Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Rejected/22

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Contents 1 Soviet occupation of Romania 1.1 Involved parties 1.2 Articles involved 1.3 Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted: 1.4 Issues to be mediated 1.5 Parties' agreement to mediate 1.6 Decision of the Mediation Committee 2 Clement of Ohrid 2.1 Involved parties 2.2 Articles involved 2.3 Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted: 2.4 Issues to be mediated 2.5 Additional issues to be mediated 2.6 Parties' agreement to mediate 2.7 Decision of the Mediation Committee 3 Sicilian Defence 3.1 Involved parties 3.2 Articles involved 3.3 Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted: 3.4 Issues to be mediated 3.5 Additional issues to be mediated 3.6 Parties' agreement to mediate 3.7 Decision of the Mediation Committee 4 Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion 4.1 Involved parties 4.2 Page involved 4.3 Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted: 4.4 Issues to be mediated 4.5 Parties' agreement to mediate 4.6 Decision of the Mediation Committee 5 Pampers 5.1 Involved parties 5.2 Articles involved 5.3 Issues to be mediated 5.4 Additional issues to be mediated 5.5 Parties' agreement to mediate 5.6 Decision of the Mediation Committee 6 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart 6.1 Involved parties 6.2 Articles involved 6.3 Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted: 6.4 Issues to be mediated 6.5 Additional issues to be mediated 6.6 Parties' agreement to mediate 6.7 Decision of the Mediation Committee 7 Phi Kappa Psi 7.1 Involved parties 7.2 Articles involved 7.3 Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted: 7.4 Issues to be mediated 7.5 Additional issues to be mediated 7.6 Parties' agreement to mediate 7.7 Decision of the Mediation Committee 8 Valencia (autonomous community) 8.1 Involved parties 8.2 Articles involved 8.3 Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted: 8.4 Issues to be mediated 8.5 Additional issues to be mediated 8.6 Parties' agreement to mediate 8.7 Decision of the Mediation Committee 9 List of notable converts to Christianity 9.1 Involved parties 9.2 Articles involved 9.3 Some steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted: 9.4 Issues to be mediated 9.5 Additional issue to be mediated 9.6 Parties' agreement to mediate 9.7 Decision of the Mediation Committee 10 Prem Rawat 10.1 Involved parties in the dispute 10.2 Articles involved 10.3 Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted: 10.4 Issues to be mediated 10.5 Additional issues to be mediated 10.6 Parties' agreement to mediate 10.7 Decision of the Mediation Committee

[edit] Soviet occupation of Romania

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[edit] Involved parties

• Anonimu (talk · contribs)
• Biruitorul (talk · contribs)
• Daizus (talk · contribs)
• Dpotop (talk · contribs)
• Irpen (talk · contribs)
• Petri Krohn (talk · contribs)
• Turgidson (talk · contribs)
• Vecrumba (talk · contribs)

[edit] Articles involved

• Soviet occupation of Romania (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

[edit] Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• Discussed at length on the talk page since March 26
• Third opinion sought and given

[edit] Issues to be mediated

• Is it proper to refer to the Soviet military presence in Romania from 1944 to 1958 as an "occupation"?
• Should the article be split?

[edit] Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected. Only signatures and "agree" or "disagree" should appear here; any comments will be removed.

1. Biruitorul 19:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC) Agree.
2. Daizus 21:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC) Agree.
3. Turgidson 22:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC) Agree.
4. Dpotop 15:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC) Agree.
5. Petri Krohn 11:27, 15 April 2007 (UTC) Agree.
6. Pēters J. Vecrumba 22:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC) Agree.

[edit] Decision of the Mediation Committee

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Reject, parties did not agree to mediation within 7 days (or 10 days, for that matter).

For the Mediation Committee, Daniel Bryant 09:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clement of Ohrid

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[edit] Involved parties

• FunkyFly (talk · contribs)
• Domitius (talk · contribs)
• Martin taleski (talk · contribs)

[edit] Articles involved

• Clement of Ohrid (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

[edit] Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• Discussion in the talk page of the article

[edit] Issues to be mediated

• The ethnic origin of the Saint

[edit] Additional issues to be mediated

• Bulgarian - Macedonian dispute for History

[edit] Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected. Only signatures and "agree" or "disagree" should appear here; any comments will be removed.

1. Martin taleski 01:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC) Agree.

[edit] Decision of the Mediation Committee

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Reject, parties did not agree to mediation within 7 days.

For the Mediation Committee, Daniel Bryant 09:41, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sicilian Defence

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[edit] Involved parties

• FrozenPurpleCube (talk · contribs)
• Sjakkalle (talk · contribs)
• Quale (talk · contribs)
• 24.177.112.146 (talk · contribs)
• EliminatorJR  (talk · contribs)
• Bubba73  (talk · contribs) (I'm adding myself, having been involved in several similar articles.)

[edit] Articles involved

• Sicilian Defence (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

[edit] Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• Discussion on Talk page of the article
• Discussion with various involved users
• Discussion at the Chess Wikiproject
• RFC (no responses) [1]
• AFD's made on certain articles in the Category:Chess openings
  • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alekhine's defense, Modern variation, 4...Bg4
  • Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav attack, 10.O-O-O

[edit] Issues to be mediated

• Whether or not Sicilian Defense in its current form has how-to/instructional information that should be removed or edited on it
• How to increase the accessibility of this page to multiple users by use of descriptive language to supplement algebraic notation
• Since this page is one example of category with these problems over a variety of pages, it might be necessary to determine the course of action to proceed with regarding the whole category.
• Problems with personal attacks

[edit] Additional issues to be mediated

[edit] Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected. Only signatures and "agree" or "disagree" should appear here; any comments will be removed.

1. Agree. FrozenPurpleCube 14:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

   I going to have to think seriously about whether mediation is worthwhile, but I won't stand in the way against it if the other people listed here agree to it. At present, all the responses on the Sicilian talk-page have been that the article is not a too-technical how-to guide to playing that chess opening, and that Manticore above has stubbornly refused to accept that, much of it due to the presence of algebraic notation. I will apologize to Manticore the terseness of some of my comments. My posts here and here as well as my use of the word "horrible" in the edit summary here were at least bordering on the edge of civility, and I should not have done that. However, I do think Manticore ought to familiarize himself somewhat with the subject matter before proposing wide-scale and sweeping changes to the chess articles. Sjakkalle (Check!) 15:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

   Since the others have said agree, and I said I would not stand in the way, I agree witht the same concerns as EliminatorJR and Quale. Sjakkalle (Check!) 12:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

2. Changed my mind, I will no longer agree to mediation. I will give reasons if requested. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
3. I agree, but I have major concerns over this RfM. EliminatorJR ^Talk 17:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
4. OK. I don't think this will help, and in fact I don't think there are any real issues here at all, but it shouldn't hurt either. Quale 03:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
5. Agree. Bubba73 (talk), 04:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decision of the Mediation Committee

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Reject, parties do not agree to mediation.

For the Mediation Committee, Daniel Bryant 09:23, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion

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[edit] Involved parties

• Radiant! (talk · contribs)
• Netscott (talk · contribs)

[edit] Page involved

• Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

[edit] Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• Extensive, extensive, talk on nearly all related pages (include WP:DR)
• Avoidance of the issue.
• 3O concerning shortcuts surrounding this page.
• latest discussion of the matter

[edit] Issues to be mediated

• Should a formal merging of Wikipedia:Straw polls and Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion under the new name Wikipedia:Polling occur?

[edit] Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected. Only signatures and "agree" or "disagree" should appear here; any comments will be removed.

1. (→Netscott) 12:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC) Agree.

[edit] Decision of the Mediation Committee

Rejected, the following is from the Mediation Policy:

Mediation is not a forum for policy decisions. If the locus of the dispute is not covered by current policy, the matter must be referred to the Wikipedia community as a whole. Under no circumstances will mediation between a small number of parties be substituted for a valid community-wide exercise in consensus building.

I recommend posting information on the Village Pump or the Centralized Discussion pages (if you have not already done so).

For the Mediation Committee, ^demon^{[omg plz]} 18:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Neither of these pages are actually suited to centralised discussion at this point in time. Many current wikipedians do not sufficiently understand the subject area :-/ /Sending them central would cause huge quantities of heat and no light. An IAR Speedy Deletion would then be the preferable option. --Kim Bruning 19:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Pampers

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[edit] Involved parties

• Grungebob (talk · contribs)
• Uppitycrip (talk · contribs)

[edit] Articles involved

• Pampers (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

[edit] Issues to be mediated

• There is an editing war going on over the existance of size 7 pampers, please note this link Pampers 7

[edit] Additional issues to be mediated

None listed.

[edit] Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected. Only "agree" or "disagree" and signatures should appear here; any comments will be removed.

1. Agree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sovietcollector (talk • contribs) 22:58, April 24, 2007 (UTC)
2. Disagree Uppitycrip 19:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decision of the Mediation Committee

A member of the Mediation Committee will indicate acceptance/rejection/other relevant notes in this section. Non-mediators should not edit this section.

Note: The arguing and removal of text (now reverted) was out of order. If you wish to continue your dispute, as it clear you do (or, at least, 66.191.233.44 does), please do so in a venue other than this. Page semi-protected until it is deleted as a rejected case. Daniel Bryant 00:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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Reject, parties don't agree to mediation.

For the Mediation Committee, Daniel Bryant 00:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

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[edit] Involved parties

• Ryan Delaney (talk · contribs)
• Showjumpersam (talk · contribs)

[edit] Articles involved

• Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

[edit] Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• I attempted to discuss the dispute on Talk:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart#NPOV problems

[edit] Issues to be mediated

• Edit war over non-neutral content in the article Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, especially bald reversion without discussion
• Understanding of fundamental Wikipedia policies such as the Wikipedia:Neutrality policy and Wikipedia:No original research policy.

[edit] Additional issues to be mediated

None listed at present. 01:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected. Only signatures and "agree" or "disagree" should appear here; any comments will be removed.

1. Agree. --Ryan Delaney ^talk 03:51, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decision of the Mediation Committee

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Reject, parties did not agree to mediation within 7 days.

For the Mediation Committee, Daniel Bryant 06:37, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Phi Kappa Psi

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[edit] Involved parties

• SlamDiego (talk · contribs)
• Rjproie (talk · contribs)
• Samwisep86 (talk · contribs)

[edit] Articles involved

• Phi Kappa Psi (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

[edit] Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• Mediation Cabal

[edit] Issues to be mediated

• Whether the Controversy section should be kept or removed

[edit] Additional issues to be mediated

• Samwisep86 has been accused of having Rjproie as a sockpuppet

[edit] Parties' agreement to mediate

Samwisep86 18:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decision of the Mediation Committee

Reject: A) This request is premature, as the MedCab hasn't even responded to your request for their help, and B) The "additional" items is not within our purview.

For the Mediation Committee, ^demon^{[omg plz]} 05:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Valencia (autonomous community)

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[edit] Involved parties

• Casaforra (talk · contribs)
• Dúnadan (talk · contribs)
• Joanot (talk · contribs)
• Maurice27 (talk · contribs)
• Mountolive (talk · contribs)
• Physchim62 (talk · contribs)
• Toniher (talk · contribs)

[edit] Articles involved

• Valencia (autonomous community) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
• Balearic Islands (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (infobox issue only)

[edit] Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• Several hundred kB of discussion at Talk:Valencia (autonomous community) and Talk:Valencia (autonomous community)/Archive 4
• Occasional admin intervention to warn on civility and 3RR

[edit] Issues to be mediated

• Should the header to the infobox contain the Spanish name of the region as well as the Valencian/Catalan name?
• Should the lead section contain the comment: "Valencian (as Catalan is known in this territory)"?
• Should the the proportions of the Valencian flag used in this article be 1:2 or 2:3?

[edit] Additional issues to be mediated

None listed at present. 01:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected. Only "agree" or "disagree" and signatures should appear here; any comments will be removed.

1. Agree. Physchim62 (talk) 15:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decision of the Mediation Committee

Reject, no other users agreed within 7 days.

For the Mediation Committee, ^demon^{[omg plz]} 13:45, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

List of notable converts to Christianity

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[edit] Involved parties

• Bus stop (talk · contribs)
• Warlordjohncarter (talk · contribs) (John Carter)
• C.Logan (talk · contribs)
• Scottperry (talk · contribs)

[edit] Articles involved

• Bob Dylan (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
• List of notable converts to Christianity (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

[edit] Some steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

1. One of the parties in this disagreement has been temporarily banned on two occasions due to edit-war behavior regarding this issue, fortunately the editor in question has since refrained from any further such behavior.
2. A Request for comment was made, but no resolution evolved.
3. A nomination for the deletion of this article was recently made (should be resolved by about May 8th), but currently this does not appear to be likely to result in any resolution.

[edit] Issues to be mediated

• Issue 1 - Whether the subject Bob Dylan should be described as a Christian, and what if any "qualifiers" should be appended to such a description.
• Issue 2 - Whether the subject should be included on the List of notable converts to Christianity, and what if any "qualifiers" should be appended if it is found the subject should be.

[edit] Additional issue to be mediated

• Additional issue - What qualifies as a Wikipedia:Reliable sources in this instance, specifically regarding contemporary accounts of the subject's conversion.

[edit] Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected. Only "agree" or "disagree" and signatures should appear here; any comments will be removed.

1. Agree John Carter 16:09, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
2. Agree C.Logan 16:18, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
3. Agree Scott P. 01:28, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decision of the Mediation Committee

Rejected, parties did not agree within 7 days.

For the Mediation Committee, ^demon^{[omg plz]} 15:23, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Prem Rawat

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[edit] Involved parties in the dispute

• Andries (talk · contribs)
• Jossi (talk · contribs)
• Momento (talk · contribs)
• PatW (talk · contribs)
• Rumiton (talk · contribs)
• Sylviecyn (talk · contribs)
• Vassyana (talk · contribs)
• Smee (talk · contribs)

[edit] Articles involved

• Prem Rawat (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

[edit] Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted:

• Many RFCs were filed on this article about many issues, but not about this issue. In several cases, there was no reply to the RFCs.
• Extensive debate about which version to use as a basis for further improvement, but the two factions (mainly Momento versus Andries) do not come closer. I do not think that collaboration is possible when we cannot agree about which of the two highly divergent versions to use as a basis for further improvement.

[edit] Issues to be mediated

• Dispute about which version should be used as a basis for further improvement. A long old version that was developed in the course of years by many contributors or a new shorter re-write authored mainly by Momento.

[edit] Additional issues to be mediated

None listed. 08:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected. Only "agree" or "disagree" and signatures should appear here; any comments will be removed.

1. Agree. Andries 17:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
2. Agree. PatW 19:09, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
3. Agree. Sylviecyn 21:29, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
4. Disagree. [Comments removed]. Momento 22:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
5. Disagree. [Comments removed]. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
6. Agree. Smee 22:53, 11 May 2007 (UTC).
7. Agree. [Comments removed]. Vassyana 23:22, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decision of the Mediation Committee

A member of the Mediation Committee will indicate acceptance/rejection/other relevant notes in this section. Non-mediators should not edit this section.

I have aggressively refactored the above request, in particular the agreement section, to remove all discussion and comments, which is expressedly prohibited by Committee request on this page. The version previous to this can be seen at this link.

For the Mediation Committee, Daniel Bryant 08:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Reject, parties do not agree to mediation for a variety of reasons, with many of them expressing that mediation from the Mediation Committee is at present premature. It may be best to discuss on the article talk page possibly dispute resolution options, what limits and bounds to place on the scope of such options, and the parties involved, before proceeding with a further request at any body.

For the Mediation Committee, Daniel Bryant 08:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)