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[edit] Evidence presented by Neutrality
Please note that Old Right (inexplicably) uses two accounts: OldRight and Old Right. Evidence is cited from both; however, "Old Right" is used throughout.
[edit] Editing in bad faith/POV editing/Revert-warring
[edit] Joe Scarborough
- 20:36, Jun 7, 2005: Old Right removes the same paragraph. He marks the edit as minor and does not give an edit summary. [2]
- 18:58, Jun 1, 2005: Old Right removes the same paragraph. He gives the edit summary "case if irrelevent (sic) & including it is POV propaganda!." [3]
- 22:48, May 25, 2005: Old Right repeats his edit below (which was removed soon after he first edited it) and also removes an entire paragraph with the edit summary "removed irrelevent info." [4]
- 01:25, May 18, 2005: Old Right adds "a political moderate" to Joe Scarborough, which is nonsensical. [5]
[edit] The Passion of the Christ
- 21:29, Jun 5, 2005: Old Right edits The Passion of the Christ, removing from the "Controversy and Anti-Semitism" section "the film has also been criticized by several fundamentalist Protestant groups for its Catholic and Ecumenist overtones" and leaving the edit summary "rv nonsense propaganda." Later the text is restored. [6][7]
[edit] Rock Against Bush
- 11:40, Jun 11, 2005: Old Right reverts. He is soon reverted. [8]
- 07:57, Jun 6, 2005: More than two days later, Old Right returns to the article to pursue trivial disputes, changing "the election" to "re-election." He is later reverted. [9]
- 10:04, Jun 4, 2005: Radicalsubversiv, leaving the edit summary "Rhobite's correct, this is completely silly," restores Rhobite's version. [10]
- 16:26, Jun 4, 2005: Old Right, leaving the edit summary "Yes it is needed; to show the level of RAB's failure!" reverts Rhobite's simple, neutral version and restores his own. [11]
- 14:28, Jun 4, 2005: Rhobite, leaving the edit summary "no need for this," edits the paragraph to "The project was not successful, as President George W. Bush went on to win the election." [12]
- 20:58, Jun 3, 2005: Old Right edits Rock Against Bush, changing "the project was not successful, though the President George W. Bush only won by a slim majority in an extremely close election" to " The project was not successful, as President George W. Bush went on to win the election by a majority and received the most votes for any candidate in American history." He marks the edit as minor and does not leave an edit summary. [13]
[edit] Stephen Baldwin
- 21:04, Jun 3, 2005: Old Right repeats the edit, again leaving no edit summary. [14][15]
- 04:06, May 14, 2005: Old Right edits Stephen Baldwin, adding "in contrast to his ultraliberal brother Alec," again leaving no edit summary. Soon afterward someone NPOVs the text. [16]
[edit] Katherine Harris
- 19:00, May 26, 2005: Old Right edits Katherine Harris, removing an entire section on Harris's views of embryonic stem cell research with the edit summary "irrelevent" (sic). [17]
[edit] Bill Maher
- 23:51, May 25, 2005: Old Right adds Category:Socialism to Bill Maher. Maher has never identified himself as a socialist and is generally identified as libertarian. No edit summary is given. [18]
- 02:11, May 5, 2005: Old Right makes assorted POV additions and removals from Bill Maher. [19]
- 16:47, Feb 23, 2005: Old Right changes "he also publically supports PETA, an organization that works for animal rights" into "He also publically supports PETA, an extremist animal rights organization that is often accused of terrorist methods." [20]
- 00:00, Feb 13, 2005: Old Right reverts. [21]
- 04:55, Feb 9, 2005: Old Right makes assorted POV edits to Bill Maher. He does not leave an edit summary and is soon reverted. [22]
- 20:55, Feb 5, 2005: Old Right edits the sentence "He supported Bob Dole in the 1996 U.S. presidential election and is close friends with conservative pundit Ann Coulter," removing the second part and leaving the edit summary "who his friends are is irrelevent to his politics!" [23]
- 20:53, Feb 5, 2005: Old Right makes assorted POV edits to Bill Maher. He does not leave an edit summary and is soon reverted. [24]
- 21:57, Oct 4, 2004: In a paragraph on Maher's views, Old Right changes "aggressive gun control" to "near-absolute gun control." [25]
- 13:15, Sep 8, 2004: Old Right removes, without explanation, the sentence "Maher has been an outspoken advocate of several political positions, but no notable overall ideology." He leaves no edit summary. [26]
- 13:15, Sep 8, 2004: Old Right makes an obviously POV edit to Bill Maher. [27]
[edit] Howard Stern
- 23:21, Jul 6, 2005: Old Right makes various POV additions, among which he repeatedly calls Howard Stern a "hypocrite".[28]
- 00:01, May 26, 2005: Old Right reverts. He is reverted soon afterward. He uses the edit summary "reverted edits by Boothy443 to last version by Old Right," whcih misleadingly implies that he is an administrator that is reverting vandalism. [29]
- 22:57, May 25, 2005: Old Right makes various POV additions. He is reverted soon afterward. [30]
- 07:31, May 17, 2005: Old Right adds "a militant atheist" to Howard Stern. [31]
- 18:03, May 7, 2005: Old Right adds Category:Racism to Howard Stern. No edit summary is given. [32]
- 01:29, Apr 29, 2005: Old Right reverts. [33]
- 18:32, Apr 28, 2005: Old Right makes a POV addition, citing a blog as a source for the statement that "many people" think one of Stern's comments "backfired." No edit summary given. He is reverted soon afterward. [34]
- 23:32, Mar 27, 2005: Old Right adds "in fact, it is quite possible that he is one of the many celebrities that alienated voters into not voting for Kerry" and gives a link to a blog. He does not give an edit summary. [35]
- 23:11, Mar 26, 2005: Old Right removes a sentence from Howard Stern without leaving an edit summary. [36]
- 05:23, Mar 8, 2005: Old Right adds a link to a critical blog entry from the Howard Stern article. [37]
[edit] Bill O'Reilly (commentator)
- 22:43, May 12, 2005: Old Right makes an edit to Bill O'Reilly (commentator) of questionable veracity, changing a statement into its opposite. No sources are cited and no edit summary is given. [38]
- 17:27, Jan 20, 2005: Old Right adds an irrelevant, unsourced "some people have pointed out" sentence. [39]
[edit] Pat Buchanan
- 01:36, May 13, 2005: Old Right makes a POV addition to Pat Buchanan. [40]
- 01:36, Apr 14, 2005: Old Right adds {{TotallyDisputed}} to Pat Buchanan but does not register his objections on talk or leave an edit summary. [41]
- 14:06, Apr 12, 2005: Old Right makes another his edit similar to the two below. He does not leave an edit summary. [42]
- 14:05, Apr 12, 2005: Old Right makes another his edit similar to the one below. He does not leave an edit summary. [43]
- 19:31, Apr 11, 2005: Old Right removes unflattering but factualy and neutral information from Pat Buchanan. He also adds "wholly unsubstantiated" to a paragraph on Buchanan and accusations of racism and anti-Semitism. His edit summary is "Revert POV." [44]
- 01:58, Nov 8, 2004: Old Right changes "is a conservative journalist and television political commentator from the United States" to "is an American conservative journalist and the greatest television political commentator in American history." He does not leave an edit summary. [45]
[edit] Chris Matthews
- 22:20, May 13, 2005: On Chris Matthews, Old Right makes an edit verging on vandalism, removing the following paragraph:
- Despite working for Democrats, Matthews has said, "I'm more conservative than people think," and "I've voted Republican many times, (including) George W. Bush in 2000." (October 3, 2003, "Hardball")
Replacing it with:
- A political liberal, Matthews has been very vocal about his pro-choice stance. No edit summary is given. [46]
- 01:16, Apr 20, 2005: On Chris Matthews, Old Right makes an edit adding "a staunch Democrat" and repeatedly adding "Democrat" in front of the name of ever person Matthew worked for. [47]
- 14:54, Apr 14, 2005: On Chris Matthews, Old Right adds "a political liberal, Matthews is very vocal about his pro-abortion stance." [48]
[edit] Category:Propaganda films
Old Right added the following articles to Category:Propaganda films:
- Roger & Me: [49]
- Fahrenheit 9/11 1/2 (despite not being released yet): [50]
- Sicko (despite not being released yet): [51]
- Bowling for Columbine: [52]
- Fahrenheit 9/11: [53]
[edit] John Kerry presidential campaign, 2004
- 16:58, Apr 17, 2005: Old Right edits John Kerry presidential campaign, 2004, changing "conceded the race" to "conceded his defeat in the race." [54]
[edit] Ann Coulter
- 00:40, May 31, 2005: Old Right edits Ann Coulter, inserting "very attractive" in the lead section. [55]
[edit] John R. Bolton
- 19:26, Apr 13, 2005: Old Right removes "conservative" from John R. Bolton, even though he is universally recognized as being a conservative and has described himself as one. He does not leave an edit summary. [56]
- 23:21, Apr 11, 2005: Old Right removes "and is considered a staunch conservative" from John R. Bolton, though he is indeed considered to be a staunch conservative. He does not leave an edit summary. [57]
[edit] Democratic Party (United States)
- 02:00, Jul 7, 2005: Old Right makes POV edit to Democratic Party (United States) talking about "the 'stranglehold' that the Democrats had over Hispanic voters."[58]
- 16:47, Apr 12, 2005: Old Right makes various POV edits to Democratic Party (United States), including the addition of "secularism" and "state socialism" in a paragraph about what the party supports. He does not leave an edit summary. [59]
- 16:30, Jan 16, 2005: Old Right adds a partially POV paragraph to Democratic Party (United States). He does not leave an edit summary. [60]
- 00:56, Jan 8, 2005: Old Right makes various POV edits to Democratic Party (United States). He does not leave an edit summary. [61]
[edit] Republican Party (United States)
- 16:29, Apr 12, 2005: Old Right makes various POV edits to Republican Party (United States). [62]
- 19:40, Jan 8, 2005: Old Right removes "traditional social values" and replaces it with "individual freedom." [63]
- 11:27, Jan 7, 2005: OldOld Right makes a huge, blatantly POV overhaul. [64]
[edit] Adding "left-wing" to dozens of articles
Between 00:23, Apr 5, 2005, and 01:06, Apr 5, 2005, Old Right systemically edited the introduction sections of dozens of articles, mostly humorists and entertainers, and added "left-wing" somewhere in the first sentence. In nearly all of the cases the person's political affiliation was disputed (e.g., they are not generally considered to be leftists) and/or was totally irrelevant in the article or lead section. On Susan Sarandon, Old Right also removed "is an Academy Award-winning American actress" and replaced it with "is a left-wing American actress." On Spike Lee, Old right also removed "distinguished documentarian." On none of the articles did Old Right leave an edit summary. the entire range of edits can be seen here and the talk oage discussion can be seen here.
[edit] Terri Schiavo
- 01:02, Mar 31, 2005: Old Right removes a paragraph from Terri Schiavo and adds an irrelevant and possibly false information about a judge involved in the case. No source is cited and no edit summary is given. [65]
- 16:19, Mar 21, 2005: Old Right adds an image (later deleted) that was a copyright violation. [66]
[edit] Jörg Haider
- 21:29, Mar 29, 2005: Old Right adds {{POV}} to Jörg Haider but does not register his objections on talk or leave an edit summary. [67]
[edit] Howard Dean
- 17:57, Feb 27, 2005: Old Right edits Howard Dean, adding a two-section paragraph about an Annapolis alderman who, according to an anonymous source, switched parties because of Dean. The first paragraph was dubious and the second half was entirely POV:
- The exodus of George Kelley is just one in a long line of politicians who have left the Democratic Party over the past decade. During the Clinton presidency something like 450 Democrat elected officials changed their party affiliation to Republican, most notably Richard Shelby. [68]
[edit] Clarance Thomas
- 23:58, Feb 12, 2005: Old Right adds "alleged" to "He is considered to be part of the 'conservative wing' of the court," though Thomas is universally considered to be part of the court's conservative wing. [69]
[edit] Mel Gibson
- 12:05, Jan 27, 2005: Old Right removes a sentence (" Because Gibson is a practicing Catholic, he has often been critized for his Catholic beliefs such as believing that abortion and homosexuality are wrong and immoral") from Mel Gibson and does not leave an edit summary. [70]
[edit] Social Security (United States)
- 10:09, Jan 26, 2005: Old Right adds a huge, two-section, eight-paragraph POV addition. He does not leave an edit summary and is soon reverted. [71]
[edit] John Breaux
- 19:41, Jan 8, 2005: Old Right reverts, without leaving an edit summary. He is soon reverted.[72]
- 04:37, Jan 7, 2005: Old Right makes a POV edit to John Breaux, without leaving an edit summary. He is soon reverted. [73]
[edit] John O'Neill (Vietnam veteran)
- 22:36, Jan 2, 2005: Old Right edits John O'Neill (Vietnam veteran), adding "war hero." He leaves no edit summary and is soon reverted. [74]
[edit] Jimmy Carter
- 12:02, Sep 15, 2004: Old Right reverts, using the edit summary "Not POV or vandalism, simply the truth!" He is soon reverted. [75]
- 00:18, Sep 13, 2004: Old Right edits the lead section of Jimmy Carter, adding "he is considered to have been one of the worst American presidents by most Presidential historians and even many on the left consider his presidency to be an overall failure," citing an editorial in the Wall Street Journal. He does not leave an edit summary and is soon reverted. [76]
[edit] Dennis Miller
- 00:22, Sep 10, 2004: Old Right adds "moderately" to "conservative beliefs," though Miller is usually regarded as staunchly conservative. [77]
[edit] John McEnroe
- 04:24, Sep 9, 2004: Old Right adds the irrelevant "a political liberal, McEnroe has recently been very vocal about his political leanings" but does not cite examples or a source, nor does he leave an edit sumamry. [78]
[edit] Janeane Garofalo
- 00:38, Sep 8, 2004: Old Right makes assorted POV edits to Janeane Garofalo.
[edit] Category:Democrats
- Old Right, over the period from 00:51 to 02:10, Jun 2, 2005, created Category:Democrats and populated it with a wide variety of irrelevant articles. In many cases, they were entertainers or humorists whoa re not formally affiliated with the Democratic Party. In many other cases, the person in question has been known to be liberal/leftist/progressive (such as Michael Moore) but is not a Democrat and in fact has been an independent or Green. [80]
[edit] Edit summaries/talk page discussion
Old Right almost never uses edit summaries, as a cursory look at his contributions reveals ("Old Right" account, "OldRight" account"). When he does use edit summaries, more often than not they are misleading ("rv POV"; "rv vandalism"). Of his 592 edits under "Old Right" and 36 under "OldRight," none of them have been made in the Wikipedia talk space.
[edit] Votes for deletion
Old Right has also abused the deletion process through bad-faith VfD votes:
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/John Kerry flip-flops
- One of 3 votes to keep, out of 32
- "KEEP! It is factual and most definately needed. -- Old Right 16:49, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)"
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of left-wing organizations in the USA
- One of 3 votes to keep, out of 32
- "KEEP, personally I don't see why it should be deleted. These organizations are left-wing. -- Old Right 16:52, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)"
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/House of Bush, House of Saud
- "Delete, propagandist junk. -- Old Right 23:40, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)"
[edit] Evidence presented by AyeRoxor
[edit] Nuclear Football
- April 28, 2005 20:34: Removed sourced, accurate, information that was placed to increase article neutrality, then adds unprofessional inflammatory phrase to description of Clinton event.
- May 24, 2005 18:00: Revert war due to reverting of vandalism referenced above.
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