Wikipedia talk:Requests for checkuser/Case/Bluegold

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These pair of users should not be entertained with their request. I did very little or nothing to these users, maybe just to hurt their pride a little. Maybe I just picked a provocative name that's getting under their skin (a name I must reconsider in light of their reaction, see Irish language page and Irish language talk page). If you study my edits, you will see that there has been no violation or vandalism on my part. My IP address never starts with 6 (as stated above)and always begins with an 8, and it varies from time to time. And User:84.245.75.24, I have traced to Slovakia, not local to me, and was most disgusted at some of it's edits. A complete storm in a teacup. Thanks No More POV Please 00:34, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

IMHO, there isn't much room to doubt the use of bad faith socks among the 5 users, but I readily admit the possibility than one or two may just be coincidences. However, on Talk:Irish language I asked MacPhersonAndy (talk · contribs) if he was No More POV Please (talk · contribs). The reaction was interesting to say the least. Here's another opportunity, No More POV Please (talk · contribs), do you deny you are a sock? Admitting it now and saving hard-working wikipedians some distraction will go some way to compensating for the misdemeanors. If you aren't, I fully apologize for the accusation. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 01:54, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

There you go again Calgacus, alway having the last say. Actually don't know what it is, but there is something about I like, true! In a court of law the defendant always gets the last say, and that's me. It's you and your friend Angus McLellan who are wasting good Wikipedian time, as the outcomes of these 'investigations' can be uncertain to say the least. So you took the charges, now up to administration, and I believe the reasons for your case are flawed. No More POV Please 02:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Indeed it is. You shouldn't be worried if you are innocent. I offer you again the chance to deny sock puppetry. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 02:14, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

There you go, last word again. i am not worried, maybe you are! No More POV Please 02:19, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah yeah. Answer the question please; you only have a short opportunity, just say "no, I am not". - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 02:22, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Seriously, I have to now retire. yawn! No More POV Please 02:26, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Angusmclellan, I see 2 new addresses added, 72.21.56.146 (talk · contribs) and 72.232.89.58 (talk · contribs). Anyone looking at this spat could have used these to up the temperature on this topic. I am not buying! I'll say no more! No More POV Please 19:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh Calgacus, what's come over you? I got an email today about this. I know we had our differences, but this is something else! I don't have any puppets, and I am nobody's puppet either. See you on the boards Calgacus. Administration, please sort this out! Thanks! Bluegold 00:07, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey, why don't you get your other names "sent emails" so they can demonstrate on this page even more similarities in style. At least you have denied it, unlike your alleged socks MacPhersonAndy (talk · contribs) and No More POV Please (talk · contribs). It may be coincidence that you are listing users in exactly the same linked format (as you all do elsewhere too), and that you both refer to the checkers here as "administration", but if it is, then I apologize. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 22:18, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know what a sockpuppet was until today. I didn't know what a checker was until you mentioned it. Whizz! I'm learning fast! Now aren't you Calgacus and Angus McLellan often on the same page, maybe you 2 are sockpuppets to each other. Certainly you behaved like so on the Irish language page referred to above. Also I believe Angus McLellan has used bare IP numbers to make comment on certain pages. Does that make him/her a sockpuppet. BTW what's the violation anyway. Read the rules at the top of the page, you are supposed to make specific charges in relation to the use of the claimed sockpuppets. I see none! Bluegold 22:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Specific charges have been made. The charge is relevant and pertinent because on many occasions you and your socks have distorted the balance of consensus on particular pages (e.g. Harp, Irish language, Dál Riata) to try to push a Irish nationalist POV, and have purposefully misled people, having one back up the other, pretending one is Scottish, one English, one American and one Irish to try to fake neutrality. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 23:02, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me, I take very great umbrage about the use of your words 'Irish nationalist POV'. You are sinking very very low in my estimation by such remarks. In fact you have revealed to me a lot about yourself and your mask has now slipped. I adhere to the principle that all Wikipedian editors should strive for the highest standards possible. -Bluegold 23:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Bluegold (talk · contribs) has recently edited Finnian of Moville as 83.70.239.65 (talk · contribs). Compare the recent edit history of that page with this and this. As Bluegold is the more prominent of all the socks, Bluegold rather than No More POV Please (talk · contribs) should probably be identified as the sockmaster. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 02:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Also to note, I found yet another instance of multiple-socks backing each other up in a wiki talk page. On Talk:Migration Period art, Bluegold uses Bel air (talk · contribs) to back himself up. Compare Talk:Irish language where No More POV Please (talk · contribs) has MacPhersonAndy (talk · contribs) back him up, or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Middle Ages where Raspitin (talk · contribs) is made to back up Bel air (talk · contribs); compare Talk:Harp where most of his socks are used. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 03:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay! Am I not allowed to have any friends on Wikipedia? I'll cede one of the names mentioned above is a friend and workmate of mine, he joined to give me some support when he saw what I was up against. I am not going to tell who he is because that is private and in any case it's none of your business! Everything he wrote is of his own construct. Now you have a nice little bunch of friends that you call on to give support when needed, This so called teamwork of yours is doing damage to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is for everybody, not just you and your mates. I won't mention the names of your team here, only except Angus McLellan as mentioned earlier, there are at least 2 more, I don't want to go down your vicious little road. Though the edits Calgacus refers to on Finnian of Moville are not my edits, they are still perfectly good edits. I will continue to edit wisely, and to be honest, I am only writing here so that other Wikipedians can see my response, and not for you. -Bluegold 16:14, 22 April 2006 (UTC)