Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/REX/Evidence

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Anyone, whether directly involved or not, may add evidence to this page. Please make a header for your evidence and sign your comments with your name.

When placing evidence here, please be considerate of the arbitrators and be concise. Long, rambling, or stream-of-conciousness rants are not helpful.

As such, it is extremely important that you use the prescribed format. Submitted evidence should include a link to the actual page diff; links to the page itself are not sufficient. For example, to cite the edit by Mennonot to the article Anomalous phenomenon adding a link to Hundredth Monkey use this form: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anomalous_phenomenon&diff=5587219&oldid=5584644] [1].

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Contents 1 Evidence presented by {your user name} 1.1 <day1> <month> 1.2 <day2> <month> 2 Evidence presented by +MATIA 2.1 personal attacks 2.1.1 against me 2.1.2 calumnies against other users 2.1.3 REX and Arvanites 2.1.3.1 untitled 2.1.3.2 Arvanites 2.1.3.3 Arvanitika or Arvanitic language 2.1.4 more to come

[edit] Evidence presented by {your user name}

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  • What happened.

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  • What happened.

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  • What happened.

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[edit] Evidence presented by +MATIA

[edit] personal attacks

[edit] against me

• stating I don't want to be called far-right-anything
  • 17:14, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
  • 19:09, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
  • 13:48, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
• being called a far-right-something
  • 14:59, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
  • 12:23, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
  • 11:10, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
• being called a nazi - plain-vanilla
  • 23:14, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

• 18:44, 23 October 2005 (UTC) - brand new

• variety of subjects
  • 11:26, 2 October 2005 (UTC) according to User:REX I have "anti-social behaviour", "hypocrisy" etc
• falsely accussed of vandalism
  • 13:00, 27 September 2005 - REX had named the article Arvanitic language and I moved it to Arvanitika language. My edit summary: "Arvanitic language moved to Arvanitika language: The official name of this (AAT) language is Arvanitika"
• while blocked 23:06, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] calumnies against other users

• labels (mostly from his edit summaries I haven't checked yet his contribs of that period and I don't know if I can)
  • far-right
    • 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC) - talk page ("I can't help feeling that Wikipedia is being used to promote nationalism and (possibly misleading) propaganda in favour of Cornish Separatism" ... and a note on "Arbitration")
    • 15:23, 14 September 2005 (UTC) - edit summary ("He is probably a Scottish, Welsh or Irish nationalist")
    • 20:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC) edit summary and his edit (about Greeks)
    • invitations
      • 10:08, 30 September 2005 (UTC) - ("Greek extremists")
      • 10:11, 30 September 2005 (UTC) - ("Greek extremists" who "won't listen")
  • 8:42, 2 October 2005 (UTC) - his edit summary (again Greeks)
    • 10:19, 2 October 2005 (UTC) - nazi ("they are obviously one of these far-right Greek extremists who would rather see all Greece's minorities sent to Auschwitz...")

[edit] REX and Arvanites

[edit] untitled

• I've requested protection of Arvanitic language - ("I 'm afraid that User:REX will take his edit war regarding the already protected article Arvanites to Arvanitic language. See also Talk:Arvanites and Talk:Arvanitic language. Thanks.")
  • 20:10, 8 September 2005 (UTC) - ("MATIA this is your tactic. Abusing the system. Well both of us can play this game.")
  • 20:12, 8 September 2005 (UTC) - ("You don't have to worry, I won't take the edit-war to Arvanitic language as long as the POV message in at the heading. MATIA, You really shouldn't request protection of there is no edit war or vandalism going on.")
  • 20:47, 8 September 2005 (UTC) - continuing his edit war on Albanian language wiki.

[edit] Arvanites

• 14:40, 26 July 2005 (UTC) - "can we say Arvanitic Albanians as we say Tosk Albanians or Gheg Albanians? "
• 15:04, 27 September 2005 - REX moving Arvanitika language, to Arvanitika Albanian
• 17:00, 5 October 2005 - edit summary: Tweak! Greek POV has no place on this page" - comment: a revert-war, ignoring Arvanitic POV (more comments later)
• 14:05, 7 October 2005 - he told me later he removed these, because he believed I would object to the additions by that anonymous editor
• 16:57, 7 October 2005 - are an ethnic group descendant from settlers from southern Albania ... blanking the phrase They strongly dislike for their language to be called "Albanian" and also resent being called "Albanians". etc

comment: while this is suppossed to be a matter of linguistics the edit-war is on the article about Arvanites and not on their language Arvanitika.

• User:Ninio
  • 18:42, 7 October 2005 - REX reverting Ninio, misleading edit summary and removal of accurate phrases (check wiki's history for more similar examples)
  • 12:19, 7 October 2005 (UTC) - Ninio explaining to REX the problem with the figure of 180.000 Slavic speakers in Greece (I had given him links maybe 5 more times in the past)
  • 14:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC) - REX reporting Ninio for 3RR, and my comment

[edit] Arvanitika or Arvanitic language

During the last days the edit-war or whatever it should be called, has passed to Arvanitic language. +MATIA ☎ 14:19, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] more to come

I'll have to try to parse what I've gathered and post them here. I apologise again for the time I'll need. +MATIA ☎ 22:34, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I haven't gathered the needed diffs but please check Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/REX/Evidence#request. +MATIA ☎ 14:51, 2 November 2005 (UTC)