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[edit] Notability of Tenielle cooper

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Hi, here about Tenielle cooper - there are no sources, no list of published works by ISBN, nothing to verify any of the assertions made in the article. Were you working from a published source? and if so, what was that source? Please post on the Afd page. KillerChihuahua^?!? 20:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. It would be appreciated if you would not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Tenielle Cooper. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. Russ (talk) 13:39, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Tenielle Cooper

The problem with the article just that it lacked sources, but that it lacked sources demonstrating the subject's notability, an important criterion for inclusion in Wikipedia. External links showing that she belongs to a law firm or wrote a pamphlet do not count, although they could be used to confirm facts in an article that was notable for other reasons. Before attempting to re-create the article, I strongly recommend you find some sources, preferably published sources, showing that she is notable. Are there newspaper articles about her advocacy work, for instance? Katherine Tredwell 12:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I found an article about a charity fundraiser she ran to raise funds and support a Homeless Shelter, single-handedly. I also see that her google footprint is pretty massive for someone not "noteworthy." Also, in those 5 sources I quoted 2 Bakersfield Californian newspaper articles where she won a multi-million dollar wrongful death verdict and was quoted about another. I was AT the show where she confirmed that she was offered the $25k for her piece and I've been aware of this person for a while. She used to date heir to the empire of Patagonia, Inc., Fletcher Chouinard (pro surfer, eco-corporate royalty), and she is photographed all over, but she gives psuedonyms. I'm telling you, this will break eventually. I just wanted it to start. She's like, a neo-Warhol. And for the sake of sources - there is the california bar webpage, the two separate newspaper articles about her wins in consumer advocacy, her work on the massive yamaha rhino rollover products liability class action cases (web and print articles), the charity fundraiser article, etc, etc. i had like 6 sources cited. If it's restored, I can try to edit the content.

From the Deletion policy page: "If you believe a page was wrongly deleted, or should have been deleted but wasn't, or a deletion discussion improperly closed, you should discuss this with the person who performed the deletion, or closed the debate, on their talk page. If this fails to resolve the issue, you can request review of the closure at Wikipedia:Deletion review. ... If an article was deleted for lacking content or for having inappropriate content (this applies to most speedy deletions) and you wish to create a better article about the same subject, you can simply go ahead and do so, with no need for review. It is especially wasteful to go to deletion review over an unsourced stub when the alternative of creating a sourced article is available."

If you have a copy of what you wrote, or can reconstruct it without too much trouble, you would do better to start fresh rather than insisting on the page being restored. However, I strongly urge you to improve the content before putting it up on Wikipedia as a new page. For instance, use reliable sources to establish that she is well known in media outlets under pseudonyms. Explain why her big cases make her more notable than all the other lawyers with big cases, and give the citations to support your claims. Above all, make sure you understand the guidelines at WP:BIO and that your article adheres to those standards, especially that your sources provide non-trivial biographical coverage. I think this is the point you are missing. Now that the article has been deleted once, you may have to work a little harder to establish notability. Katherine Tredwell 16:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)