Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/ScienceApologist

[edit] ScienceApologist (second case)

• ScienceApologist (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• 74.63.84.70 (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)

• Code letter: B
• Supporting evidence: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/ScienceApologist (3rd)

There have been concerns express that an opponent of SA may have used open proxies to frame ScienceApologist. The most recent sock of that user is Queue Pea Are (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser). It has been suggested that a checkuser may reveal information, such as user agent, that could potentially confirm the sockpuppetry of ScienceApologist or the abuse of open proxies to frame him. Vassyana (talk) 23:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I am trying to see how I can help, but there is not much CheckUser can say. Both Davkal and SA use the same user agent, at least on some of their internet connections, so that couldn't help tie the proxy to one or the other. There's nothing else really telling about the proxy, either, or anything interesting about SA's recent IPs. The one piece of information I uncovered was Monkey See Monkey Die (talk · contribs) and Niet Comrade (talk · contribs) are both Davkal sockpuppets. Dmcdevit·t 00:30, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ScienceApologist

• ScienceApologist (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• PouponOnToast (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)

• Code letter: B, F
• Supporting evidence: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/ScienceApologist

There appears to be possible block evasion [1] starting Feb 14, 2008. Any use of an alternate account by ScienceApologist would violate the account restriction from Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Martinphi-ScienceApologist.

We have a suspected sock puppet report with credible evidence, but it would help to have a checkuser opinion. Jehochman ^Talk 03:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Comment: I'm very doubtful, and have explained why in a comment at the SSP report. If a check is run, it might surprise me, but it would be a significant surprise. GRBerry 05:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

An accusation was made. There is at least some evidence. The easiest way forward is to get a technical opinion to help dispose of the accusation. Jehochman ^Talk 05:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Looking at the joined contributions of the two accounts [2], they are very consistent with a pattern of logging out of one account and then into another. I would agree that a check is warranted here. WjBscribe 05:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Potential area of overlap here:

1. 2008-02-12 17:49:40 by PouponOnToast (hist) (diff) Caney, Kansas (Undid revision 190939262 by Phlip888 (talk))
2. 2008-02-12 17:49:11 by ScienceApologist (hist) (diff) Talk:What the Bleep Do We Know!? (→Here's a better version - r)
3. 2008-02-12 17:48:49 by PouponOnToast (hist) (diff) Real estate investing (rewrite (mostly cut))

—Whig (talk) 06:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I know that a simple statement in such matters is rather worthless, but I do know that Poupon is not SA anymore than s/he is me.--MONGO 10:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Have to agree with Mongo here (I've been waiting like, forever to say that). It is highly unlikely that POT is SA. R. Baley (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

But now we are dealt with PoT's "retirement" --

"Obviously, I'll keep using the sock that I'm certain the checkusers found to go right on rvving and creating isoteric articles on things I find out about in my daily travails - and I'll use that sock as opposed to some other one so that the next time I find myself tempted to edit anything controversial at all [...]" Seicer (talk) (contribs) 17:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

diff for the quote Seicer is quoting. Diffs are always a good idea when quoting... GRBerry 18:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Unlikely - Alison ^❤ 07:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Deferred to another checkuser for second opinion here - Alison ^❤ 09:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

ScienceApologist and PouponOnToast are Unrelated. With respect to PouponOnToast, Checkuser is not for fishing Thatcher 01:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)