Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Lapsed Pacifist

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Case Opened on 17:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Case Closed on 19:17, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Involved parties

Lapsed_Pacifist (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log)
Jtdirl (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves • rights)

Lapsed Pacifist has for one year engaged in edit warring, POV editing and provocative behaviour despite appeals to stop, bans and an RfC.

confirmation that LP has been notified.

Given that the user has ignored all appeals and all requests to follow NPOV and even begun editwarring as soon as blocks expired over and over again, there are no grounds whatsoever that any other mechanism but an enforceable ruling of the Arbcom will stop the saga.

[edit] Requests for comment

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Lapsed Pacifist

[edit] Statement by jtdirl

LP regularly adds in POV additions, subtle word changes and POV language pushing political agendas to Irish articles. This has been going on for months. He has ignored appeals to stop, demands from multiple users to stop, bans for breaching 3RR. In Northern Ireland, elements of both communities use POV terminology both to push their own political agenda and to send a "fuck you" message to the other. LP is one of the worst offenders on WP. For example, because elements of both communities use their own POV language to describe the place (Unionists use 'Ulster', Republicans 'The Six Counties' etc) WP follows a strict policy of only using the legal name, Northern Ireland and no POV alternative. LP has spent months deleting references to Northern Ireland and slotting in his own political agenda-pushing replacements, for example [1], [2] [3], [4], [5], He deliberately changes Loyalist (fringe working class Unionists associated with violence) to Unionist (the mainstream community rarely linked to violence) to provoke and offend Unionist Wikipedians [6], adds in unsourced wild claims [7], adds in propaganda for one party into articles [8] or heavy POV editorialising [9], miscategorises other people's edits as 'blanking' in edit summaries. Other examples of his edits include [10], [11], [12] [13], [14]. (Even while I was writing this, he produced this POV edit.[15]) Various articles have become bogged down in edit wars caused by his POVing.[16], [17], [18]

An example of some of his edit warring:

(cur) (last) 22:39, 27 July 2005 Djegan m (revert vandalism)
(cur) (last) 22:32, 27 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv)
(cur) (last) 10:00, 27 July 2005 Djegan m (revert)
(cur) (last) 06:59, 27 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv; please write accurate edit summaries)
(cur) (last) 22:30, 26 July 2005 Djegan m (revert sectanism and vandalism of LP)
(cur) (last) 22:28, 26 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv NPOV)
(cur) (last) 10:15, 26 July 2005 Demiurge m (rv POV term "six counties")
(cur) (last) 08:22, 26 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv NPOV)
(cur) (last) 09:53, 25 July 2005 Demiurge m (rv POV term "six counties")
(cur) (last) 06:59, 25 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv needlessly simplistic edit)
(cur) (last) 21:48, 24 July 2005 JW1805 m (rvt (corrected needlessly complex sentence structure))
(cur) (last) 21:39, 24 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv needlessly simplistic edit)
(cur) (last) 15:37, 24 July 2005 JW1805 m (corrected needlessly complex sentence structure)
(cur) (last) 15:34, 24 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv; Restore context)
(cur) (last) 04:57, 24 July 2005 JW1805 m (simplify sentence)
(cur) (last) 04:08, 24 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv NPOV)
(cur) (last) 00:00, 23 July 2005 Demiurge m (rv POV)
(cur) (last) 23:48, 22 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (Revert edits by Djegan to last version by JavaJive)
(cur) (last) 20:27, 22 July 2005 Djegan (revert sectanism and vandalism)
(cur) (last) 20:20, 22 July 2005 JavaJive m (wikify date)
(cur) (last) 19:06, 22 July 2005 Demiurge m (rv POV)
(cur) (last) 17:37, 22 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv)
(cur) (last) 10:14, 22 July 2005 Demiurge m (rv POV)
(cur) (last) 05:18, 22 July 2005 Lapsed Pacifist (rv)

While many of LP's edits are fine, in among the good ones he buries blatant POVing, provocative terminology and political agenda-pushing. Given that he has engaged in POV edit warring for one year, has refused to pay heed to complaints, refused to tone down his political agenda-pushing, has come back after blocks and picked up where he left off, there are no grounds for believing that any other form of mediation will stop him. He needs an enforceable ruling of the arbcom. Otherwise a host of Irish users will continue to have to spend much of their time constantly NPOVing his contributions and fighting edit wars with him. That is unfair on them and damaging to WP.

(Apologies for the length of above. It is a complex issue running a full year.)

[edit] Statement by party 2

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[edit] Evidence & View by Djegan

Lapsed Pacifist has continously disrupted wikipedia. In fairness he does give a very few good edits but this is seriously eclippsed by his pov warring on wikipedia. Additionally several good editors have being subjected to his warring across mainly British and Irish related articles, so it is not isolated by any means. What he does is damaging to a professional wikipedia and serious editors.

Some specific examples I would like to cite include[19] whereby he merged the information of two articles into one whilst keeping the source of both (List of universities in the Republic of Ireland and List of universities in Northern Ireland). Yet another example is[20] whereby he copied the source (Abbeys and priories in the Republic of Ireland and Abbeys and priories in Northern Ireland). In these two cases he did not consult anyone for their opinion, simply created unified copies of two exisiting articles. I contend that this is part of his general style to be biased and pov biased; a false United Ireland.

Two recent controversies he is associated in (with me) is that he moved two pages [21] and [22] even though the consensus was against this on the respective talk pages. These two articles are currently subject to a WP:RM vote.

This is only a small example of the warring that he does. Djegan 19:04, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Statement and evidence by Demiurge

This user holds Irish republican views, and is of the opinion that Northern Ireland is not a legitimate political entity. Which is a perfectly legitimate opinion to hold, of course; the problem arises when he tries to push this POV on Wikipedia by inserting unofficial POV names ("north-eastern Ireland", "the six counties", "the north-east") instead of "Northern Ireland" and even by using "Ireland" or "Ulster" where "Northern Ireland" would be more specific and appropriate[23][24].

Problematic behaviour includes:

provocative edit summaries: "rv, for the hell of it" "Inserting outrageous POV". Very difficult to WP:AGF after seeing these.
User_talk:Demiurge#Unionist_paramilitaries_(1912 - ) — discussion on my talk page where he admits that he is changing "loyalist paramilitaries" to "unionist paramilitaries" to push his POV that loyalist paramilitary groups and the police/army in Northern Ireland are equivalent.
[25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] — revert warring over an unsourced "fact" concerning the Democratic Unionist Party's membership, and refusing to provide evidence when challenged on the talk page.
[31]. Another revert war, this time over LP saying as fact that the Stormontgate spy ring was the work of MI5. As anyone with Lapsed Pacifist's knowledge of Northern Ireland affairs would surely know, responsibility for this affair is still hotly debated, with the British government flatly denying that MI5 were behind it.
[32] — edit-warring over a period of six months in an attempt to substitute his preferred POV term "six counties" for "Northern Ireland".
[33] — another six-month edit war, this time trying to remove any reference to Northern Ireland entirely.

After extensive and fruitless attempts to resolve these issues with this user (relevant talk pages: Talk:Articles 2 and 3 of the Constitution of Ireland, User talk:Demiurge#Unionist paramilitaries (1912 - ), Talk:Demographics and politics of Northern Ireland), I've come to the conclusion that this user has made no serious attempt to follow WP:NPOV, instead viewing talk-page discussion as a delaying tactic.

Demiurge 19:35, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Preliminary decisions

[edit] Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (4/0/1/0)

Accept. ➥the Epopt 21:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Accept. Dmcdevit·t 07:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Accept. Neutrality^talk 06:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Accept. Charles Matthews 09:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Recuse. - SimonP 04:20, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Temporary injunction (none)

[edit] Final decision

[edit] Principles

[edit] Disruptive editing

1) A user who disrupts Wikipedia articles by edit warring regarding use of point of view language may be banned from the affected articles, in extreme cases from the site.