Talk:Retail loss prevention
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[edit] Article needs NPOV
user:68.104.219.22 aka user:Tom Fearer submitted a great deal of material for this article, that appears to be accurate, and relevant. Though he has negated the wikipedia NPOV policy; writing in 1st person, and referencing his email address in the article itself. I started rewriting for NPOV, and wikified. Got as far as Shoplifting. I will contact said user and suggest that help with the rewrite, and possibly include his info in the references section. --R Lee E - 
20:44, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
- Can we get a reference to "studies like the Uniform Crime Report" please? --R Lee E - 21:02, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
And may I suggest to Tom Fearer that you include your name and contact info down in the references section - in addition, any credentials you may have. Since the bulk of this article is coming right out of your mouth/hands, we should feel confident that the source is credible. --R Lee E - 21:49, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
To Tom Fearer One of the most comprehensive articles I have found on Wikipedia so far. Thank you Tom. I have dared using some of your thoughts within my site Shoplifting in Germany], which hopefully you will enjoy from a professional's point of view. As mentioned above there is no way to contact you directly.
[edit] Referencs?
Try again on the references and do not point to User: Fplay 05:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Type A LP employee
I used to work in a large national retailer. One day I saw one of the store's LP employees go and start a fight right out in the middle of the cash register lanes. Instead of trying to get the guy in a safe and responsible manner, the LP guy made it into a very public fight. Add to that he was a bouncer before taking the job at the store. After reading the article and seeing the thing on the Type A employee I realized that the employee in question most likely fell into this type.
JesseG 20:06, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] How to steal
"Most amateur shoplifters tend to spend too much time selecting merchandise and looking for investigators, thus making them much more likely to be detected. Professional shoplifters on the other hand tend to already know what merchandise they wish to steal and move quickly to get it. A common technique used by professional shoplifters is called a "grab and run", in which the shoplifter quickly enters the store, grabs an item, and runs out of the store. Due to the quickness of this technique, professional shoplifters are difficult to catch."
So a quick guideline on the best way to steal something?
Tom Fearer: When I wrote the majority of this article I wanted the truth about how we in LP investigate people to be out there for reader consumption. Far be it from me to preach the morals about not committing crimes and letting the reality of the subject be smoothered by it. Morality of shoplifting was not something I was interested in when I wrote this article. In fact, its safe to say shoplifting has kept me employed my entire adult life. Besides, the shoplifting article provides a lot more information that might be used as a guide so to speak for shoplifters.
[edit] More tips, even better
"duct-taping the holes through which the ink comes out and then removing the tag with pliers"
[edit] Safety Section
Since safety is becoming larger part of the Loss Prevention roll at most companies I decided to include a section in the article. I cited what I could from the companies I've worked for in the past but, I think it be cool if someone could dig up some statistical data on losses from Workman's and General Loss claims. (unsigned)
The article presents a very narrow view, even for the retail sector. In much of industry, Loss Prevention is action and expenditure taken by companies to prevent financial loss from fires, floods and other interruptions to business. Theft is of course on form of loss to be prevented. Nowadays, injuries to employees or pollution of the environment can prove extremely expensive. See for example "Loss Prevention in the Process Industries" by Frank Lees. The Loss Prevention Foundation focus on theft, but they do not own the term.Chemical Engineer 20:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
I have just checked some economics and insurance journals, who definitely talk about loss prevention as, well, preventing losses of all sorts. Indeed as theft is one loss, but harder to insure against. Insurers also talk of loss prevention meaning, essentially, that they do not wish to pay out on policies! I think we need a new page on the general topic of loss prevention, pointing to this one as a specific euphemism in (I suppose)US shops. The bald statement that it only refers to private investigators and retail theft is I submit not suitable for an encyclopedia.Chemical Engineer 20:29, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Most of what you have referred to in my experience was termed as "risk management" up until the last ten years or so. Case in point, my grand father worked for the Chevrolet car division and his job was to reduce excess spending and improve profitability at the factories. Nowadays this position would likely be termed as "loss prevention," however at the time his title was "manager or risk management." Personally I have observed the term "loss prevention" deviate into several distinct groups, what the context of this article refers to is what is known as "retail loss prevention." I agree that there are several other forms of loss prevention out in the business world today. The two that come to mind for me are "resturant loss prevention," "supply chain loss prevention," and even "credit fraud loss prevention."
Tom Fearer August 27th 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom Fearer (talk • contribs) 15:24, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Removing most of "personality type" stuff
This section is certainly interesting, but I have big qualms with leaving it as-is, without any sort of citations. I'm removing the stuff that contains the most POV. I'm sure it would be fine to add it back in, if a source could be cited. Jessicapierce 23:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm actually shocked that after almost a year and half nobody saw fit to remove the personality type section. I wrote most of the meat of the article and kinda figured it would be one of the first things to go, because it was based off my personal observations I've made of LP staff during my career. Tom Fearer March 28th 2007
