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I am sick and fed up with people who leave a message here about an article and fail to provide a wikilink to the article. How do you expect me to read the article if you don't link to it?
I reserve the right to ignore any message which does not provide links where appropriate or has not been signed with ~~~~. Even if the article has been deleted, you should still link to it.
And if that sounds like a grumpy old man, it's because I am ...

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[edit] Narborough & Littlethorpe

Just a few quick point, I've spent a fair bit of time adding bits and bobs to the various pages however I find it quite disheartening to see all of work undone. In theory very few people are going to look at these pages, most will be local people, however one chap who I gave the address to was very disappointed to see work undone. So annoyed he rang me up to tell me! The attempt with All Saints church is to provide people with a bit of history when I get chance to do so, however most people in the area are most interested in whats going on, the information provided was aimed to provide some use to local people. Im trying to encourage people to work on it, however I think they'd feel the same seeing hard work undone in such a way, as I said before it is disheartening. Some of the stuff on pages I've added to aren't my responsibilily eg the co-ordinates. I thought that was a bit extreme myself. I hadn't touched the page apart from adding a link and a photo.

Chris T

[edit] Request for Comment on User:Futureobservatory

Hello! I saw you reported some copyright violation [1] by User:Futureobservatory, maybe you want to have a look at a RfC I filed against him? Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Futureobservatory

Thank you. Flammifer 04:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Media freedom in Pakistan

I took a closer look and actually the content is a copy and paste from a website that claims a copyright. So I have flagged it as a copyright violation. I have mentioned this in the table on Wikipedia talk:Mass communication in Pakistan and will try to look into the other articles when I get home from work. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. --W.marsh 14:56, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks. It looks better if more than one editor is on their backs. -- RHaworth 14:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I've now deleted this article as it had been flagged as a copyvio for 7 days with no sign of it being resolved. Kcordina Talk 08:16, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fixed the issues...

Sorry for the typo on the title of the document I was working on, and thank you for switching it over to the correct one.

Fixed the "all caps" issue, also.

Still a little new to all this. ?Welcome? :) allamericanbear 17:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Nagaraj

Q:What is the relationship between user:Netgir netgir/user:NETGIR NETGIR and yourself? They have already made inept and unsuccessful attempts to put up an article about this Nagaraja guy. If you want your article M.T.B. Nagaraj to stick, you will have to do more work on it:

  • Establish his importance within the first two sentences: does in his early days in school he was naughty suggest a notable person to you?
  • Learn to put a space after a full stop!

-- RHaworth 17:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Re:Hello, First i would suggest you mind your language, your langauage is bit rude, and is as if i have made a big mistake, i don't know who user:Netgir netgir/user:NETGIR NETGIR is, i just put the things in place and cleaned it up about M.T.B. Nagaraj as it was inserted into the article which i started, i dont' mind if you or somebody want to remove it.
    • About establishing importance, i did not write the article, i suggeat u read my other articles to know about the importance.
    • Again about full Stop i suggest u read my other articles and probably u will know my command over english.user:Ganesha1

I am very sorry but I feel you are over-sensitive - my message may have been firm but in what earthly respect is it rude? As a matter of interest, in which article that you have edited, did the M.T.B. Nagaraj text first appear? Which of your articles establishes the importance of M.T.B. Nagaraj? Re space after full stop: the edit history shows you as the creator of the article, therefore other editors will think that you are claiming authorship and will hold you responsible for the format. It would have been more honest of you to say in the edit summary "copied from ... - don't blame me for the formatting"! -- RHaworth 16:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protected page

Thanks for protecting Tourette's Guy: the same situation occurs frequently with another page, Tourettes Guy, in spite of its AfD. Would it be possible to do the same on that page ??? Here is its AfD [2]. Sandy 23:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tourette's Guy

I don't agree in removing Tourette's Guy. I think that he is clearly famous enough. Why did you remove him? Please let me know.--Poop Head 21:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm still waiting. Poop Head 23:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

  • The article, under three title variants has been deleted a total of seventeen times. In deleting it I was merely following precedent. I have no strong feelings about the subject. I suggest you follow the links from Special:Whatlinkshere/Tourette's Guy to the various AfD discussions. Then, if you still think you have a chance, take the matter to Wikipedia:Deletion review. -- RHaworth 06:28, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
  • What are you waiting for? Have you read the above? In any case do you really expect us to restore an article, the entire contents of which were "Bob Saget!"? -- RHaworth 05:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Just put it back up. Quit being a dick about this. -- Alabama Man 22:24, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Incivility - message ignored. -- RHaworth 02:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Oh, I'm really sorry. Please except my deepest regrets. Now would you consider not blocking a serious topic request, pretty please. By the way, incivility is not justification to disregard a comment. Grow a backbone!--Alabama Man 06:30, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
  • So that if I get it up again, you can just take it back down? You messed everything up! You should fix it... --Alabama Man 04:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
    • I did "fix" it - I deleted it. Why are you ignoring my advice to take it to deletion review? -- RHaworth 07:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Ok we will try this again. If I put it back up, what is to say that you won’t just take it down again? If I take it to the review, and I get it put back up...you will most likely just take it down again. If this is not the case, that is to say that you won’t take it back down, they you were obviously at fault for taking it down in the first place. Therefore since YOU messed up in the first place, it is only fair that you fix your mistake. Alabama Man 14:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

I am learning and I appreciate your time in advising on the posting of articles twice. I was unclear on how to provide information in that instance, or deal with this issue. I will now use redirects.
On the issue of CaPiTaLs I asked about, I often search and find no listed article, and then discover that someone has posted something under (IE) The Art of love. and I searched The art of love. How to deal with that and not post twice? cpswarrior 12:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Search! Wikipedia search, Google and Yahoo (use site:en.wikipedia.org to narrow the searched domains) are all case insensitive but have a lag before articles appear. special:Allpages is simply a list (in case sensitive order - yuk!) of all articles but it is straight from the main database and updates instantly. -- RHaworth 12:41, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Thank you. I am indebted. cpswarrior 01:45, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates:stn art lnk / stn art lrnk

Hi, I just changed the template for the external links at Narberth railway station and Whitland railway station from {{stn art lrnk}} to {{stn art lnk}}, since the latter (which I'm more familiar with) looked at first to be an upgrade to the former. Now, I'm not so sure though... Am addressing myself here as you figure in the history of both templates and I'd appreciate your comments.

  • The map with lrnk is better, in my view (lnk is too close-up, especially in rural areas where the the "postcode centre" may be some way off the station location, and the map, or rather plan, is rather "clunky" in appearance)
  • lrnk, though, lacks the aerial photo link, and the direct reference to the station code

Is there some way of combining "the best of both"? (Am afraid I know very very little about the technicalities of templates.)

One other point. It may be thought over-picky, but to me "train times" suggests ...train times. I.e. if I click on this link I expect to be able to find out the times of (all) arrivals and departures at this station. What I get, of course, is NR's "live departure board" covering just the next few departures. Fair enough, but I think the link would be more accurately labelled if it read something like "Next trains from this station". -- Picapica 17:34, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

  • No strong feelings - but I will let you do it to learn about templates! The aerial photo link was taken out when stn_art_lrnk was used in Jordanhill railway station (which received a lot of unneccessary editorial attention!) because multimap's aerial pics don't cover Scotland.
Actually I think the neatest would be for the template to generate just two links: livedepartureboards and map - if you have got to livedepartureboards you are one click away from station info. anyway; likewise if you have got to the map you are one click away from the aerial photo. -- RHaworth 17:51, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for the speedy reply. I see that you subscribe to the philosophy that says "Change a template for a man, and he'll be back next week to ask you to do another one. Make him learn how to do it for himself, and you'll have created a Wikiholic for life..." ;-) -- Picapica 19:03, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Woman in White mess

That is a catastrophe; I had not considered the loss of the History. Should I revert everything I did back to the original version? --Notmicro 10:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

  • No. Check the histories now! There is a design fault in the Mediawiki software: if no deleted edits exist for an article, then any delete and restore history is invisible. I did a delete and a selective restore among other corrections. -- RHaworth 10:05, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I had already manually backed up the contents of all 3 pages, and requested "Speedy Deletion" of the 2 new ones before I read this. I figured that I would 1) revert the original page back to where it was before my first mod, 2) correctly Move this reverted page to the 2 new pages; 3) paste the backups of the 2 new pages into each respectively, 4) paste the backup of the orginal page in so that it resumes its current DAB status. That will get it to where it should have been in the first place. I should have never got started on this, but the original page was kind of a Frankenstein monster. --Notmicro 10:46, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

  • I think the situation is all right now. I am not actually sure whether a split was needed but since you have done it, I am not going to revert it. Clearly when an article is split, one cannot duplicate the history (leastways I don't think you can). At least we have kept the history with one substantive article and provided a note in the edit history of the other. -- RHaworth 11:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Southport F.C.

Hi, I was just wondering why you moved Southport F.C. to Southport F.C. (England) - there's no other clubs of the same name on Wikipedia (or, to my knowledge, anywhere else) so no disambiguation is required or should be used according to the usual naming conventions. Am I missing something here? Look forward to hearing from you, Aquilina 10:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Ah I see, I wasn't thinking of that type of football. Sorry about that, long day. Aquilina 10:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Changed my mind. Moved the English article back and created a dab link but left the Aussie one where I had moved it. Aussies must be resigned to having ", Australia" added to all their articles because they have so many places named after British places. -- RHaworth 11:20, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Build management

Hallo, I have added a new paragraph that might be more simple for outsiders to understand the build management topic. Is it ok now? Tlevanta 10:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chaim Simons

Thanks for the link, I'd suspected his articles existed elsewhere, but hadn't found them yet. I'll add copyvio tags to the Just William articles at least.

I had fun reading your user page and website, BTW :-). Best, Gwernol 11:43, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lalu:railway Minister, a separate article required

Dear user Please discuss the reverts done to the article on the lalu prasad yadav page.I had shifted a segment of the article into a separate article, you need to discuss why it should not exist.Holywarrior 12:21, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chaim Simons

see user talk:Simonschaim

[edit] Lymphatic pump fork

I moved the new info to the older article. I orginally wrote the new article because the link from the article on osteopathy led to a blank page. Why did it not lead to the older article? Will you correct the link from the osteopathic articles to lead to the older (updated) lymphatic pump article? Thanks Donaldal 05:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

  • It is a good idea to provide links when writing on talk pages, eg. lymphatic pump. What is preventing you from making the changes you propose? -- RHaworth 08:09, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Steve Elmer

yours was a much better solution than mine -- I should have done that first. thanks. bikeable (talk) 19:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Map references

Please look at List of King George V Playing Fields and advise me which is the best template to use for co-ordinates. I suspect gbmapping is not the best for a list which will have many! I am mildly confuzzled about the best choice Fiddle Faddle 09:34, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

  • I get confused too! If there are going to be 476 entries, you are fully justified in creating a template specifically for the article. -- RHaworth 18:31, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
    • gbmappingsmall looks useful. Tks muchly. Hmm. A template for the article. I have no idea how to do it :( You mean along the lines of {{Excitingtemplate|param1|param2|param3|param4}} etc? Would certainly avoid confusion. But how? U any good at them? Fiddle Faddle 20:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
      • V grateful for the template you made for the maps column. I have also taken your table template idea to heart and asked for help at Wikipedia:Requested templates#King George's Fields since I am not competent (yet) to do this myself. If you happen to be the "Masked stranger" who can solve it, much grateful, otherwise I hope someone else will run with it and help me. Fiddle Faddle 10:34, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] wikitables

Nice try at the wikitable reformat for the (Devon) list, but it lacks the old "th" for the county heading and the "th" for column 1. I loathe wikimarkup for tables. Learning a whole new programming language whcih is actually not simpler is tough. Any chance of revisiting. I kind of want to revert it, but you may well be editing? Fiddle Faddle 16:44, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Embolden the county by all means. I disagree with emboldening Col 1 - bold is usuallyt reserved for the repetition of the page title within the article body. Go ahead, I will live with any edit conflicts. -- RHaworth 16:54, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Not editing. Leaving you a free run at it. Let me know when to play again? Looked at Template:kgvf-row. May be non rocket science to you, but baffles me. Fiddle Faddle 17:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I shall be away from the computer for twelve hours from now. In any case, I feel I have shown you all the tricks and I cannot (at this moment) think of anything more that I want to do to KGV or his templates. -- RHaworth 18:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
    • I believe we are there :) minor issues only remain. For all your help much thanks. Always grateful for any extra thoughts, strategems, or plain simple advice. Fiddle Faddle 21:12, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cite.php stuff

I like it. I guessed there must be a way of combining footnotes. So simple when you see it done. Thanks as usual. :) Fiddle Faddle 15:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Fox Lane Players - History

I intended to nominate The Fox Lane Players for deletion. However, I first checked the history. Then I used AfD Helper on the history page, which grabbed the page title (The Fox Lane Players - History), which it then submitted to WP:AfD. Meanwhile, somebody speedy deleted The Fox Lane Players, making the AfD useless. Basically, I think everyone got confused by my mistake(s). Oh well. Also, I didn't know how to close AfDs, but now I do (after looking at the page source). --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 18:24, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jada Toys

Hi, R! Long time, no see.

Heaven help me, I swore I'd never return and I've added not one but two articles from other wikis in the past week. I wrote an article about Jada Toys at radiocontrol.wikia.com ages ago, saw Doggbert's attempt at a list of diecasts, checked what he did at Jada Toys over here...and the old Wikipedia bug took hold for a moment. They're primarily a maker of diecast models and while it seems our friend Doggbert is quite a fan, he doesn't seem to grasp the basic concept of Wikipedia. Anyway, back to lounging in obscurity once more. You can e-mail me through the R/C wiki if you'd like. Same user name as over here. Take care! Regards, "The Artist Formerly Known as Lucky 6.9" via 71.102.76.166 07:24, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Drips

RHaworth, why did you feel it necessary to delete the article on the Drips? I admit, it may have been a bit of a stub, but The Drips are a really quite well known band - they are very regularly played on the radio (including radio 1), they have an album released which is available in virtually all record shops, like HMV etc, and the members who are in the band are from The Bronx, and The Distillers - these bands have literaly hundreds of thousands of fans and have sold millions of records between them, and that's no exaggeration. I would hardly say they fell under the wikepedia deletion policy for bands...--Ed2288 11:39, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

  • What are you talking about, Drips is a redirect and there has never been an article called The Drips. -- RHaworth 12:06, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Err, yes there has. It was up for about a month, going fine then you decided to delete it - Why?. (PS here's the link, it was only 2 days ago! - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=The_drips ) --Ed2288 13:15, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

  • In Wikipedia, The Drips and The drips are different! I deleted The drips because Pilotguy had stuck a {{db-band}} tag on it, and I agreed with Pilotguy. It semed highly unlikely that a band who issued their first album last month would meet the criteria laid down in WP:MUSIC. If you really think the band is notable, argue your case at deletion review. -- RHaworth 13:39, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chelgrian

Thanks for saving the Chelgrian page. I don't think I'll be a regular contributor but I've savoured the Mostly Harmless moment. Conscious Bob 19:22, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Silver Lockwood PLC

Hi RHaworth, you prodded this article and it was deprodded by the original contributor. I've spent a few minutes trying to clean it up. However, its website indicates it consists of only three attorneys, so I'm not sure whether it is sufficiently notable to have an article. If you would take a look at it to see if you think it should go to AfD I'd be appreciative. The contributor seems to be using Wikipedia for self-promotion and I've warned him accordingly. I also believe he is in violation of 3RR, as a result of adding back invalid categories that you and I previously removed. Perhaps he is adding these words in an attempt to generate Google hits for his firm. He listed this firm on List of law firms as one of the largest law firms in the United States, which is an obvious misrepresentation. He's also added rumors to Pinal County, Arizona and Queen Creek, Arizona, it seems he intends to run for President of the United States. Accurizer 19:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD N. Nagaraja

I raised a new issue at the AfD page that you might affect your vote. I'm contacting all the past discussants. --Kchase02 (T) 20:09, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikifying rail accidents

Thanks for explaining why you wanted the articles wikified. I am relieved, I thought that there was some more serious problem. "Context" was not at all clear - I thought it might mean "explain it better for non-railway buffs"? "Geographical" or "location" would be a useful qualifier.

I had emailed rather than editing user talk as I wasn't sure how often you logged on to wiki and I was doing quite a lot of items and wanted to make sure I had got them right, so thought this would get a quicker response. However it looks like I guessed wrong :-)

As for Castlecary, I removed the wikify tab because I'd made about 10 major changes which brought the original (very far from wiki style) article into line with the style and layout guides. I had missed the importance of the wiki links to other locations. I'm adding those now, do you feel this is now OK or are there other changes which need to be made? Hyperman 42 21:59, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

  • I did try very hard to find fault with the article but there was little more that I felt it needed. Just to mention dates - if you follow one of the formats given in date format, then user preferences will work: I see the date of the crash as "1937-12-10" cos that is how I think dates should be written. You will see it the way you like them. -- RHaworth 02:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Siddique Katiya

The Siddique Katiya has created a duplicate article of Memon as Memons. The Memon article deals with Memons and the Memons page was a redirect. Siddique Katiya removed the redirect tag [3] on 18:50, 9 May 2006 and created a duplicate article. I have requested a merge of both articles. But this tag was removed. I want these articles to be merged and make Memons page again a redirect as it was on [4] 7 May 2006. Siddiqui 20:58, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editor's Barnstar

The Editor's Barnstar
For removing 10000+ unencyclopedically unworthy pages from Wikipedia and helping to keep the encyclopedia in a healthy state - As a new admin, I can certainly attest to the unappetizing kind of hard work (clearing CSD). Regards, Blnguyen
  • Gosh! More deletes than (Main) edits - what does that say about me? Mainly that I spend too long on new page patrolling! On the other hand, given that I use an RSS feed and don't usually look at new pages until they are several hours old, the fact that I still find stuff to delete suggests that I am being useful. -- RHaworth 06:57, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PIMP houseparty

I would like to protest against the deletion of this article as I believe is in a notable event in the student calender at the University of Bristol and is becoming increasing popular. This is the first time it has been introduced to the world wide web, but I believe people will start contributing this article and maybe create other related articles in the next few months. I think this page should be allowed to stand the test of time. I will therefore remove the tag and hope you take this into consideration.Bavan Palasanthiran 22:31, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Now be precise: the article has not been deleted yet. Certainly it can have the test of time - one week! I hope you will contribute to the AfD debate. But please do not get all the people listed in the HABS ENCYCLOPAEDIA to comment as well - that, if anything, will worsten your case. Incidentally what does "pimp" mean in your context. Seriously, you seem to be making some excellent contribs. in molecular biology - spare us the student cruft. -- RHaworth 06:57, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] recent move

I think your recent move of User:Mysterion the mind reader may have been improper. I posted the db notice, but was about to remove it. A second editor has posted several sources. I respectfully request that you reconsider. --Kchase02 (T) 09:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Read your comment. Will leave it to the others to take to deletion review. Thanks. --Kchase02 (T) 09:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving other's entrings

Hey man, you moved that "list of people ... moustache" thig i 'made', and it's cool, it's cool, but next time you do shit like that you better check first if there are any links to that page, okay? that list was a part of the "moustache" entry, and i moved it to a new location, leaving a link instead (you know the drill), and you came and killed it (the link). Don't worry, i fixed it, but be more careful next time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fenrir2000 (talk • contribs)

  • Very sorry. I do normally check for links. Please sign talk page entries with ~~~~. Please always log in befroe editing - how do I know that you did this edit? (And providing links on a talk page never goes amiss.) -- RHaworth 18:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mapping Help, please

I have found the KGVF in Belfast at NW489300. But OS Getamap won't play. All advice gratefully received. Fiddle Faddle 21:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andrew´s Page

Hello, dear Haworth. I am writing to you because I have written an article about a theme which seems being of your interest. I would love any suggestion, regarding grammatical issues specially. Anytime. Andrew.

I am terribly sorry, Haworth. The article is: William Henry Smith (businessman). Anytime. --AndresArce 17:33, 7 June 2006 (UTC)AndresArce

  • OK. Do I have to guess what the article is called? Provide a link it. Also sign your talk page contribs with ~~~~. -- RHaworth 12:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greek Sweets of the Spoon

Why did you delete the Greek Sweets of the Spoon article before giving me a chance to update, reply or make appropriate changes/corrections? It would have been much appreciated and much of a courtesy if peoples articles are not deleted before given them the chance to make corrections, or chances on issues raised within articles before hand. Regards. ~Mallaccaos, 7 June 2006

  • user:Ecophreek had tagged the article as a copyvio - you should also complain to them. I had also noticed that two of the images were copyvios. However on closer inspection, the text is quite a long way from being a straight copyvio so I have recovered it to User:Mallaccaos/sandbox. But if you place the article back into the (Main) namespace, you should:
    • amend the wording so it is not a copyvio
    • use lower case "s" on "sweets" and "spoon"
    • remove the recipe - Wikipedia is not a cookbook.
You might even get away with reinstating the images if you use {{promotional}} or {{fair use in}} and state the source! Applying a false tag of {{GFDL}} was a sure way of getting the images deleted! (I have deleted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greek Sweets of the Spoon - AfD's are for getting rid of articles - not for bringing them back!) -- RHaworth 16:04, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry to barge in but, the images have been re-uploaded and the tag is still wrong unless the company has been contacted and they have released the copyright. Maybe you can help this author, I can't. From looking at their talkpage, they have a long history of improper tagging on images, and I wouldn't know how to start on explaining it. ← ΣcoPhreek contribstalk→ 01:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC) Maybe fair-use would work? ← ΣcoPhreek contribstalk</sup&amp;gt;→ 01:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Mallaccaos has followed my suggestions so I will leave it to others now. -- RHaworth 01:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Long Term Abuse?

I see you deleted my entry under Long Term Abuse. Seeing as I do have multiple unmarkerd sockpuppets and a looong history of vandalism (now ended), it kind of makes sense to restore it. If dor no other reason thatn to give us all laughing material. Or it could be moved to BJAODN. Whaaaatever. User:Flameviper12/sig 16:59, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Denitrifying

Just to clarify, I meant to redirect to Denitrifying bacteria. Apparently I got distracted and made a circular redirect, not my intention. But your redirect is good too.Bjones 00:05, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ike Williams

What's the point of redirecting to Ike Williams (boxer)? We used to have 2 IW's but now only have one, and he should move into the primary slot. I am not sure what motivated you to remove the deletion request. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 11:28, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Do whatever you like to it. -- RHaworth 05:44, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] International Space Agency (ISA)

You visited our new listing international Space Agency (ISA).

All information is correct.

We are open to any feed back, however, please be aware that at present there is an all out effort by powerful government agencies, and agents, who have spread massive amounts false information and propaganda to unsuspecting people, to cause harm to the ISA organization and its people.

We are legitimate.

Also, be aware that if you do a search on the internet for "International Space Agency" you will find years and years and layers and layers of false information, propaganda, and manufactured lies about the International Space Agency (ISA) Organization, and our Founder, Mr. Rick R. Dobson, Jr. People have even used Mr. Dobson’s name on the internet, pretending they are him, when in fact they were not, and this has caused major problems! Also, these same government agents have been sending out hundreds of emails, looking as if it has come from the International Space Agency (ISA) Organization, when in fact these emails did not come from the ISA Organization, and were intended to cause harm and to deceive people. These are ongoing problems, which the ISA Organization is constantly fighting against.

Just want to set the record straight before any false information or propaganda is taken as fact, and cause problems to unsuspecting people.

Thanks. ISA Global Team. --contact info removed for privacy reasons-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isa trademark (talk • contribs)

Don't remove other editors' comments. Thanks. Powers 20:53, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I have not touched that article. But obviously my vote is delete: self-promotion and vandalism, ie. repeatedly removing the AfD tag. -- RHaworth 05:44, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] International Mystery Shopping Alliance

You speedy deleted the article I created to fill a missing link. I had contested deletion/explained the justification in the associated discussion area, yet no discussion was done and your sole comment was "spam". I am NOT a part of that association, just making a start at filling the link. Please reconsider the deletion. I am open to suggestions...
--Steve 00:36, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Steve, may I suggest you learn about Wikilinks. Your article would have fared better if it had had some and you might have got my sympathy more if your message here had linked to the article in question. Further reply at talk:International Mystery Shopping Alliance. -- RHaworth 06:07, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] replay to your note about humphrey Davis

Am not Dr. Humphrey Davies , and what you thought as signature was just mentioning the source, because what he wrote was, and stills, unpublished.

[edit] Southsea Hoverport

Thanks for the cleanup help on this article. It was 00:40 when i found it listed as a railway station, then I started the article before finding that it was listed for speedy deletion. As it was still operating as a hoverport when I was last in Southsea I decided that things were getting complicated and that I'd go to bed and sort it in the morning, rather than abandon the idea. Thanks again.Britmax 09:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually it means that AC1983fan can go down to the port and remove one of the perspex shields from the wall, safe in the knowledge that he won't be hit on the head by a stone thrown up in the airflow of the imaginary Hovercraft.(Ha, Ha!) Britmax 11:23, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ukiyotile?

Hello, Have I violated some rule in posting an article about ukiyotile? I'm wondering why it was deleted. It is a legitimate word for a technique that I've been working on to create my art. I'm presenting a paper about it on SIGGRAPH in about a month. Is there any way that you can bring the article back? Thanks plutovman 21:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Website / London director

LXD is possibly LoXforD after Loxford Park, Loxford Road etc. At least its the only thing in the area I can think of with an X in it. Mrsteviec 19:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I had assumed that it stood for London eX-Directory, ie. some GPO-internal thing - as with LPR, LTR, TLD, TSD, etc. But your suggestion is noted, and along with the dozen or so e-mails I have received, will eventually be incorporated into the page. -- RHaworth 18:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] James Allen

The book is more notable than the man. If anything, the bio should redirect to the book. And we should include the full title of books, as listed in (say) WorldCat, not a hand-picked abbreviation. I doubt that this is or was the longest title of a Wikipedia article; but it is the full name under which the work is catalogued... +sj + 00:11, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] International Garden Festival

Many thanks for your help in correcting my duplications. I'll remember to use 'move' command from now on. Advice is much appreciated. Snowy 1973 11:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

My superiror is very irritated that you deleted Mailbox the Game. You seem like one who would keep to himself and not delete a helpless orginazation's attemps at popularizing a game in Oklahoma. It would be nice if you could keep to yourself.

Thank You. -ネコの少年

  • Your superiror should spank you on your posteriror for posting such inferiror nonsense. -- RHaworth 07:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] request for deletion

hey, I tried to make a template, and abandoned it. you can actually delete it instead of moving it. Sorry about that, its a piece of crap.

Template:Salesian Custom Infobox

Thats the page im talking about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DukeB-120th (talk • contribs)

  • Please see my "Wikify!" box above. But I will let you off this time. -- RHaworth 07:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bridge 6, Erie Canal

What do you think: should Bridge 6, Erie Canal be deleted or not? - Liberatore(T) 11:56, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

  • No of course it should not. It got mixed up with the merge exercise on the Lock stubs. -- RHaworth 19:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Good! Thanks for removing the article from the category. - Liberatore(T) 19:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Silicon Optix

Hi, I've posted some at the AFD for Silicon Optix. I think I have shown that the company fulfills the requirements of WP:CORP and I have included those sources in the article. Silicon Optix (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) now passes WP:V as well.

Now that the situation has changed, I'd appreciate it if you revisited the AFD.

Unfortunately I'm not much of an author so the article isn't really written in "Brilliant prose" yet... but thats more of a reason for a {{cleanup}} tag. I think the article now is a fairly good stub. (provides sources for further expansion, NPOV, etc) ---J.S (t|c) 18:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Despite e-mails to me and comments on User talk:Arvin singh, Arvin had made no attempt to improve the article. So I put it up for AfD. The article will probably survive without my changing my vote. -- RHaworth 19:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid Arvin is a poor representative of his company. He doesnt really understand wikipedia I guess. But I do, and I've tried to bring it up to at-least stub-standards. Oh well. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 20:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Beverly Hills High School

Hi RHaworth, could you take a quick look at this article. A user keeps adding a joke about a teacher / administrator. Not sure if I want to call it vandalism because the user seems to be a newbie and doesn't seem to understand policy very well. I've tried to explain on their talk page and they also left some messages on my talk page. I don't want to continue reverting the edits myself. I think it would be beneficial for the user to hear from someone else in addition to me. Thanks, Accurizer 20:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Update, another editor became involved. If you didn't look at this yet you can ignore the request. Thanks. Accurizer 20:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Histmerge thanks

Thanks for the histmerge on Gakuen Alice. Shiroi Hane 19:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SER offices

Hi RHaworth. It's called "not thinking things through" and it happens from time to time because I'm a human being. I notice you corrected the problem yourself, so no harm appears to have been done. ➨ ЯЄDVERS 08:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Palmerston

I had never heard of Palmerston forts before. I am uncertain about the best form for the title of the main article. There is a strong precedent in Martello tower. I will leave it to you but whatever you decide, there will be double redirects needing to be fixed: special:whatlinkshere/Palmerston fort. -- RHaworth 18:37, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

The forts collectively are known as Palmerston Forts (both capitalised) as they are those planned during Palmerstons period as Premier, as opposed to Martello towers that are named after their designer. If I switch the redirect back to Palmerston fort and article back to Palmerston Forts there should be no double redirects Nuttah68 19:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes. But why do you think it should be Forts (plural and capitalised) rather than as with tower (singular and uncapitalised)? The difference between designer and prime minister does not seem to be a reason. -- RHaworth 19:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Fort is capitalised as 'Palmerston Forts' is a (collective) proper noun, in the same way as castle is captalised in Leeds Castle. In 'Martello tower' tower is not capitalised as it is not part of the proper name, it could be rewritten as 'a tower of the Martello design' Nuttah68 19:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spirit of Tasmania

Nice work. --Dweller 07:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tom Patrick Foley/Tom patrick Foley

I thought you should be aware of issues regarding this user as you deleted his articles under my speedy tag. He has created Tom patrick foley under two separate usernames, both deleted by you, as well as Tom Patrick Foley (different capitalization) tagged by me and deleted by User:Uncle G. Today, under a third username, he reposted Tom Patrick Foley, this time pasting in a block of text from the article Ambassador, which I have tagged for deletion. I have noted the sockpuppetry in the three talk pages. See: User talk:Nordac, User talk:Freneric and User talk:Servitor.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

  • You can also add that the first version of Tom patrick foley was created by Gesiwuj and their sock puppet 194.187.32.42. Both are interested in Macclesfield and thereabouts and especially Fallibroome High School. Unsurprisngly 194.187.32.42 is registered to Cheshire County Council. Gesiwuj and Servitor are also both interested in Ratbird. -- RHaworth 13:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
    • I take it then that you are on top of the situation. Thanks.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finnimore

See talk:Finnimore. -- RHaworth 05:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] stubs response

Empty articles are misleading - they conceal the fact (shown by red links) that an article is required. Do not create Green's Harbour, Newfoundland and Labrador until you are ready to give it some useful content. -- RHaworth 07:47, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks but again you and others fail to see the big picture, there is a Wiki Project that about 9 of us are working on. I agree with you however about incomplete articles but this is different,

Wikipedia:WikiProject Newfoundland and Labrador & the one you found my photo on: List of communities in Newfoundland and Labrador are being worked on piece by piece, some are supplying articles , some are supplying and working on links, I am working on photos, and others are doing what they can with support etc. I have completed the A, T, U and most of the B Lists with , for right now, small amounts of information OR A PHOTO, to get things going. I know you are trying to help but there is a bigger picture, Thanks for your input, I will post this conversation on the Talk pages and see what others think. WayneRay 16:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)WayneRay

[edit] Crystallizer vs. Crystallization

Hi - The original task was to write an article on crystallization, then it took a slippery path towards the technique of crystallization - IOW, crystallizers. From here the decision to make a new article. You could expect this from an engineer, isn't it? So, I see it correctly in its place - my opinion, of course, entirely questionable. I will put a see also on both - this I forgot.
Ah, the title - wiki enough? Ciao--UbUb 19:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I saw you redirected. When I patrol in it.wiki, I use to read the articles before acting. You would have understood prima facie that they were related to different things. Rollbacked.--UbUb 21:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

The question is: how much of an article should I have to read? The word crystallizer does not appear until the sixth paragraph of the crystallizer article. I would say the prima facie evidence was that the article was a fork. Fact is, I have no strong feelings. As long as some opinions for and against a merge are given in talk:crystallization, I shall be happy. -- RHaworth 19:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theatre Royal, Bath

Thanks for removing the speedy, the theatre should be here, but I knew nothing about it, didn't start the article. --Richhoncho 21:53, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Since you are not Modernmillie, it would have been perfectly within the rules for you to remove the speedy tag. -- RHaworth 19:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Care and feeding of newbies

see User talk:Xoloz
See answer there too. FrankB 02:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Kick in rear! some days it don't pay to be helpful! <g> // FrankB 08:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flagging speedy copyvios

When flagging a page under CSD A8, don't blank the previous content, as you did here. Not blanking the page makes it easier for sysops to compare the contents of the source with the article. Thanks! Kimchi.sg 12:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Complexity: {{copyvio}} - blank it; {{db-copyvio}} - don't blank it. Very subtle but I will try and remember. -- RHaworth 13:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your advice

I don't mean to be rude and blank my talk page. I was just trying to remove the "You have new messages" everytime I go to a specific page. If I knew another way to do this, I would.

I don't think I still quite understand how this posting process works because I am hearing different things from different people. You are telling me not to bother re writing articles that you have listed for deletion while others like MichaelMaggs and Gazpacho encouraged me to rewrite articles that I didn't do a good job on the first time. I don't see how this Microtel is considered okay to you guys but this Hawthorn_Suites is not. Please explain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Plin (talk • contribs)

  • (Please read the "Wikify!" box above - you failed on 1½ of the 2 points mentioned.) To remove "you have new messages" - go and read them! It always works for me! What happens to articles is very much a matter of the whim of the new page patrollers. I think you are here purely to advertise the hotels. MichaelMaggs and Gazpacho are taking a more lenient view. -- RHaworth 13:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


I did in fact read the messages many times and wondered why the "you have new messages" was still showing up and figured the only way to get rid of it is to delete the messages. But now I know...hopefully it won't happen again. I am not here purely to advertise certain hotels. Yes, I do want people to be aware of them but more importantly I hope people will find what I say useful. I will definitely read the "Wikify!" box you suggested so I can improve on my writing. Thanks so much for all the help.--Plin 17:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for catching redundant article

Thanks for catching the redundancy on the SamskritaBharati‎ (a.k.a. Samskrita Bharathi) article. I had missed this when I tagged it for wikification. --A. B. 16:48, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NISSAN K10 MARCH Thanks

En ･Indication rule ek-10st Toyama

Wikipedia GFDL OK

・1 And public organization contribution condition of condition. Only "Use with GFDL" is allowed. Only condition ・2(A) And the original person in question can use the　original, and contribute. It needing becomes condition ・2(B) And a pertinent matter. It allows it the encouragement as for the postscript and the retouch.

Or, it can be a reprint by the origin of this original person in question allowance.

Use of condition ・3 The second without permission self-regard is not　permitted.

Double charge club ＠ mastermind and --219.114.63.247 23:01, 29 June 2006 (UTC)ek-10st Toyama [2006]

[edit] Please don't bite the newbies

You might have noticed that I had already made an attempt to explain (diplomatically) to User:Dr Jon Jenkins about why posting a copy of his inaugural speech was unacceptable. Please assume good faith with people like this - there is no excuse for scaring them off for an ignorant newbie mistake. Rebecca 00:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Come off it woman. There are newbies and there are politicians and they can be treated differently! As a matter of principle I disapprove of all vanity articles. -- RHaworth 05:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
So he deserves to be chased off Wikipedia for being a politician who made a newbie mistake? He is very clearly notable, and there's no excuse for being so downright rude because he made a simple newbie mistake. What did you think you would achieve by being so very rude to a newbie? Rebecca 05:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
I simply do not consider it rude to state that his contribution was vanity. It was a fact: his contribution was vanity. It don't matter how notable he his, he should wait until some else writes his bio. Is there much point in being gentle: do you really think he is likely to start contributing on subjects other than himself? -- RHaworth 06:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
It's not stating that it was vanity that was the problem. It was the "It is the height of vanity to think the world would be interested in your maiden speech." comment that was just downright rude. It costs absolutely nothing to be diplomatic about it, and we can hardly tell what sort of edits someone might make in the future. Rebecca 07:52, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
That was fine, although it strikes me as being a bit unnecessary - copyright isn't my area, but I'd be surprised if someone didn't own the copyright to their own speech. Rebecca 13:12, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I also came to complain about your treatment of a new user (not myself). You are extremely aggressive and insulting and you don't let your ignorance of the matter at hand stand in your way. Cloachland 04:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

So, are you going to tell me which user? -- RHaworth 04:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the CSD education

Your comment about silly CSD tag on Outdoor-Indoor Transmission Class (which I placed there) caused me to go back and re-read wp:not and wp:csd. I now realize that *merely* being a dictionary-like entry is not CSD, but could be an AfD criterion. Sorry for wasting your time and, Thanks, I learned something. I just tagged it as needing expansion and linkless - I don't intend to PROD or AfD the article. In any case, thanks again. I'm still learning Brian 18:38, 2 July 2006 (UTC)btball

[edit] User: Vanessabu

You left more than a few messages on his/her talk page regarding those NFPF articles, and it seems he/she's created another one at NFPF Password Reset. I marked it as db-repost, but I thought you might want to know, given your prior involvement. Luna Santin 10:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vanessabu

Apologies that page should not have been published. Thank-you for bringing it to my attention. Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanessabu (talk • contribs) 03 July 06

Great idea posting a map to your flat and your phone number on your page, you are dead within the fortnight you impotent pedantic fuck, this is no joke, youve been a pedantic dick for the last time —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.234.223.167 (talk • contribs) 21:36, 3 July 2006

[edit] Whitehorse Bluffs

I kept your legitimate concerns added to the article, while replacing the bit of mischief regarding the word dykes. Shenme 05:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aqualand

See A. B.

[edit] Monobook move

No, I meant to create the monobook for my girlfriend- I'm moving it back. Thanks for helping, though! Teke 16:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

And now I see the page is protected. Could you fix it please? Teke 16:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I wish people wouldn't vandalize your talk page while I'm trying to write. It's just rude. Anyway, I went over where I screwed up in my sleepy haze last night; thanks again for fixing mistake. I'm gonna have to tell her what to do, it seems. This'll be a chore... happy editing to you! Teke 17:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't seem much of a chore, but you may have to log on as your girlfriend. -- RHaworth 11:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apology

Id like to apologize for the unwarranted threats I made to you and Francs2000 (205.234.223.167) while it in no way excuses what I did, I have been undergoing some personal problems and used incredibly stupid means as an outlet for my frustrations, I can assure you that I never intended either of you any harm being much more suicidal than homicidal and hope you were not caused any stress by them and correctly wrote them off as a stupid prank by an immature asshole. While you were mostly chosen at random for my idiocy, part of it had to do with how together and focused you seem from your talk page which compared to the mess my life is caused some jealousy in me, while this is an apology It is completely unreasonable to ask for forgiveness and I dont expect any, I am going to be getting treatment for my problems and can assure you that I will never bother you any other admins or this site again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.225.253.130 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for that re-assurance. I would be interested to know: was there some specific edit or deletion of ours which triggered your threats? -- RHaworth 11:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
(Note to self - see curious edits on July 8 by 205.234.106.105. -- RHaworth 17:53, 11 July 2006 (UTC))

[edit] stubs

Thank you for the tip. I'm very new here, still learning, so it helps when people take the time to leave a message. Thanks again! Jenny Wong 15:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] King of the North East

Hi there, my IP 81.96.242.176 got blocked last night because I cut and pasted a table that I had just created in [[Category:Listed Buildings in Leeds)) (a category I created) to Listed buildings in Leeds (half constucted due to blocking), where I meant to put it in the first place. My computer had logged me out without warning at the time so I got barred for blanking by an over zealous administrator User:DragonflySixtyseven who is now not responding, so i have had to come to the Library to log on.

Have you got any advice other than wait for the block to expire?

(sorry the link to the category wont work you can find it at the bottom of Round Foundry.

-King of the North East 10:19, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

The block, even for an hour, was totally unjustified. I have left a remonstration at User talk:DragonflySixtyseven. Can't think why you are being logged out - you are ticking "Remember me" when you log in aren't you? -- RHaworth 15:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commiserations

Just stumbled on this via WP:AN archives... pathetic (User talk:205.234.223.167) individual. Sad and sick. Best regards. // FrankB 05:25, 15 July 2006 (UTC)