Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Oldwindybear

[edit] Oldwindybear

• Oldwindybear (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• Stillstudying (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• Finishedwithschool (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• Jonashart (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• Code letter: G

Reason for "G": Suspected sockpuppeteer is an admin, making this serious enough that I believe it warrants a checkuser first, rather than starting off with SSP.

Users come to each others' aid in editing disputes all the time, usually after a "let me get a third opinion" comment. Very, very similar editing and formatting styles. Both suspected socks voted in Oldwindybear's RfA (that wouldn't have made a difference, however).

Please check to see if the users can be tied to a single geographic area. My theory is that, based on the consistent 1 hour time delay between Oldwindybear's last post and Stillstudying's first post each day, and vice versa, (a pattern that has been followed with only two exceptions in the past 14 months), that the user is moving between different computers, either work/home, home/library, work/cybercafe, etc.

Diffs: Votes on Oldwindybear's RfA: Stillstudying: [1] Finsihedwithschool: [2]

Strange overreaction to New England's comment here on TomStar81's RfA Oldwindybear: [3] Stillstudying: [4]

First edit to user talk pages: Oldwindybear on Stillstudying talk page: [5]
Finishedwithschool on Finshedwithschool's talk page: [6]

The instructions say keep it short, so I'll stop now, but if anyone wants me to email a comparison of their editing histories, or add more evidence to this request, I will do so. If it is considered proper, I would welcome help in formatting this properly if i screwed it up. barneca (talk) 15:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Additional information: Checkuser is invited to review User talk:Barneca/Draft SSP report

Note GDonato (talk) added Jonashart (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser) 21:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Clerk note: moving the discussion to the talk page. Thanks. -- lucasbfr ^talk 19:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Note: Possibly relevant discussion on AN/I here. MastCell ^Talk 00:25, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Confirmed that Stillstudying is the same user as Finishedwithschool. (Not too surprising, given the names.) Jonashart and Oldwindybear are Unrelated -- no IP-relationship exists between them or the other two. Other than Jonashart, they're all in the same major metropolitan area. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 03:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, glad that settles that. I guess a user page stating that I live in VT isn't enough to convince people. That someone seemingly unrelated to the issue at hand was able to add my name to a list for no good reason strikes me as a serious flaw in this system. Was anything truly lost in all this? Other than time, patience, and perhaps an editor and admin? No, I guess not. But remember, no system is flawless. And when I'm erroneously involved in something because of one person's apparent quest for "the greater good", I'm going to have a problem with that. Let it be known, this admin never contacted me directly. Made no attempt to ascertain anything about me. Seems like he just made some dubious connection between two users and that was enough to check my ID. Big brother? Yeah, just a bit. I'm not that upset, but thought I'd pipe up in all this and point out how much time and energy can be wasted by people misusing their Wiki power. And if the argument is that GDonato acted as an admin should have in this case, I strongly advise a review on those rules. Someone should have at least had the commonsense to email me directly. A little common courtesy, perhaps? Hopefully, more admins are taking notes on this one. Blah, blah, blah.--Jonashart 03:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Y'know, with all the blah blah blah on the talk page, I somehow -- and clearly mistakenly -- got the idea that you, like everyone else listed, was saying "yeah, go ahead and do it". Sorry about that; though I must admit that all that I've learned from it is that you're from Vermont, which isn't really much of a secret. You're right about the principle, though. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 04:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Not to worry. I guess I'm glad it was done, as to reassure people that I am really, you know, me. Water under the bridge. Thanks for helping but it to bed.--Jonashart 12:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate whoever did the check-user, and that Jonashart and I have been vindicated. I am resuming my duties as an admin and editor immediately. I don't think anyone seriously suggested that SS edited for over a year, and over 500 edits, and if I was involved, that I would not, at some point, have used the same ip address, so as far as I am concerned, that, and the differing edit histories, (his interests and edits were substantially different than mine!) ends this matter. Thanks! old windy bear 10:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)