Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Great Irish Famine

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[edit] Statements made before the case was accepted

[edit] Statement by Swatjester

I don't consider myself an involved party, since all I did was warn a few people to stop using the RfC incorrectly, and then blocked MarkThomas in particular for it. However, I feel 100% that this belongs in arbitration. A) Mediation would never work on this. B) It's not over the article content, it's over the editing practices involved. C) This is a subject that for some people is as touchy as the israeli-palestinian conflict and needs ArbCom's guidance. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 13:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Statement by Goldheart

Although I don't see myself directly involved, I did have an interest in having a balanced inclusive objectivity woven into the article. I don't believe that there is any POV being pushed here, I believe it is more of a clash of EGOS, than an actual content dispute, and whose style is going to dominate in the editing. I believe Domer48 and Sony-youth are two worthy editors, but this ani and rfa etc is very wearying, and will deter future editors and input. User:MarkThomas has been particularly disruptive in the talk page, and has even attacked me for no reason whatsoever, on another related issue, on my talk page, Archive2/Reply.Gold♥ 18:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Holidays

I will be away on holidays until July 15. So may not be able to participate. I'd appreciate if any decision regarding me was held off before then. --sony-youthpléigh 22:50, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Based on the usual pace of arbitration cases, this is unlikely to be a problem. Have a good trip. Newyorkbrad 23:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
fyi - I'll be gone from July 16th to August 8th (sunny Italy!); so if I fail to reply don't shoot me in absentia! Regards (Sarah777 21:12, 8 July 2007 (UTC))
Enjoy your holidays, ye both and think of us sloshing around at home!...Gaimhreadhan(kiwiexile at DMOZ) • 20:31, 14 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Additional evidence

Hi. Upon suggestion from two editors after I made a wikiquette and rfc about MarkThomas (who is involved in this case) I have added evidence to the /Evidence page. Hughsheehy 15:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1 year proposed ban of User:Sarah777

I'm not a party to this Arb case so I'm not submitting evidence. However, I'd just like to comment that I personally feel that a 1-year ban on Sarah777 to be somewhat draconian, given the broader picture. Sarah has strong feelings about the famine situation and the whole genocide thing but has issues keeping her POV in check. This often manifests itself as frustration & she can be incivil, rude and disruptive. However, she's also an excellent and prolific contributor to Irish geographical articles[1] (one of the best, IMO) and is a great asset to the project. From a personal perspective, she would be sorely missed if a blanket ban is imposed and I respectfully request that all other avenues be explored before this drastic remedy is endorsed - Alison ☺ 19:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mentors

Archived here from Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Requests for clarification. Picaroon (t) 04:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Remedy 1.1 of the case calls for 3~5 administrators to serve as mentors... However, almost two months since the decision of the case, and no mentors have been chosen for the article. Could we do something about this? - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 23:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

As someone who just began editing Great Irish Famine a few days ago and immediately ran into problems that the earlier case was meant to address, I'd like to second Penwhale's call for action. Dppowell 03:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Mackensen made a request for volunteers at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement#Great Irish Famine. Problem is finding volunteers 3-5. Maybe we can get the current election candidates to do it? Picaroon (t) 04:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
That would be somewhat problematic, as the Arbitrators (which some of the candidates will presumably become) have traditionally avoided enforcing case decisions personally. I'd prefer to avoid setting up a situation where we'd need replacement mentors come January. Kirill 00:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I've emailed Mackensen offering to be a mentor, I personally think the mentors need to get cracking ASAP - the articles locked now and after scanning through it, there seems to be quite a bit of disruption on the page. Ryan Postlethwaite 00:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The committee has appointed Daniel (talk · contribs), Ryan Postlethwaite (talk · contribs), and Angusmclellan (talk · contribs) as mentors to Great Irish Famine in fulfillment on Remedy 1.1. For the committee, Mackensen (talk) 18:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)