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ARASZKIEWICZ, Aleksandra, living in Cisie, near Ceg³ów, Siedlce prov. A sizable group of Jews from Ceg³ów took refuge in the village of Cisie, (incl. Esther, Yoyne Mendel and the baby Jab³onka Goldstein) as well as Jews who escaped from the "death trains" to Treblinka via aCeg³ów. On June 28, 1943 raids were carried out on the village by the military police

from Miñsk Mazowiecki, during which 25 Poles, incl. railwaymen, were snatched from their homes, together with numerous Jews they sheltered and

murdered: Marcin D¹browski, Franciszek Fiutkowski, Aleksander G¹sior,

Henryk Gergera, Rozalia Jaworska with her 2 years old daughter, Tadeusz

Lipiñski, Zygmunt Ma³us, Stanis³aw Pe¿yk, Tomasz and Sylweriusz P³atek,

Edward R¿ysko, W³adys³aw Saski, Eugeniusz Skwieciñski, Marian and Piotr Smater, Jan Szczêsny, Józefa Szyperska, Aleksandra W¹sowska, Jan and ,

Mieczys³aw W¹sowski, W³adys³aw Wójcicki, Jan Zagañczyk and Ludwik Zaj¹c. Wies³aw Walczewski was arrested the same day, but shot in January 1944. The VILLAGE WAS BURNT DOWN. (see: 92, 124, 141-142, 186- 187, 332, 361. 456, 470-471, 536, 539, 560, 564-565, 597, 604, 630, 635-637, 677, 693, 696)

[edit] Jews in Finland

I wonder if Finland as whole should be added to the list, since Finland didn't deport her citizens to Germany, even though Finland was Germanys ally and Germans made demands of that. Actually, several hundred Finnish Jews fought in Finnish army through the war and they had their own field-synaqoque. http://www.uta.fi/~tuulikki.vuonokari/fin-1.html

[edit] Folke Bernadotte

Doesn't Folke Bernadotte belong on this list? I know he wasn't very popular shortly before his assassination, but I know he did save a significant amount of Jews during the Holocaust. If everyone doesn't mind, I'll add him to the list, and if there's a significant dispute, everyone can discuss whether he should be on the list or not. - Gilgamesh 11:42, 24 July 2004 (UTC)

Yad Vashem lists 17,000 people who they recognize. There are many more who they don't, and the director of the Righteous Among the Nations Department has told me that there are about 25 thousand people who would meet their rigid standards. There are many others who do mot meet the standards, or who are controversial. That said, do we want articles for all of them? Do we want a list for all of them? Just wondering. Danny 11:46, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I don't know anything about Yad Vashem. I thought it would at least be alright to include people who saved larged numbers of Jews, in the thousands. And Folke Bernadotte meets that criterion. - Gilgamesh 03:16, 25 July 2004 (UTC)

[edit] A link of interest

[edit] Budapest Memorial

Holocaust Memorial Budapest

Regarding this Place: Testimonies from the family Jakobovics in newspapers 1947

http://www.spacetime-sensor.de/wallenberg.htm

people who assisted

[edit] Italians in Salonica

I read that Italian diplomats in German-occupied Salonica claimed that many Sephardim were Italian citizens (hence protected by the Kingdom of Italy) aducing that their Ladino surnames were actually Italian. This policy was authorized by Fascist leaders varying along the swings in Axis internal relationships.

[edit] Simeon Pukalski

Simeon Pukalski - Bulgarian peasant, who saved a jewish couple with two children

No google hits. Bogdan | Talk 12:51, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of holocaustforgotten.com link

At first glance, the work of Ms. Pencak (owner of holocaustforgotten.com) seems full of merit to me; however, 1. I can't see how a direct link to a website discussing the non-jewish victims of the Holocaust belongs, without any comment, at the bottom of a "List of people who helped Jews during the Holocaust". It's just non-relevant at all. 2. The website of Ms. Pencak tries to make a point: the non-jewish, polish victims of the Holocaust are "forgotten" outside of Poland. This is someone's opinion (and probably a US-centered one), and such a website should not be linked to, anywhere on wikipedia, without appropriate comments and context.

[edit] Requested move (People vs. Non-Jewish People)

I don't mean to be nitpicky, or start a heated argument, but doesn't the title of this article exclude jews who assisted other jews during the holocaust from being considered people? Nor is it a list anyone who held a door open for a jew during the holocaust, so "assisted" might be a bit of an understatement. There's a link to Righteous Among the Nations, but that's an honorary title which may not apply to everyone on this list. Maybe "Righteous Gentiles" would be a more accurate term? -- TheMightyQuill 16:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the list seems somewhat dishevelled at present. Perhaps there needs to be two articles, one for named individuals and the other for organisations etc, that are linked to each other and also watched to ensure any additions maintain the distinction. A "List of Righteous Among the Nations from World War II" might also be viable. (I'd say "Righteous Among the Nations" = "Righteous Gentiles", but am not sure.)  Regards, David Kernow 17:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Feel free to move it wherever you wish, but I've got no clue where to... —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 07:15, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
List of those who acted to save people from the Holocaust —204.42.20.62 20:59, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Doesn't sound quite right to me... —Nightstallion (?) 07:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Abdol-Hossein Sardari

Can someone create a article about him? He was the head of the consular section of the Iranian embassy under the Vichy government, he succeeded in convincing the Nazis that Iranian Jews were not Semites, thus saving their lives. He also went a step further and issued 500 Iranian passports to non-Iranian Jews in France. Nokhodi 08:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Corrie ten Boom

Corrie ten Boom is only slightly famous for her assistance to Jews during the Holocaust. --Midnightcomm 22:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gilberto Bosques Saldívar

I have added the name of Gilberto Bosques Saldívar (1892-1995) to the "Leaders and diplomats" list. He was Consul of Mexico on Marselle, France, between 1939 and 1943. He is credited with saving around 40,000 Jews, resistance leaders and political refugees by issuing visas allowing them to travel to Mexico or other countries. Because of this activities, and despite being a diplomat, on 1943 he was imprisoned by the Nazis and sent to Germany along with his family. They were set free a year later and returned to Mexico. He died on 1995, at the age of 103. For his humanitarian labor, since 2003 a boulevard in Vienna bears his name. For more information, see http://www.raoulwallenberg.net/?en/saviors/diplomats/bosques/, http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=15806 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Henio hp (talk • contribs) 12:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Repetitive with list of Righteous Among the Nations?

What figures are listed here that are not included on list of Righteous Among the Nations? I imagine that there are several, but it is hard to imagine that their selection is in any way objective and not original research. If there are similar forms of recognition to RATN, they should have a list to, but my general feeling is that Wikipedia is not in a position to create a novel list that requires deciding who assisted Jews during the holocaust. Savidan 23:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)