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[edit] Peter Yarrow

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Filed: 08:13, March 5, 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Involved parties

  1. Sarcasticidealist (talk · contribs), filing party
  2. Albion moonlight (talk · contribs)
  3. David in DC (talk · contribs)
  4. Jkp212 (talk · contribs)
  5. John celona (talk · contribs)
  6. Aleta (talk · contribs)
  7. Servant Saber (talk · contribs)

[edit] Articles involved

[edit] Other steps in dispute resolution that have been attempted

[edit] Issues to be mediated

The party filing this request uses this section to list the issues for mediation. Other parties can list additional issues in the section below.
  • What weight should be given to Yarrow's conviction for taking improper liberties with a 14 year old girl?
  • Should the length of the sentence (three years, all of which except for three months was suspended) be provided in the article?
  • Should the incident result in the article being placed in any categories (e.g. Category:American criminals, Category:American sex offenders, etc.)?

[edit] Additional issues to be mediated

Other parties can use this section to list any others issues they wish to include in the mediation. Please do not modify or remove any other party's listing. Please sign all additions to this section if there are more than two parties involved in this case.
    • Should the consensus version which was thoughtfully reached by many opposing editors through compromise be honored? --Jkp212 (talk) 17:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
  • What weight should President Carter's grant of clemency have? How should it be dealt with?
  • Does the word "groupie" belong in the article at all? In the encyclopedic text? In Yarrow's quote?
  • Does the article's shortness cause a problem with any mention at all, giving the incident "undue weight"?
  • If mention in the article is not undue weight, is inclusion of the categories? David in DC (talk) 02:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Should well-sourced prison sentences which were highly publicized campaign issues in a presidential election and the unseating of a 12 term Congressman be censored from an article even though they have been on the article by consensus for over 3 years? John celona (talk) 18:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Should a convicted and imprisoned sex offender be deleted from the "sex offender" category because friends or fans of the subject don't like him placed there on vague "weight" rationales? John celona (talk) 18:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • When the sources clearly show that a child molester's victim was forcibly molested should the article censor that fact while allowing the convicted molester's self-serving statement labeling his victim a "groupie"? John celona (talk) 18:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Should the controversial stuff be dealt with in a wiki fork where Blp becomes less of a factor ? : Albion moonlight (talk) 06:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Parties' agreement to mediate

All parties should sign below, indicating that they agree to mediate the issue. If any party fails to sign, or if a party indicates they do not agree, then the mediation will be rejected. Only "Agree" or "Disagree" and signatures should appear here; any comments will be removed, but can be made at the talk page.
  1. Agree. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 08:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. Agree. : Albion moonlight (talk) 09:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. Agree: --Jkp212 (talk) 17:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
  4. Agree - Aleta (Sing) 20:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
  5. Agree - David in DC (talk) 02:23, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  6. Agree - SABEREXCALIBUR! 05:05, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  7. Agree- John celona (talk) 00:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Decision of the Mediation Committee

A member of the Mediation Committee will indicate acceptance/rejection/other relevant notes in this section. Non-Committee members should not edit this section.
Accept.
For the Mediation Committee, AGK § 07:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree to take this case, though I am not a formal member of the Mediation Committee, as Ryan states below and do disclose that Sarcasticidealist (talk · contribs) and I have interacted in un-related fora. MBisanz talk 01:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Parties' agreement to MBisanz

MBisanz (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves • rights), an administrator, has expressed an offer to take this case during his application to join the Mediation Committee, to assist the Committee both with our backlog and to assess his nomination. However, as MBisanz is not a member of the Committee, it is a generally accepted practice that the parties must consent to a non-Committee member mediating a RfM.

As such, can I ask that all parties to the mediation please list whether they "agree" or "disagree" to MBisanz mediating below, in much the same format as the initial agreement above.

For the Mediation Committee, Ryan Postlethwaite 23:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
  1. Agree Aleta Sing 00:03, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. Agree. However, in the interests of full disclosure, I'm providing all examples of significant interaction I've had with MBisanz in the past (none of which I think in any way jeopardizes his ability to mediate this fairly): Earlier this year, we were closely allied on this discussion. I also participated in his request for adminship. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 00:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  3. Agree David in DC (talk) 02:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  4. Agree : Albion moonlight (talk) 04:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  5. Agree --Jkp212 (talk) 01:00, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
  6. Agree, however I am not active here anymore. Expect no participation from me unless asked for. Just agreeing here to let the others resolve the matter. --Servant Saber (talk) 02:04, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  7. Hold-I am going to have very limited internet access until Saturday morning, at which point I will agree to this non-binding mediation. If someone wants to put a reminder on my talk page Friday it would be helpfull. John celona (talk) 13:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)