cultivated. Good idea, though, just to post me the text, so we can sort it out. KP Botany 15:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I looked it over. See how I changed it. There are certain things that are basic to botanical descriptions that will make parts of different articles about the plant sound quite a bit alike, though. KP Botany 15:53, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm grateful for help. :) Maybe some things like "bright yellow" and "heart-shaped" were really too close. Sometimes I have not done so and changed them more. Can you look at this please, I wrote about Calceolaria integrifolia: "Its leaves are little sticky and have a lot of veins and a peculiar texture resembling a seersucker." The original text goes: "It has closely veined, slightly sticky leaves with an attractive, fine 'seersucker' texture, but is prone to insect damage." (Botanica p. 167) I could drop out the whole talk about "seersucker" if you think it's too much. Best regards Rhanyeia 17:41, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I looked at some earlier pages thinking should I change something and made already couple of small changes. I'm not sure if you are too strict about some things though. To use not the same keywords sometimes or any same phrases can lead the information to change, and then it is not correct to reference it to that source anymore. There is some balanced middle way which I have tried to find, but I think I may have been a little too close sometimes. Best regards Rhanyeia 18:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I had often taken the color names exactly because I am interested in colors and thought it may be important which exact shade it is. :) I changed them. Thank you for your help. :) Best regards Rhanyeia 19:41, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

If you only have one source, and it's a brief source, consider just making a one or two sentence stub--this is really sufficient for putting taxa up for now. Are you checking the names to make sure they are current, as Botanica is not generally current on names. In addition, you should be checking families (I know Botanica doesn't list them in the articles, just in the back, but in case you are getting them from Botanica). I will look. If five sources say "bright yellow" go with it, otherise you pretty much have to just say "yellow," unfortunately. I like precision in colors, in general, though, so when there is a qualifier on the color, I try to find multiple sources. This is usually hard. For the Calceolaria integrifolia, I would actually call the flowers dark or deep yellow, not bright yellow. They are almost exactly the color in the photograph. KP Botany 00:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

PS Try using <blockquote> </blockquote> when you quote text, because it's easier for the reader to follow what you are quoting and what you are not quoting. On the Wikipedia screens on some computers (I'm using an ancient machine right now) this can be really bad. I only notice that I need to use it when I'm using this machine, though. Cheers. KP Botany 18:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I may not know if some plant name synonym isn't current because the Botanica I have is already quite recent, but if you have a source to add somewhere "previously known" I'm grateful for corrections. :) I have used only family information which was already here. I think what to do with the colors may also depend on a plant and its shade. I had to leave on one page bronzy red because it would have been a mistake to call those leaves red. One plant has lemon yellow flowers and I think lemon yellow is quite usual color name and it would be fine to use it. What do you think? Best regards Rhanyeia 13:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, "lemon yellow" is an established color name, like "apple green," with high recognition value, so it would be fine to use it, and, imo, probably original research to change it without additional references. I would put "bronzy red" in quotes. And, again, this is a difficult one, because when someone is this specific and you know color values well enough to know the what a bronzy red is, you know there's no other equivalent. That's a might impressive cleanup of my user page!!!!!!! KP Botany 23:15, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

What I remembered to be bronzy red was bronze red but I'm not sure if that makes a difference. I guess I could place it in quotes unless you say something else. I wonder if some same color names with different spelling like bronze red and rose pink are more established with "e" in the end than "y", what do you think? I hope you understood that the user page thing was a friend's action. :) Best regards Rhanyeia 10:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Probably "e" rather than "y," but unless you use just bronze, or can find multiple sources, my take, from an English language perspective is the color, though specific, is infrequently described in the literature and would require quotation marks. Yes, I understood your intentions on my user page, and am fine with it, and appreciative--my user page is rather well guarded against vandalism, and no one reverted you, as it was clear to all what you were doing. I have no page layout skills whatsoever. I can see your issues with the omissions, also. KP Botany 02:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. :) I fixed bronze red as you advised me. Best regards Rhanyeia 14:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox deletion

I just wanted to stop by and clarify that I'm not trying to insult or demean you (or even KP Botany) in the discussion about the userbox. If I offended or insulted you personally, I apologize, and that was never my intention. Best Wishes, Jay 19:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for coming here. :) You have not insulted me. Best regards Rhanyeia 13:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For never descending to the fracas. KP Botany 20:31, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't realize this was you, Rhanyeia--you were rather determined to clean up my user page, weren't you? Nice job on the nomination and getting this crud deleted, particularly that you were never inflammatory to other users no matter the issue. Keep acting like this on Wikipedia, please, as it is good for the community and few users realize how important doing things "good for the community" are when you are counting on the community to do the work. Thanks. KP Botany 20:31, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Rhanyeia 11:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures not appearing

The thing to do is to go to the image page, click on edit, then go up to the url, and where it says "action=edit", change it to "action=purge". Hesperian 12:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I tried to do it on Commons and I couldn't get the pictures back, but I found messages that there has been some difficulties with images since yesterday, and they are trying to fix it. Best regards Rhanyeia 15:49, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the Barnstar

Thank you for the barnstar. Out of all the barnstars I have received this one means the most. It is the only one I ever really wanted, considering the amount of time I have committed to taking photos, I think it was well earned. Thank you so much. Also notice my user page is back in action. IvoShandor (talk) 17:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Many of your photos are great. :) Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 14:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Afwillite and Portland cement

Thanks for fixing those refs on the afwillite article - I was going to do it, but got sidetracked :-) more to do on that article ... later. Also, I note that you have added Crw19's afwillite bit to Portland cement - I'm no cement expert, but methinks Crw19 did a bit of synthesizing there and it needs checking. Afwillite is quite rare as a mineral and unlikely to be a valid resource or raw material. Rather, afwillite occurs as a product in the setting of cement. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 18:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Portland cement is not something I have knowledge about, but I thought because that was sourced it could be placed there. Do whatever you like with it. :) Maybe if afwillite was briefly mentioned in that article among some other minerals? Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 17:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit

Hi. When you fix vandalism, please revert rather than editing. In this edit you "fixed" vandalism that had happened earlier in the day, by guessing that the vandal had just deleted a couple characters. In fact, the vandal had deleted several lines. Your edit merely masked the fact that the article had been vandalized, making it less likely that other editors would catch it. --Srleffler (talk) 18:31, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought it wasn't vandalism. I thought it was edited out because the last part of it was written so complicatedly that it was very difficult to read, and the first sentence didn't say much new to the article. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 18:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Girllover userbox

I have posted on AN/I, wikipedia will not tolerate pedophiles identifying and advocating criminal acts. Just letting you know. Thanks, SqueakBox 17:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not a criminal act to be a pedophile, and neither is it to be proud of that fact. You sell your petty moral prejudice as some kind of devine wikified justice. It is nothing but mob-mentality. -Ados (talk) 17:54, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

But it is prohibited on wikipedia. You can write to the arbitration committee. My advice is to not mention the issue again on wikipedia. Thanks, SqueakBox 18:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you SqueakBox. :) Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 19:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AFD Barnstar

Actually, I was just trying to make the "AFD" stand out a little more, not like a bomb. STORMTRACKER 94 19:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes that's how I understood it and I like the image. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 08:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shinto Barnstar

Thank you for your comments, I will change the color right away! I am yet to upload some more barnstars I made, but I will take care of this first. Thanks, Rbpolsen (talk) 16:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC).

Thank you, the new Shinto star looks good. :) Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 16:16, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Homeopathy article probation

Please read Talk:Homeopathy/Article probation. Jehochman ^Talk 14:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for informing me. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 14:12, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Be careful not to get caught in the middle. I suggest carefully discussing any change that might be controversial, and when you discuss, be careful not to engage in wiki-lawyering. There are a lot of bad examples on that talk page. I hope you will not follow them. Jehochman ^Talk 14:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your advices. :) Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 14:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Homeopathy

I've rearranged the images a little bit, to try and "space them out" a bit more evenly throughout the article. I put yours next to the section on "remedies", but swap yours and the one currently at the top if you like. It probably doesn't matter, but I thought it might work well next to the text on the wide variety of remedies used. Adam Cuerden ^talk 14:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the message. :) I've found one more picture which is a good example of how they can look like and arrange a bit. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 16:26, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

That works! Thanks! =) Adam Cuerden ^talk 16:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pyrite

THanks for the note. I'll redo what you tried to do, despite me. --Smokefoot (talk) 13:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 16:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Loriga's coat of arms

Hello. The picture there is the only coat of arms that Loriga has. Right now I don't have much time to write but, as soon as I can, I'll explain myself better. I'll leave you some links where you can see for yourself the coat of arms used by Loriga's administrative and representative institutions:

• [1] - District of Guarda fire corporations
• [2] - Flag of the Loriga's fireman
• [3] - J.F.Loriga
• [4] - Parishes' newspaper
• [5] - Loriga's Formal Opinion Movement (a small association which criticizes the town current policy by giving alternatives).

I'm so sorry for my poor translations but I'll come back and re-write this in a "readable way" as soon as I can, and let the same text in the discussion page where you left your question. Bye. Septrya (talk) 20:13, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the links. :) This is not a known topic for me but I'd like to learn what's happening. I guess we could continue on Loriga's talk page. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 09:39, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MFD prerequisites edits

Heya! Could you please explain which loopholes you see in the other direction, at:

Wikipedia_talk:MFD#Hardening_the_language

Thank you very much. :-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 20:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC) .

[edit] CoArms

Hello. As usual, I don't have much time. First, thank you for puting back the words I took back. I took them with the intention to place them where you did but only the text in English but, while I was searching for the "Not signed" definition, I must have lost myself reading something else and completely forgot to go back.

I will erase his text in portuguese because it has many mistakes and here it's enough to have the text in English.

Keep in mind: he (the guy behind the IP vandalism and texts also the owner of the MSN/LiveSpace Loriga's webpages) will write fake comments under his own IP, as he does in many wiki-article – some in capital letters to shout better. He’s known to trash all pages and visit books where he passes, leaving comments signed under fake names always congratulating him for his words. He's "Ricky" and "Jose Galvão". Any true José would know how to spell his own name and living in Loriga couldn't use an IP from the Leiria region. It's easy to see if it's him by his 2 IP range and by the way he writes never leaving a space,after,a,comma.

While I was searching for other information on Loriga, you can't imagine the times I saw "Ricky's" text. He left it in all places where Loriga is mentioned. He's a troll. What he's going to do (and did) is to copy/paste his words to pages he can find with the word Loriga (Ray Loriga or a user named Loriga will do). He doesn't want to prove a point, he wants to be seen.

I didn't put the next text in the discussion page but if you think it's relevant, I'll write it.

As I was told, Loriga’s CoA was legal by the time it was created (in the early ‘80s). In the 90’s there were some proposals to a new CoA because some people didn't like the cross (which symbolizes the village's faith) but none had the consensus of the Junta.
The last proposal, the same shown in all those deceitful WebPages you saw, was rejected by the Junta de Freguesia because (somehow) it doesn’t reflect the village’s history, bearing an armor that the author says it is the origin of Loriga’s name (Lorica). The armor that appears is a lorica segmentata, one of the most common roman armors. The problem is that it was named so only in the XVI century and no one knows the exact name given to that specific armor by the time that Loriga was just Lorica, therefore Loriga can’t bear that in a future CoA because it’s pretty questionable.
The CoA can’t be illegal because it represents the village and it's in all documents from the Junta de Freguesia.
So, in my opinion, the problem isn’t in the CoA but in the man that fought to see the last proposal approved, and after a NO, keeps struggling to be seen in the worst possible way, trashing all pages, visit books and forums where he passes by, saying that the CoA isn’t legal. He’s a troll that wants to keep this discussion alive because any publicity is good publicity. Septrya (talk) 08:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Only after this was told to me, I understood better why he mistreats so many people, putting them down whenever and wherever he cans.

I hope you can understand all this spaghetti-rush-english that I use. Best regards.Septrya (talk) 08:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, thank you for the message. :) Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 16:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Signitures

Hi there, I noticed alot of people have the cool font and/or symbols in there sigs, well i made this one for myself ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ(^Ταλκ/_{ΚΩΝΤΡΙΒΣ}) but i dont know how to make it my default sig so when i do 4 ~'s thats what i will get, help? :) thanks Terrasidius (talk) 05:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

EDIT, its cool i think i got it, in preferences, lol. although i had to shorten it a bit by taking out the "contribs" bit. :( is there anyway id be able to keep that bit? ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ(^Ταλκ) 05:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia:Signatures there's a maximum length which can't be exceeded. The same guideline instructs to use normal Latin letters in the signature at least partly because they are more readable. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 18:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Lol thanks! I adore Latin, my fave langauge, it came from a mixture of Etruscan and Greek, the latter of which came from Phoenicean which in turn came from Persian and the other semetic languages, obviously though the one that directly influenced Latin was Etruscan. :) awesome! (my sig is Terrasidius in greek and Talk spelled the english way with the corresponding greek letters) :) thanks again for your help! ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ(^Ταλκ) 00:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Communication

Hello! It would be rather nice if you would actually explain your actions at Wikipedia talk:Consensus, as that would facilitate the formation of consensus you see.

There are currently 3 different sections that have been started as a consequence of your edits. You may want to contribute to those? :-) Wikipedia_talk:Consensus#Wider_vs_narrower_consensus, Wikipedia_talk:Consensus#Global_consensus_cycle, Wikipedia_talk:Consensus#Edit.2C_don.27t_remove.

--Kim Bruning (talk) 18:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

ps. I was a tad sleepy when I wrote that, so I didn't use so many words, but your input would truly be appreciated, of course! :-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 12:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the message. I left a couple of messages on that talk page and I hope to get back either tomorrow or the day after, but I'm unfortunately quite busy at the moment. You've been making a lot of policy edits quite fast, please be patient if there are sometimes reverts too, and in those cases it would be helpful if you wrote shortly on the talk page what you hope to change in the policy text and for what reason(s). Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 22:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I think that you are communicating well and doing a great job. Re: [6], I'm with you on that, but could you be a bit more concise and mention consensus? Cheers! --Kevin Murray (talk) 13:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

We have now both edited it after your message and I think your edit improved it. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 18:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Kim is back to fussing with our work at Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines. I'm unable to procede there until tomorrow due to a potential technical violation of 3RR. You've got good ideas! --Kevin Murray (talk) 21:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll waive 3RR if you like (can I do that?) hmph, maybe not, but I can make your edits for you if you like. Are you sure you're reverting, or just editing? Editing is fine and doesn't count towards 3RR. :-) (I've also left a note on the talk page). --Kim Bruning (talk) 21:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

"I think it wasn't clear"...is -ironically- not a very clear edit summary. Could you please clarify in detail what is not clear, why it is not clear, and why this lack of clarity could not be fixed by yourself (thus requiring outright removal of text?) Thank you! --Kim Bruning (talk) 19:18, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I could write there why I have found some certain added sentence not clear. However, there are now talk page messages that the policy page could stabilize for a moment, so it might not be the best idea to try to get something new there now. I'm likely to follow the discussion on that talk page. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 14:51, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Write it on the talk page. Or write it here, but whatever you do, do write it. :-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 22:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I left a message about it there. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 07:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Consensus - bullet points

Hi. I preferred the bullet points in the section that you condensed back to a sentence, but I'd like to remain on the sidelines for a while. I think that the advantage is greater clarity. Talk to you soon. --Kevin Murray (talk) 14:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)