User talk:RFD

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Welcome!

Hello RFD, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] Greetings

Good to see you registered an account! I think you'll find it makes editing Wikipedia even easier. HollyAm 20:19, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Thanks for leaving a note on my home page. . .So glad that you decided to join Wikepedia. . .I hope you keep contributing and ejoy your involvement! TMS63112 16:54, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re Necedah Shrine

I think I've fixed the external link the way you wanted. You had the right idea, but the link didn't work due to typos. Here you can see that there was a line break in the middle of the link (before the '.html'), and that caused it not to work. You may have hit the 'Enter' key while typing in the link? And then here your link would have been fine except there was a trailing slash (/) put at the end of the link when there should not have been. But it should work now. HollyAm 18:04, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome! Also, I looked at the Raymond Leo Burke article. The wikilink you put in for the Cathedral was fine; the only problem was that the article's title is spelled Cathedral of Saint Joseph the Workman rather than Cathedral of St. Joseph the Workman. This is because it is generally preferable to use spelled out words rather than abbreviations in article titles. So what I did was to turn Cathedral of St. Joseph the Workman into a Redirect page pointing to Cathedral of Saint Joseph the Workman. This way, you can wikilink to either spelling, though it is still preferable to wikilink to the version that avoids the redirection. The rest of the Burke article looked fine to me, but if I missed something, just let me know. HollyAm 23:43, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dan Quayle

That's no problem at all. You don't have to be signed in to edit, after all. Really, asides from the "perks" like being able to talk to people more easily and getting credit for your edits, the only time it's "important" to sign in is for editing things in the [[wikipedia:]] and [[wikipedia talk:]] name spaces, since rightly or wrongly you may be ignored on some of those pages (WP:AFD and WP:RFA spring to mind) if you aren't a signed-in user. The Literate Engineer 15:08, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Atatürk

Hi RFD, the birth day of Atatürk is not known. That's his word, when people asks him about his birth day, he said that i don't know.--Ugur Basak 15:25, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Kemal_Atatürk/Archive_1#Suppression_of_name This explains.--Ugur Basak 15:27, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Archbishop Raymond Leo Burke article-

I replied to your msg on my talk page. — Kbh3rdtalk 16:18, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

If you looked at my talk page and didn't see anything, it was temporarily vandalized this morning. — Kbh3rdtalk 19:20, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Richard! Looks like a difficult situation over at the Burke article. Here is my advice; you're probably familiar with much of it already. What's going on is a NPOV dispute rather than vandalism (see Wikipedia:Vandalism#What_vandalism_is_not). It is good that you are striving toward neutral point of view with this article.

I see someone has created a page at St. Stanislaus Kostka Church (Saint Louis) to document this current-event controversy. It would be my recommendation to try to keep the St. Stan's editing on the St. Stanislaus Kostka Church (Saint Louis) page, with a brief neutral description of a basic summary on the Raymond Leo Burke page and a link to the St. Stan's main article. Of course, all this does is defer the POV editing to the St. Stanislaus Kostka Church (Saint Louis) page, so it still needs to be dealt with there.

You could revert to a previous version, as you mentioned, if you think there was a better version of the article. Look through the article's history (the history tab at the top) and click on the date and time of the next most recent version and take a look at it. Keep looking through the recent history until you find the last acceptable version--one that is written from what you feel is a NPOV. Then revert to that version (see Wikipedia:Revert for a how-to-revert). If no recent version is acceptable, then you'll have to write it yourself first.

However, someone or someones could disagree with your revert and revert it right back. This creates the edit war. It is important to never break the three-revert rule, which means do not revert an article more than three times in a 24-hour period. If the POV version persists, place a {{NPOV}} tag at the top of the article and explain why you did so on the article's talk page. The article may still be POV, but at least the tag will alert readers of this. The goal then is to reach a consensus on the talk page on how to make the article neutral. Notify the editors who you are in conflict and invite them to discuss on the article's talk page. As I saw User:Kbh3rd suggested, a subpage with a working copy is good. Wikipedia:Protection policy describes having the page temporarily protected and what the criteria must be.

You're doing great by keeping a cool head through what can be a stressful situation. Let me know if I can help or explain further. HollyAm 19:54, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re The Diocese of Madison

Yeah, I actually meant to let you know that I started the Diocese of Superior article and then forgot. Someone else created the Green Bay article, which I helped format, and then since the Superior article was the only one left to create, I figured I would go ahead and do so. Good catch on the date and info in the Madison article. I wikified the counties and also added the list of bishops. HollyAm 19:34, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dolan and Burke articles

Richard - Thanks for leaving a couple notes on my talk page. . .I took a look at the Abp. Dolan article - it's pretty good. I have fond memories of him when he was in St. Louis, but I'm afraid I don't have much to contribute to the article at this point. Happy New Year and keep up the good work with your contributions. And remember to BE BOLD! TMS63112 17:29, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I got your note about the RFT letters on the Archbishop Burke page. Right now they are available on the talk page, which is fine with me. The user you reference doesn't seem to have been active under that username since August. Thanks! TMS63112 16:58, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episcopal Dioceses in Wisconsin

Richard - Good work on the articles. Thanks for bringing them to my attention. I made a couple minor edits. Please consider including something in each article explainign what Province V is. TMS63112 20:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

You left me a note a couple days ago about whether I thought Abp. Burk would be named a Cardinal. . .I don't really know, but I doubt it. St. Louis is one of those diocese (Baltimore is the other that comes to mind) that sometimes has a Cardinal, but not always. We have not had one as Abp. since Cardinal Carberry retired in the early 1980's (he died in about 1998). I think as the church becomes less a European and North American church we will see fewer cardinals from small and mid-sized diocese like STL and more from Africa, Asia, and South America. I also think the controversies over things like St. Stans make it less likely thatBurke would get picked for a red hat. TMS63112 04:29, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regis High School

Done.

[edit] Re: Episcopal Church in Wisconsin

Hi Richard, thanks for the note! Nice job on the Episcopal dioceses and great idea to expand on religion in Wisconsin. Good job with the other articles, also. One of the many things on my "to do list" is to work on Congressmen without articles at U.S. Congressional Delegations from Wisconsin, so thanks for adding Baldus and Steiger. Particularly, I want to add the four Wisconsin U.S. Senators left without articles; I haven't yet but will get to them soon. Happy editing! HollyAm 01:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for adding Angus Cameron; I added Joseph V. Quarles, so now only two to go! HollyAm 02:29, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sinsinawa

Thanks for getting those articles about the Sinsinawa sisters and the town itself added to the site. If I come across any useful information I'll certainly add it to the articles, and if I remember the next time I'm out that way and I have my camera to get some pictures of the town.
JesseG 02:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hugo Jan Huss

Hello,

Thank you for leting us know about this article. I cleaned it up a little bit, by adding links to the existing articles, and making some corrections - he was a director at the Filarmonic orchestra in Arad, not in Bucharest. Also I added it to the list of Romania related new articles here. Mihai -talk 18:21, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I haven't noticed the fact that there were two obituaries. I have corrected the link and added some information (link to Constantin Silvestri and rephrased a little bit the thing about his life in Romania). Mihai -talk 21:24, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi, this is just to let you know that I (finally) read your note on my talk page, and that I appreciate your drive towards accuracy by involving "locals". However, to be perfectly honest, I never heard of the guy (not much into classical music myself), so I can't help in any meaningful way (of course I could Google out some data on him, but I expect you guys already did that.) But I did mean it when I thanked you, reaching out is commendable. --Gutza T T+ 04:34, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] St. John the Evangelist Cathedral

Hi.. thanks for creating an article for the Cathedral, as I've been meaning to get around to it. I think its proper name is Cathedral of St. John the Evangelist though (see website), but wanted to get your imput instead of just arbitrarily moving the page. Take care! Sulfur 01:42, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:ARCHIVES

Hi again! Given the opinion you gave at the request for comment on archives I thought you might be interested to know the issue has now been put to a straw poll and could use your vote! Staxringold 00:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blackhawk Museum

Hello, just wanted to let you know that the Blackhawk Museum article has been listed as a possible copyvio. Thanks. --Geopgeop 13:59, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Charles Dierkop

RFD, Charles Dierkop is one of my favorite character actors. It was an honor to expand the article. Take care! Schmiteye 04:42, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mary Dimmick Harrison

I'm afraid I don't know of any biographies of her. I've only seen her mentioned, briefly, in books on First Ladies, or on Benjamin Harrison. I agree that it sounds like an interesting story. - Nunh-huh 21:47, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

For a yet-more-interesting marital knot, see Daisy, Princess of Pless. She and her husband had three sons, then divorced and married other spouses. Her husband's second wife divorced him and married his son (who was also, obviously, the son of Daisy), and had two children by him. Thus Daisy's husband's second wife was the mother of Daisy's only grandchildren.... - Nunh-huh 21:53, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I only know of a few of Mary Harrison's descendants, and I don't know who married Mary Jane Walker (or if there's another granddaughter I don't know of.) But it seems a distant enough relationship to be comfortable. I guess things were different in those days! - 22:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the info on Charles Calhoun's book. Is there any additional info there on relatives or ancestors? If so, I'd try to find a copy to look at. - Nunh-huh 14:33, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey Richard

Hi Richard, how are you? It's been a while since I've been to Wikipedia, but I plan to now be back. My time had been limited lately, as I have been caring for a family member; but I am doing well, just busy. I haven't checked out the Wisconsin-related updates yet, but it looks like there are many new pages. I'll try to catch up with what's new. Until later! HollyAm 02:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome and Reminder

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[edit] Re: Veronica Lueken

Hi, RFD. Someone vandalised my earlier Veronica Lueken entry. How do I go about complaining about edits that violate NPOV, contain unsubstantiated statements etc? [User: Calibanu]] 10.31, 5 July 2006

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[edit] Shrine of Guadelupe

Hi. Richard. I'd like to help with the Shrine of Our Lady of Guaedelupe entry, but to provide NPOV, I'll probably need some balancing stuff. Are there are any online references to the controversy about it that you've already referred to?

User Calibanu 10.16, 13 June 2006.

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[edit] James Cameron

Cool! thanks for letting me know.

[edit] Veronica Lueken

Hi there, just wondering why you left the following message on my talk page:

"I got a request about the vandalizing of the Veronica Lueken article. First: I did ask the individual doing the vandalism to put any concerns, etc., on the discussion section and if the individual would please get a wikipedia account. Second: I told User:Caribeu (? not sure of the exact spelling of name) to get ahold of an administrator. I hope this helps. Thank you-RFD 11:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)"

I've added the article to my watchlist and have done some work on it now, but I don't understand why I got the message in the first place. —Mira 22:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi! You probably have more experience with vandalism and people who change articles without expressing their concerns, etc., then I have. You probably have more experience with handling vandalism then I have like blocking them. Thanks-RFD 22:54, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, thank you for your kind words. As I said, I will continue to monitor the page to make sure everything is okay. But I can't block people, you'll need an administrator for that. For anything else, though, please feel free to contact me. —Mira 02:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Catholicism Assessment

Hello, fellow WikiProject Catholicism member. The project has recently begun work on assessing articles relating to Catholicism, and you are invited to comment and participate. The subpage for this assessment is located here. Thank you. —Mira 07:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move Roman Catholic Church to Catholic Church

There is a vote at Talk:Roman Catholic Church: A Vote on the Title of this Article on moving Roman Catholic Church to Catholic Church. You are invited to review it. --WikiCats 04:03, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Westerville North High School

That's great to hear! I'm a senior this year and would really like to get a good page going for the school so future students can have something to see and work on themselves. I had noticed a few other central Ohio high schools had pages, and liked the idea. Thanks for the help! --DeathLoofah 01:50, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Second Supper

Thanks for working on this article. To clear up any misunderstanding, I want to point you to WP:CITE for information on how citations work on Wikipedia. Specific citations need to be listed in the article; sending readers to another site to verify it for themselves is not appropriate. I am available to answer any questions you might have, and I can tag individual statements that need to be cited if you'd like. Thanks, Chris Griswold (☎☓) 23:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Vandalism

Done and done. Thank you for being on the lookout. If you wish, you may learn about undoing vandalism here: Help:Reverting -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 15:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Goodland Field

I did major editing on the Goodland Field article, and I found several citations that say that it was named after a former mayor of Appleton, not the former Governor. Please review my edits. Let's do any further discussion there (if necessary). I am now watching the article. Cheers! Royalbroil Talk  Contrib 17:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Diocesan Infobox

To the creators of Diocesan/Archdiocesan articles

I have proposed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Catholicism an infobox for Catholic Dioceses. I have not gotten any feedback on this proposal, so I’m culling feedback, advice, corrections, etc. for this. If you have the time, would you check out User:SkierRMH/Diocese_Infobox and give me some feedback! Thanks much!!

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the pointer to Thomas J. Preston, Jr.. Here are two New York Times articles you might be interested in:

New York Times, 11 February 1913
MRS. CLEVELAND AND PROF. PRESTON WED
President Hibben Officiates at Ceremony in the Princeton University Mansion.
ONLY FEW RELATIVES THERE
Date Advanced Because of Prof. Preston's illness—Her Daughter and His Brother Attend Them.
Special to The New York Times.
PRINCETON, N. J., Feb. 10.-Surrounded only by members of their immediate families and three friends. Mrs. Frances Folsom Cleveland, widow of the late President Grover Cleveland. and Prof. Thomas Jex Preston, Jr., of Wells College, Aurora, N. Y., were married this morning in the executive mansion of Princeton University. The ceremony was performed by the Rev. John Grier Hibben, President of Princeton, and a longtime friend of the bride and bridegroom. After the wedding breakfast, at which President and Mrs. Hìbben were the hosts, the couple held an informal reception at Prospect.

Mr. and Mrs. Preston left President Hibben's home in a touring car shortly after 1 o'clock, and it was reported that they were on their way to Princeton Junction to board a train for Florida. To-night, however, they were still at the Cleveland home in Princeton, and declined to make public their plans.

The Preston-Cleveland nuptials came as a surprise to scores of the former Mrs. Cleveland's friends in Princeton. Although planned during the past three days in the very heart of Princeton University, not one of the students had any Intimation that the wedding was to occur to-day.

It was announced by Dean Andrew F. West, head of the Princeton graduate school, that the element of mystery which pervaded the preliminary plans for the wedding was due to an illness of Mr. Preston that had led his physician to prescribe a period of rest in Florida. That the date for the ceremony was rather hastily decided on is evident from the fact that only last Saturday Mrs. Henry Edward Perrine, the mother of the bride, who has lived at the Cleveland home for several years, left for Bermuda, to be gone for two months.

Mr. Preston reached Princeton from New York only half an hour before the ceremony this morning. He was accompanied by his parents. Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Jex Preston of Aurora, and his sisters, Mrs. Florence Preston Jones and Mrs. John Hoppen; Mr. Hoppen of South Orange and his brother, Harry Preston of New York City. They went directly to Prospect, the university executive mansion, where Mrs. Cleveland and Mr. Preston spent a few minutes receiving the servants of the Cleveland household In the hall.

At 10:30 o'clock the bride-elect walked to the main drawing room of the Princeton mansion on Mr. Preston's arm. Mrs. Cleveland was attired in an unadorned white silk gown cut along simple lines, and carried a bouquet of white Killarney roses. Mr. Preston wore the conventional black frock suit.

In performing the ceremony President Hibben used the Episcopal service. Those who were in the room aside from the relatives who accompanied Mr. Preston to Princeton were Miss Esther Cleveland, who was born in the White House and who made her début on Nov. 18, at which time Mrs. Cleveland made her first appearance since her husband's death attired in colors: Miss Marian Cleveland. Who is attending school at Bryn Mawr, Penn.; Francis Cleveland, the late President's youngest son: President and Mrs. Hibben, and Dean Andrew F. West of the Princeton Graduate School. Richard Cleveland, the third child of Mrs. Cleveland, is at school at Phillips Andover Academy, and although notified of the wedding was unable to attend. Miss Esther Cleveland and Harry Preston stood by the couple as the service was read.

The Prospect dining room was decorated for the wedding breakfast with narcissus and white Killarney roses, the latter being Mrs. Preston's favorite flower.

Shortly after noon several of Mrs. Cleveland's friends and neighbors called to offer their congratulations. Some of them also knew Mr. Preston, who only a few years ago took a Master of Arts degree at the university. Among these callers were President Francis Landey Patton of the Theological Seminary, a former President of Princeton University, with Mrs. Patton; George B. McClellan. ex-Mayor of New York City and now a Princeton Professor, and Mrs. McClellan, and Jesse Lynch Williams, the author, and Mrs. Williams.

The bride and groom were borne away through a shower of rice in the steel-gray touring car which has for a long time been known as the Cleveland automobile. The former bride of the White House, though 48 years old, looked little more than 30 as she waved a happy goodbye to friends on the Hibben lawn. Mr. Preston is 50 years old and a six-footer. His bearing as he stepped briskly into the waiting machine was not that of a man who needed to go to Florida for his health.

Despite Mr. and Mrs. Preston's refusal to divulge their plans, it is believed that they will soon leave for Florida. Mrs. Preston will not attend the inaugural ceremonies on March 4. It is said that Miss Esther Cleveland will join her grandmother, Mrs. Perrine, at Bermuda within the next week.

NYT: 26 December 1955
DR. T. J. PRESTON W JR., EDUCATOR, WAS 93
Special to The New York Times.

SOUTH ORANGE, N. J., Dec. 25-Dr. Thomas Jex Preston Jr., former Professor of Archeology at Princeton University and former president pro tem of Wells College, Aurora, N. Y., died today at his home, 151 Irving Avenue, after an illness of several months. He was 93 years old.

Dr. Preston's wife was Mrs. Frances Folsom Cleveland Preston, widow of President Grover Cleveland. Dr. Preston and Mrs. Cleveland were married in 1913, five years after the death of the late President. Mrs. Preston died in 1948.

Dr. Preston was born in Hastings-on-Hudson, N. Y., and was graduated from Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute in 1880. He studied at the Sorbonne in Paris, the University of Rome and the American School of Classical Studies in Rome before joining P. J. Preston & Co. in Newark, a linseed oil manufacturing concern founded by his father.

After the concern was sold in 1992, Dr. Preston enrolled at Princeton as the university's first "adult student." He received a bachelor of literature degree in 1906 at the age of 44, a masters degree the following year and a doctorate of philosophy in 1910. He was elected to Phi Beta Kappa.

Dr. Preston was a former trustee of the Westminster Choir School at Princeton and a life member of the Archeological Institute of America. He was professor of archeology at Princeton In 1911 and 1912, and was president pro tem of Wells College when he retired in 1912.

- Nunh-huh 16:00, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, RFD, I don't know of an online version to link them to, but feel free to just move the text to the article's talk page, or to incorporate the facts from the clippings into the article. - Nunh-huh 23:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Award

I have awarded you my personal award. It is located on the bottom of your userpage. I don't want you to miss it. Royalbroil T : C 17:21, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

What was the deal with the image that you inserted on your message in my talk page? Someone has removed it. Royalbroil T : C 20:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I bet you accidentally clicked on the image button on the toolbar above the text entering section. No problem. Cheers! Royalbroil T : C 13:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bishop McGavick

You do not understand, for sorting purposes Wikipedia requires that all names starting with Mc, for instance, be sorted as "Mac". See the below from Martin McGuinness' edit page:

Please use Macguiness, ie with an 'a' and a lowercase 'g', to assist category sorting

Also, names starting with O' (as in O'Neill would be sorted as Oneill, Ocallaghan, Obrien, etc).

Marlboro, Massachusetts automatically redirects to the correct spelling : Marlborough, Massachusetts.

Yours, Conrad Falk 14:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, btw, since you probably deal with a lot of people whose surnames start with "Mc" or "O'", please remember the above and spread the word. Thanks!! Conrad Falk 14:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I will go along with you relunctantly for the time being about the spelling-however, I will object if Bishop McGavick's surname, the spelling, is change in the actual article.RFD 16:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


Thanks, I was unaware I changed the spelling of his surname in the actual article page; that of course would have been wrong, and if I did so it was in error.Conrad Falk 16:43, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

My apologies- you did not changed the actual spelling in teh article. I mentioned I would object if the actual spelling of McGavick was changed.RFD 16:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Mark Kellogg

Thanks for the nice comments about the Mark Kellogg article and for helping to improve it. Best, --Alabamaboy 15:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UW-La Crosse Article

To RFD:

I appreciate all the past work that you have done for the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse article. I have noticed that you haven't contributed to the article in a while, so I wanted to tell you that I would welcome any additional contributions. Its not easy tackling an article alone and I hope you don't feel as though I "took over" the article and forced you out. I am sure that you are a very busy person, but if you are willing to contribute anything more to the article I would greatly appreciate. Thanks!! --Crosscountrycpjon 20:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I hope the surgery went well. Glad to know that the world is getting to know western Wisconsin better thanks to all of your contributions. Keep up the good work!  :-) --Crosscountrycpjon 01:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it is too bad to here about Maurice Graff, but nobody can say that he didn't live a full life. Living to the age of 99 years old was just his last of many great accomplishments. RIP Graff. --Crosscountrycpjon 21:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Laura Ingalls Wilder article

Hello, Richard:

Can you explain to me how Lund, Wisconsin, an unincorporated community in it's own right, located some 8 miles north of Pepin, can be "in the town of Pepin"? That does not make sense. Township, maybe, yeah - but a town cannot be "in a town" eight miles south.

Regards,

Melos Antropon 13:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I can answer this one for I have traveled all the way across the state and visited the site. The replica house on the plot of land is on a road all by itself, so it's not located in EITHER Lund or Pepin. It's most likely in the Township of Pepin. It is located closer to Lund than Pepin. Royalbroil 03:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Lund and the LIW birthplace are both in the Town of Pepin. Wisconsin does not have civil townships at all, so there is no "Township of Pepin"; the Wisconsin version of such an entity is a "town". I see that RFD has changed the LIW article to say that she was born "near the village of Pepin", which is certainly correct. Her birthplace is in the Town of Pepin and also near the Village of Pepin, Wisconsin. Lund is also in the Town of Pepin. All unincorporated parts of Wisconsin are in a Town, and that's the one containing her birthplace. So - Pepin is the name of a Town and also the name of a Village, and both are distinct. Her mother was born in the Town of Brookfield, in what is today the City of Brookfield. Confusing, isn't it? Merenta 18:20, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Appleton, Wisconsin

You are correct that St. Mary's deserves to be in that article, but what about the other churches? Maybe you could complete the section. Thor Rudebeck 18:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Circle Sanctuary article

Hello there, I believe from the talk page at Neopaganism that you are interested in this topic. I've set up a drafting page here which will let us assemble a good-looking, well-referenced article so that we can release it into the mainspace with a chance of surviving. I'm happy to 'host' the page but have no knowledge of Circle Sanctuary myself, so will rely on others with more knowledge for material! Please come and join us if you would like to. Many thanks, Kim Dent-Brown (Talk to me) 09:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Holy Hill National Shrine of Mary, Help of Christians

I have spent several hours on the article about Holy Hill (near Milwaukee). I think this would be a nice article to feature on Did You Know for WikiProject Wisconsin. It is eligible since it was expanded starting from a few sentences. Do you have any sources that could help expand this article since you work a nearby diocese? I will qualify under the June 19th date (in international time), and it would need to be featured within 5 days. I would appreciate your help! Royalbroil 03:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I have nominated the article for DYK. I was actually hoping that you would collaborate with me and use your sources to expand the article. I have used inline citations, so I would appreciate if you would cite anything that could be contested too (use {{Cite book}} for the book). I have retitled the section from "Sources" to "Additional reading", which is accurate right now since it wasn't used as a source. Do you have the ISBN # on the book? I have asked you because I know you are knowledgable about Catholic things. I am Catholic too, but I am not familiar with Wikipedia's styles/methods on Catholic things since don't work on many Catholic articles. Would you please proofread the article for any spelling errors, poorly worded statements, or bad wikilinks? I appreciate your help. Royalbroil 16:25, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding this [1] edit on Mayo Medical School

Can you provide a reference for that? I knew there was an affiliation with the PA program but was not aware of one with the medical school. Also, can you state the exact nature of the affiliation? The clinic itself has affiliations with hundreds of universities, but if its specific to the medical school it would be helpful to know exactly what it is. Thanks! Gtadoc 21:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for adding a reference, I'm wondering if it might be a good idea to create a seperate page for the medical school (which does not include the PA school) and the larger College of Medicine (which includes PA, PT, Dentists, and residency/fellowships. Gtadoc 17:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thea Bowman

I suspected as much, which is why I tagged it instead of deleting it. Feel free to remove the tag if it's going to be referenced. Cheers, ELIMINATORJR 00:33, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Governors of Wisconsin

Thank you for your suggestions! I'm still working on improving the List of Governors (I'm hoping to get it up to Featured list status eventually), and I've been a bit cautious about adding too much information, since the article is really only a List of Governors of Wisconsin: if I can amass enough information, I think there should be two articles, rather like List of Governors of California and Governor of California. Again, thanks for your suggestions! If you come up with any more, feel free to tell me, or add them to the article yourself. —Salmar (talk) 20:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Black Hawk War

Thanks for the thanks! I am glad you are enjoying them, I really have enjoyed working on them. Your comments could not have come at a better time, the wikistress level is through the roof. I am working on an improved version of Battle of Bad Axe so look for that in the next couple of days. If you're interested in military history, I am slowly working on a meticulous article about the United States Army Chemical Corps. Thanks again for the kudos. :) IvoShandor 09:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Moved from your user page, during an apparent lapse of attention paying on my part, sorry. The new Bad Axe article is up btw. IvoShandor 06:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roman Catholic Bishops

As a member of WikiProject Catholicism I wanted to inform you that some members of Wikipedia believe that most Roman Catholic Bishops do not merit an article on Wikipedia. Since I am unaware of a position on Wikipedia on this matter I decided to bring this to your attention. The three articles on bishops are up for AfD, they are: : John Joseph Nevins , René Henry Gracida , and Felipe de Jesus Estevez Callelinea 20:42, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Working Man's Barnstar

The Working Man's Barnstar
I hereby award you the Working Man's Barnstar for all that you do to ensure that Wisconsin locations are well-represented in Wikipedia. Your edits are always first class. Congratulations! Royalbroil 21:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] County templates?

From one geography-concentrated editor to another :-) Do you do any work with navigational templates? Of all states that have counties without navboxes, Wisconsin is the most complete: only ten counties lack them — Taylor, Trempealeau, Vernon, Vilas, Walworth, Washington, Waupaca, Waushara, Winnebago, and Wood. Could you create and place these templates, or find a Wisconsin-centered editor who could? Thanks! And by the way: you can use my county templates subpage to check on how many remain. Nyttend 02:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note about Richfield and the other communities; I've made the changes. Let me ask: do you know how properly to edit county templates? If not, I'd advise that you work with them in a sandbox; I don't know anything of coding, except what I've discovered from experience, and I've found it very easy to work with these ones. It would be easier for you if you could make the changes instead of having to wait until I was able to do it :-) Nyttend (talk) 20:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
You definitely didn't wait long to get working :-) One thing, however: since the point of a county navbox is to provide navigation from any of those places to any of those places, if you find a community that's not listed, would you be willing to add the template onto the community article? Nyttend (talk) 21:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Good job :-) I don't know much about other kinds of templates, so it might not be as easy to do those ones, but any US County Navbox-based template works the same way. Nyttend (talk) 19:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Nothing florid, nothing fancy. Just thanks: for the compliments, and for the support. I'll try to wield the Mop-and-Bucket with grace and humility. --Orange Mike 04:07, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hewitt

That editor is inexperienced and overenthusiastic, needs some help. & I explained to him on his talk page -- a number of us have been trying to offer assistance to him--dont take it personally. people do this to one or two towns a day, but usually not to such a substantial article. By the way, when you place a hangon, it is a good idea to give an explanation on the talk page as well just to make sure. -- (if you are wondering at the town I edited, a close relative lived there) DGG (talk) 22:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Wisconsin

I definitely plan to remain active in WikiProject Wisconsin! I don't think that I'll ever move outside of Wisconsin. I vacation in different parts of the state several times each year, and it's easy for me to shoot pictures. I also go to races all over the Eastern half of the state during the summer. Royalbroil 15:15, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

What's your $0.02 about the new external link to the Economic Support in the Sun Prairie, Wisconsin article? I think delete it. Royalbroil 01:22, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Melt the clouds of sin and sadness, drive the dark of doubt away!

Joy

Marlith T/C has given you a kitten! Kittens promote Wikilove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Share the WikiLove and civility with everyone and keep up the excellent editing! Send kittens to others by adding {{subst:Joy message}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Marlith T/C 05:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Janesville

You left me a message about vandalism you reverted on the Janesville, WI article. I'm a bit confused though; you reverted to my last edit, but left the vandalism message on my talk page rather than the talk page of the user who did the vandalism. Was there a specific reason you left the message for me rather than the person who did the vandalism? The change was a good catch, and I agree that 24.159.235.246 vandalized. I just don't understand why you told me. Thanks in advance for clarifying. WeisheitSuchen 20:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Campion High School

OK, fine, it´s a defunct school. You can add a category like "defunct jesuit educational institutions" from "jesuit education" (another case is Colegio Imperial de Madrid)...--Banderas (talk) 12:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Raymond Leo Burke

Answered on my talk page. --Kbh3rdtalk 20:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Readstown

Thanks for the note: I've restored the bits that you spoke of. Nyttend (talk) 15:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikibreak

You know that I always appreciate what you do and what you've done. I took a one week Wikibreak once when things got to be too much. A Wikibreak of couple of days of course are no big deal. I'm going to be doing the 2008 Great Midwest Trivia Contest this weekend starting at 10:00 tonight and ending on midnight on Sunday night/Monday morning, so I won't be around here much except as a consumer. A good way to deal with stressful situations here in Wikipedia is to ask for a third party that you trust to review and comment. Enjoy your wikibreak and see you on the other side! Royalbroil 14:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NHLs in WI

Hi RFD, thanks for ur note of appreciation on List of National Historic Landmarks in Wisconsin. I was happy to fill it out as far as it went. Your addition to the Hamlin Garland House is helpful already. As you see, many of the articles are very short now, the List itself is missing short text descriptions and pictures for most of the individual NHLs; if u are inspired to develop any of it further, please be bold and go ahead! I myself am focussed more on List of National Historic Landmarks in New York right now. Cheers, doncram (talk) 19:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tilleda, Wisconsin

Should I add a picture of the ice racing? I went there on Saturday. I took pictures of the cars racing and some poorer ones in the pits. Royalbroil 13:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Um, you mean ice racing, right? Should I use a great picture of a car(s) racing or one from the pits? I have another picture of an odd looking racecar that has a house in Tilleda in the background. Which of these sounds the most encyclopedic? Royalbroil 15:49, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Here's my flickr photostream [2] if you want to look at a few of the pictures. All are marked CC-SA. Royalbroil 15:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
The picture of the Waukau, Wisconsin mill could be used if anyone decides to write an article. I think I have a few pictures of the community, but it was a rainy day so they probably aren't very good. Royalbroil 18:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fond du Lac, Wisconsin

Would you look over the most recent edit to the article. I have been reverting the change as unsourced and controversial. Would you give your opinion? Should I recommend the article for semi-protection since this edit has happened by multiple anons? I probably shouldn't semi-protect it myself since I'm involved. Royalbroil 14:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your time. I have listed it at Requests for Page Protection, so we'll see what happens. The Point Place article claims that the actors have a Midwestern accent. I don't hear it. Imagine that! Royalbroil 14:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chilton

Please do not vandalize pages, as you did with this edit to Chilton (town), Wisconsin. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing. [[User: Garyskaff23(blab) 23:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I gave Garyskaff got a short block for violating WP:3RR / disruption. The content dispute was over Garyskaff adding a list of restaurants in Chilton, which is definitely non-encyclopedic. Garyskaff was warning RFD for removing the non-encyclopedic list. Royalbroil 23:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
It's hard to believe that you've been around this long before you had vandalism to your userspace! You can add that infobox if you want. Royalbroil 00:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Eagle Riverians

RFD, you are sure on the ball! Thank you for your input. I hope other wiki folks will be able to add more notables on the Eagle River article--Pjt48 (talk)

[edit] Oconto County template

With the Oconto County template, there was one small error that you made: you forgot to add the line "body4" to the template. Compare the current state of the template with your first edition. And don't think yourself stupid: it's an easy error to make, and I've done it plenty of times. Nyttend (talk) 19:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Crestview

Interestingly, there are two Crestviews in Wisconsin: one in Rock County, just north of Beloit (details here USGS GNIS: RFD) and the one you asked about (details here USGS GNIS: RFD). There's no real reason to delete a placename — even if it doesn't deserve an article, it should remain as a redirect. I'd advise you to do five things:

  1. Move Crestview to Crestview, Racine County, Wisconsin
  2. Merge Crestview's verifiable contents into the village article, making the previously-existent article into a redirect
  3. Create Crestview, Wisconsin as a disambiguation page
  4. Create a small page for the other Crestview and add it to the county template (if it's not within a village or city) or a redirect (if it is)
  5. Tell me when you're done, since "Crestview, Racine, WI" isn't a likely title, and no real reason to keep as a redirect, so I'll delete it.

Hope this is helpful! Nyttend (talk) 14:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Wisconsin barnstar

WikiProject Wisconsin Barnstar.png The WikiProject Wisconsin Barnstar
For all of your work creating new articles about Wisconsin, expanding existing articles, and defending them from vandalism, I hereby award you the WikiProject Wisconsin Barnstar. Wear it with pride! Royalbroil 19:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome. You do so much to keep things honest and to improve articles! Would you consider giving a WikiProject Wisconsin barnstar to User:Dual Freq? He/she gave me one which got the ball rolling. I didn't give one back because I didn't want it to look like a mutual admiration society. Besides, I've already given them a barnstar. Royalbroil 02:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Christianity

Hello RFD!

You are cordially invited to participate in WikiProject Christianity

The goal of WikiProject Christianity is to improve the quality and quantity of information about Christianity available on Wikipedia. WP:X as a group does not prefer any particular tradition or denominination of Christianity, but prefers that all Christian traditions are fairly and accurately represented.

You are receiving this invitation because you are a member of one of the related Christianity Projects and I thought that you might be interested in this project also - Tinucherian (talk) 06:44, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sconsin

Hey hey! Good to hear from you too. I will still be working on the Black Hawk War and related topics as well as Registered Historic Places, probably mostly in Illinois. I was in Galena, Illinois and the surrounding area on Saturday so I am working on some stuff related to that as well as still adding photos. I won't be as prolific but I am glad to be back around with a new outlook about things. IvoShandor (talk) 22:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I love the Galena area. It's so beautiful! Royalbroil 04:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
This was my first trip there, it's a couple of hours from DeKalb (where I live) and I am originally from Bloomington, Illinois so I never had the opportunity to visit before. Pretty much wanna live there now, I'm the artsy weirdo writer type so I think I would find it inspiring, a job at the Dubuque newspaper and I'd be set. :) The Washburne family is indeed quite interesting, the Elihu house wasn't open when I was there but I went through the Grant House and then drove to Elizabeth and went through the Apple River Fort, I went all over the county and I can't wait to get back there! Took a lot of pics and am working on the Galena Historic District (which unbelievably has no article) in my sandbox. IvoShandor (talk) 20:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I've been to Bloomington and DeKalb. Those downtown Galena images bring back some good memories, so thanks! Royalbroil 03:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Awarding barnstars

It's real easy! All that you have to do it start a section on their talk page and paste in the this: {{subst:Wisconsin Barnstar|message ~~~~}} , with replacing "message" with your message. That's it! If you can't think about what to say, just say thanks! Royalbroil 04:05, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar. I haven't done too much for the project recently, but thanks for noticing my past contributions. Thanks for all the work that you do for WikiProject Wisconsin. I've done some power plant stuff and lighthouse stubs in the past, I'll try to be more active in the project in the future. --Dual Freq (talk) 02:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Katharine Elizabeth Dopp

Hi! I saw the additions you made into Elizabeth Katharine Dopp article I started. Son of a Vermont Dopp living in Turkey, sister in SF. Nice to meet you. I feel that the categories could be extended. I can think of Category: American anthropologists, but there are certainly many other options. Cretanforever (talk) 04:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Many thanks for editing the article I submitted for Connie Clausen (from Neenah-Menasha!). I'm new to Wikipedia (as a contributor, that is) and I appreciate your help. Sangroncito Sangroncito (talk) 20:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fremont

I just noticed you added the co-ordinates for Fremont. If you can, go back and read the description. It says the village is in the town. Is that right??? Fremont is not that big. Is it a village or a town? Can it be both? Didn't want to edit tho...I wasn't sure.--Buster7 (talk) 23:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


RFD...Please read the article. It can't be both a town AND a village...or can it?--Buster7 (talk) 00:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


I just fried up some White Bass fillets from our Mothers Day excursion......MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM good! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buster7 (talk • contribs) 00:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page - the town article had been incorrectly redirected to the village in 2006 instead of being left as 2 articles since they are actually separate government units. I also left a message hoping to break up the two. When I think of Fremont, I think about the sturgeon spawning on the Wolf River in spring. Green Bay television used to show volunteers standing along the river banks making sure that people don't disturb the spawning. Royalbroil 01:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I see your reference to me :-) I'm sorry that I can't add the infobox; I really am inexpert at finding the necessary information for it. Nyttend (talk) 12:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphans

Hi RFD. I think you may be either confusing orphans with dead-end pages or misunderstanding the orphan criteria. Articles that don't have at least three links to them are considered orphans. For those purposes, links from disambiguation pages, lists, and pages not in mainspace do not count as links. Details are at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Orphanage#Criteria. Would you please read that and stop removing orphan tags form articles that actually are orphaned? If you'd like to remove the tags, please consider de-orphaning the articles first. Thank you. -- Avocado (talk) 22:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh, we posted to each other's talk pages at the same time. If you don't think these articles require any links to them, please take up the matter on the talk page of the orphanage. Thanks. -- Avocado (talk) 22:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Just letting you know I posted a response to your latest message in the discussion on my talk page. ;-) -- Avocado (talk) 00:45, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Seeing those towns that you've added to templates that Avocado tagged: were they deleted from the county articles some time before the county templates were made? It would seem odd that they got left off somehow otherwise. Nyttend (talk) 01:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I do not know if they were deleted from the county article. That possibility exists.Thank you-RFD (talk) 10:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Towns vs. villages/cities

I think it's important to note a well-sourced proof since there has been considerable confusion with non-Wisconsinites lately on the topic. My proof is New Holstein, Wisconsin versus New Holstein (town), Wisconsin. I took a picture of the town's hall and garage. The photo clearly says Town of New Holstein Hall and Garage. This photo was taken almost one mile north of the city on Tecumseh Road about 0.1 miles east of Wisconsin Highway 57 [3]. I recently added a paragraph on the city article from a book source that talks about how the city was originally named Altona, but that the stop on the railroad was named New Holstein because their was a similarly named post office in Altoona, Wisconsin. The city became renamed after the town that surrounded it! So there's proof on both articles of the difference. I can take a picture of the city hall if someone wants more photographic proof. I drove by it that same day and I took a picture of a historic marker next to the city hall. Another clearly labeled photographic proof is the Chilton city hall versus Town of Chilton town hall. Point anyone to my current post if they are confused about the difference. Royalbroil 17:19, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad that you enjoy these photos! I have been taking pictures of some the town halls in towns as I have been driving by them. I took pictures of most of the cities last year. I do go to different places in my other travels/vacation. I get out a lot this time of year driving to racetracks. I have gone to 11 different racetracks so far this year from Wausau and ice races at Tilleda to Jefferson to Luxemburg. Racing season starts around May 1st. Royalbroil 18:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)