Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Baku Ibne, et al./Evidence
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[edit] Evidence presented by Tabib
Considering that ArbCom has largely exposed the other violator acting behind a whole army of suckpuppets, I chose to focus on User:Rovoam's conduct. This may seem a bit long and too detailed evidence. But I still chose to make it as detailed as possible, at least initially, so that to cover all aspects of Rovoam's disruptive actions, provocations, dishonest behaviour and personal attacks.
I want to stress once again that my actions, i.e. my reverts of User:Rovoam should in no way be equalled to reverts of User:Rovoam of me and other users. If necessary I can substantiate this point in detail.
Neutral editors, please, feel free to make any clarifications, additions and/or wikiformatting to this list of evidences. If necessary for the sake of clarity and briefness, I even would not mind making this list shorter. --Tabib 13:13, Mar 16, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] 08 Feb
- 18:22
- Nagorno-Karabakh: First appearance of anon User:64.136.2.254. Introduces biased edit and deletes all external links. ([2])
- 18:45-19:19
- Nagorno-Karabakh: Anon User:64.136.2.254 makes a series of incessant edits (6 overall) during which he removes certain paragraphs from page (esp. mentioning Artsakh and Caucasus Albania), adds some POV and brings back the external links he deleted in his previous edit at 18:22.
- Overall there were 7 consecutive edits by this anon in Nagorno-Karabakh page on Feb 8. Here’s the diff between page versions after his initial editions ([3])
- 20:16
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Aramgutang reverts POV changes by anon User:64.136.2.254 ([4])
[edit] 09 Feb
- 09:08
- Nagorno-Karabakh: First POV edit by User:Rovoam with edit summary “Removing terms "separatista". Restered objective facts. Remove azeri propaganda.” ([5]). Edits are virtually identical to earlier edits by anon User:64.136.2.254 ([6])
- 15:53
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib interferes and reverts all changes by User:Rovoam and anon User:64.136.2.254, accuses Rovoam in vandalism ([7])
[edit] 10 Feb
- 09:53
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Cantus first minor edit in the page. ([8])
- 11:17
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam introduces again his POV edit identical to the one dated 09 Feb 09:08 with summary “Removing incorrect version.” ([9]).
- 11:24
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam posts his first message to talkpage arguing that “The term “separatists” is not neutral…and Nagorno-Karabakh…was part of the Soviet Azerbaijan, which does not exist now.” ([10])
- 11:41-12:58
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Cantus makes a long series of consecutive edits with edit summary “reverting previous POV by Rovoam”. User’s edit behavior demonstrates that user is not well-informed on the subject and is confused (during this time span Cantus made 20 edits overall).
[edit] 13 Feb
- 03:48
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam introduces a POV edit (minor, at first sight) removing correct sentence that N-K is part of Azerbaijan and instead, introducing a biased sentence mentioning Stalin. ([11]).
- 03:53
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam introduces another POV changes and puts a deceitful edit summary: “lang+” ([12])
- 03:58
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam introduces yet another POV changes under the pretext of “wikified” (another devious edit summary). ([13])
- 04:31
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Cantus “rv POV by Rovoam” ([14])
- 22:52
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam reverts User:Cantus and restores his POV version ([15])
- 23:12
- User talk:Cantus: User:Rovoam posts a message to Cantus objecting to his reverts, softly accusing him of violation of “the very basic principles of Wekipedia” and also softly threatening with arbitration. ([16])
[edit] 14 Feb
- 04:50
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Cantus reverts User:Rovoam and puts edit summary “rv POV (you've been reverted before)” ([17])
- 13:01
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam reverts User:Cantus and puts edit summary “Have you read my message? - Let's discuss?” ([18])
- 13:06
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam makes no change to the page, but edits the page simply to show in edit summary what message he meant in his previous edit summary and create a false impression that he is being treated unjustly. ([19])
- 13:43
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib intervenes and reverts User:Rovoam to last version by User:Cantus and warns that “continuous attempts by Rovoam may be considered vandalism”.
- 17:20
- User talk:Tabib: User:Rovoam invites User:Tabib to discussion
- 17:23
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam reverts User:Tabib and puts edit summary: “Please stop removing my comments without discussion! Stop vandalism!!!!!”
- 22:49
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam responds to initial request by User:Cantus to explain his changes by repeating his arguments and for the second time threatens with arbitration stating “If you disagree with the above statements, let's bring this matter to the Arbitrator and let him decide who is right and who is wrong here...” ([20])
[edit] 15 Feb
- 10:44
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib posts his first response to User:Rovoam in which he explains his preliminary objections to recent POV edits by User:Rovoam ([21])
- 10:48
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts User:Rovoam and puts notice in edit summary: “RV to initial version. Before making substantial changes to the page, POV questions should be solved in the discussion page.” ([22])
- 13:12
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam reinstates his POV version and puts misleading and confusing edit summary echoing previous edit summary by User:Tabib: “Please do not change this initial version, POV questions should be solved in the discussion page” ([23]). Later this edit summary caused confusion and disputes on which version should be considered “initial” ([24] and [25])
- 14:46
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts User:Rovoam to last version by User:Cantus
- 15:08
- User talk:Cantus: User:Tabib asks User:Cantus “to prevent Rovoam's biased edits, and explain him that he should first address his claims in the relevant talkpage and he may make substantial changes to the Wikipage only after substantially addressing the issue and getting views of the other parties involved.” ([26])
- 16:34
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam reverts to his POV version once again and puts an irrelevant, provocative and abusive edit summary: “Dear turks! Go back to Ankara. Please don't invade Europe!” ([27])
- 16:43
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam wages first personal attack against User:Tabib: “You have to stop your violent Turkish vandalism and listen what other people say about you. Otherwise, I will have no choice, but to restrict your access to this site forever.” ([28])
- 17:09
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Cantus reverts edits by User:Rovoam puts notice in edit summary: “rv. Keep using Talk” ([29])
- 15:30
- User talk: Davenbelle: User:Tabib asks for third party opinion from User:Davenbelle on Nagorno-Karabakh (randomly chosen from list of neutral users who edited this page previously.) ([30])
- 19:05
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle posts his first message acknowledging that he had no prior contact with neither User:Tabib nor User:Rovoam nor User:Cantus
- 21:04
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam acting under anon User: 64.136.2.254 (mentioned in the very beginning) redirects the page to Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh created by him as alternative to the existing entry. ([31])
- 21:06
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle reverts redirect by anon User:64.136.2.254 ([32])
- 21:07
- Nagorno-Karabakh: Anon User:64.136.2.254 (Rovoam) re-reverts the page again
- 21:09
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle undoes redirect for second time
- 21:11
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:64.136.2.254 (Rovoam) redirects the page for third time, apparently in haste, as he makes typo in redirect page spelling (“Rebublic”) soon after corrected by unaffiliated User:Alba unwary of the ongoing dispute. ([33])
- 21:14
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle undoes redirect by User:64.136.2.254 for third time ([34])
- 21:15
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:64.136.2.254 (Rovoam) now abandons redirect tactics and introduces his previous POV changes. ([35]). These changes are identical to the one introduced by User:Rovoam in previous edits (e.g. see ([36])
- 21:23
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle posts brief message suggesting that “there should not be warfare. There should be talk”. ([37])
- 21:39
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib posts another message explaining his preliminary views on the recent edits by User:Rovoam ([38])
- 21:54
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts edits by User:64.136.2.254 to last version by User:Davenbelle urges the person acting behind this IP to behave openly. ([39])
- 23:33
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:64.136.2.254 reverts again ([40])
[edit] 16 Feb
- 00:16
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle suggests resorting to formal mediation and writes that “aggressive tactics like messing with redirects and adjusting every page that links here is not going to make the anons (yes, possibly Rovoam) many friends” ([41]-last post)
- 05:53
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts User:64.136.2.254, puts edit summary “RV vandalism. If this is you Rovoam, behave openly and in a civilized manner. Erasing whole paragraphs and remove NPOV label is not correct. Refer to third party opinion by Davenbelle” (suggesting that all contentious issues should be dealt with in talkpage first) ([42])
- 06:11
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib proposes resorting to mediation if User:Rovoam agrees. ([43])
- 06:51
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam posts a message titled “Let’s discuss!” in which he presents his viewpoints regarding page content and history. ([44])
- 07:06
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam posts another message supporting earlier personal attacks against User:Tabib by anon User:84.154.120.102 and provoking him to express his opinion about “Armenian genocide”, irrelevant to the subject matter of the dispute. Also accuses User:Cantus and User:Tabib to be sock puppets of each other. ([45])
- 10:18
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib posts a message expressing his acceptance Rovoam’s suggestion to continue discussion but urging User:Rovoam not to try to discredit himself and User:Cantus. ([46]-second post)
- 19:46
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam acting openly reverts page again and puts deceptive edit summary “Tabib. Please stop! We are not done yet with our nagotiation!” ([47]). Once again edit is identical to that of anon User:64.136.2.254 ([48])
[edit] 17 Feb
- 02:23
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle imposes certain guidelines (on top) explicitly supported by User:Tabib ([49]), User:Rovoam does not object and displays implicit acceptance
[edit] 18 Feb
- 08:44
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle posts a message explaining which parts of the text he removed and why and giving comparisons between versions supported by User:Rovoam’s and User:Tabib ([50])
- 08:45
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle removes “contentious stuff pending agreements on talk. The idea is this is a baseline” ([51])
- 19:19
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib posts a message in which objects to User:Davenbelle’s removing of certain “contentious stuff”, arguing that these removals made the current (then) version false and misleading and suggesting a new page version ([52])
- 21:06-22:14
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam uploads and posts numerous historical maps of Armenia and the region
- 22:14
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib comments on the maps reasoning that they actually disprove User:Rovoam’s allegations.
[edit] 19 Feb
- 03:11
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle introduces page version proposed by User:Tabib to get this version into article history for comparison and then reverts back to placeholders version ([53])
- 05:17-07:57
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: With aim of drawing public sympathies User:Rovoam posts irrelevant and info on a Karabakh conflict episode titled “This FYI only” ([54]).
[edit] 20 Feb
- 04:16
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib objects to User:Rovoam’s irrelevant posting and reacts by posting more information on various episodes of the conflict. ([55])
[edit] 21 Feb
- 06:53
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle removes ‘rules’ he introduced earlier
- 08:35
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Davenbelle puts label TotallyDisputed on the page. This becomes his last edit on the page and its talkpage (after providing some links to PD maps of N-K)
[edit] 23 Feb
- 09:11
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib expresses his regret that User:Davenbelle apparently withdrew from the discussions as an informal third party mediator and also suggests to proceed paragraph-by-paragraph ([56])
- 02:40
- User:Cantus: Puts a message on his own userpage informing that he is leaving Wikipedia because “is not a reliable source of information and is a big waste of time for everybody involved.” ([57])
- Note: however, currently User:Cantus is rather active (see, contrib. log)
[edit] 24 Feb
- 01:05
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Aramgutang supports proposal by User:Tabib to proceed further discussion paragraph-by-paragraph. ([58])
- 10:17
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: As part of a protracted historical disputes User:Rovoam accuses User:Tabib in misinterpreting the facts by referring to some chapters a a historical source and omitting another chapter
- 12:24
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib responds to accusations by User:Rovoam by providing the text of the “omitted” chapter. ([59])
[edit] 25 Feb
- 13:49
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib summarizes his points and suggests either coming into terms or resorting to mediation. ([60])
- 17:43
- Nagorno-Karabakh: Anon User: 217.91.104.132 introduces minor edit adding a Russian language Armenian web-site ([61])
- 23:40
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam introduces his previous POV edits again putting edit summary “Are we over with our talk? Going back to the editing war?” ([62]).
- As seen below, this provokes a second revert war between him and User:Tabib
- 23:46
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam puts “do not edit” notice to the page he last edited ([63])
[edit] 27 Feb
- 13:55
- Wikipedia:Requests for mediation: User:Tabib requests formal mediation to solve his differences with User:Rovoam over Nagorno-Karabakh page content ([64])
- 14:09
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib puts a brief overview of the discussion, as he sees it, and informs that he had no other choice but to request formal mediation. ([65])
- 14:14
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts User:Rovoam’s POV edits back to last version by User:Cantus but retains “do not edit” notice urging not to edit the page until issue is solved in discussion. ([66])
- This edit in Nagorno-Karabakh page itself becomes the first one by User:Tabib since his last edit at 05:53, Feb 16, since the imposition of User:Davenblle’s short-lived “voluntary rules”, which User:Tabib explicitly supported. User:Rovoam also refrained from editing page for a short period from Feb 20, 11:59 to Feb 25, 23:40
[edit] 28 Feb
- 06:35
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam reverts back to his edits and puts edit summary “The war continues? No more discussions?” ([67])
- 07:19
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib warns User:Rovoam against escalating the revert war and introducing unilateral changes. Also warns if such actions continued, he will introduce suggested version without User:Rovoam’s consent. ([68])
- 07:22
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts POV changes by User:Rovoam again
- User:Tabib reverts to version last saved by User:Cantus at 03:40 Feb 24 (retaining for a time “do not edit label” introduced by User:Rovoam). This is done not because of support of thatparticular version, but because this (stub) version contains post-dispute edits of neither User:Tabib nor User:Rovoam.
- 08:04
- Nagorno-Karabakh: Another POV revert by User:Rovoam accompanied by deceptive and confusing edit summary “RV unilateral changes by Tabib again. No changes, please! Untill the conflict is resolved!” echoing the preceding edit summary by User:Tabib ([69])
- Same pattern of edit summary behavior, aimed at confusing third party editors who would review the case in the future, was recorded before at 13:12, Feb 15 (see above)
- 09:52
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts POV edits by User:Rovoam, puts edit summary “Stop this fraudulent actions! You yourself introduce unilateral change and then accuse me?! I am not satisfied with this version either, but I refrain from adding my edits, I simply revert to Cantus!” ([70])
- 17:45
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam reinstates his POV edits and repeats his previous deceptive edit summary ([71])
- 22:52
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Cantus reverts POV edits by User:Rovoam, puts edit summary “rv to Tabib. Stop your actions Rovoam” ([72])
- 23:14
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam reverts User:Cantus, puts edit summary “Cantus, please explain why you vandalize the page. Go to discussion page and express yourself.” ([73])
- 23:19
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Rovoam introduces his POV version by removing redirect to Nagorno-Karabakh page and thus, creating an alternative entry for already existing one ([74])
- 23:38
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Joy reverts edits by User:Rovoam and restores original redirect page ([75])
- 23:44
- Caucasus Albania: User:Rovoam vandalized the page removing two paragraphs mentioning Artsakh (area of present-day N-K) ([76])
- 23:47
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Joy posted a message informing about “improper move”s by User:Rovoam who changed references to Nagorno-Karabakh to include word “Republic”. ([77])
- 23:52
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Rovoam reverts again labeling his edits as “minor” ([78])
[edit] 01 Mar
- 05:30
- Caucasus Albania: User:Tabib reverts vandalism, puts edit summary “RV biased edit by Rovoam, who removed two paragraphs from the original text, edited by earlier editors (not me!). Rovoam dont spread the conflict over content of Nagorno-Karabakh to other pages!” ([79])
- 05:57
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Tabib reverts edits by User:Rovoam to last version by User:Joy, puts edit summary “RV Rovoam to Joy. Rovoam stop pushing your bias in Wikipedia! You vandalized Caucasus Albania page in the same way. Stop spreading the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh content to other pages!” ([80])
- 06:23
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib warns User:Rovoam that “continuous attempts to complicate the discussion even further constitutes a grave violation of Wikipedia rules and norms of conduct.” ([81])
- 06:33
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: Following User:Joy’s message, User:Tabib warns User:Rovoam on his recent actions in Caucasus Albania and Nagorno-Karabakh Republic ([82])
- 06:37
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts User:Rovoam, puts edit summary “Rovoam you are getting increasingly aggressive. Stop unilateral changes! Stop vandalizing other pages, namely Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (redirect to Nagorno-Karabakh) and Caucasus Albania.” ([83])
- 09:24
- Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents: User: Chris 73 reports 3RR violation by User:Rovoam ([84])
- 11:02
- Nagorno-Karabakh: Anon User: 24.24.146.206 reverts to User:Rovoam, puts edit summary “Tabib! Look at yourself!” ([85])
- 11:15
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib introduces the version he supports without User:Rovoam’s consent, puts edit summary “Rovoam that's ENOUGH! I introduce the suggested version without your concent. I warn you DO NOT to violate 3RR. And be a man and behave openly. Before you already were exposed when using anon IPs” ([86])
- This edit was the first one since 12:22, Jan 26 (single case when User:Tabib unintentionally used his IP), which contained new information since the start of the dispute with User:Rovoam from 15:53, Feb 9. Until this point in discussion User:Tabib refrained from adding his unilateral edits to page and only reverted POV editions by User:Rovoam and anons.
- 11:25
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam suddently agrees that “that Artsakh was for some time part of the Caucasian Albania”
- Previously User:Rovoam claimed that “Karabakh was never part of Albania” ([87]) and even now he claims “What Albanians have in Artsakh? - There are no traces of their presence!” ([88])
- 11:36
- Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents: User:Geni blocks User:Rovoam for 24 hours ([89])
- 11:46
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User: 64.136.27.228 (blocked Rovoam) reverts edits by User:Tabib to his version
- 12:02
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts edits by anon User: 64.136.27.228 ([90])
- 12:07
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User: 64.136.27.228 (blocked Rovoam) reverts again, puts edit summary “rv to Rovoam last edit/removing Tabib's revert” ([91])
- 13:08
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib addresses recent actions by Rovoam acting under anon IPs, and warns User:Rovoam to refrain from derailing the discussion by bringing up new irrelevant topics (i.e. Urartu)
- 13:10
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Chris 73 reverts “edits by 64.136.27.228 to last version by Tabib” ([92])
- 13:11
- Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents: User:Chris 73 reports that User:Rovoam user IP addresses for block evasion ([93])
- 14:57
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:LIGerasimova wages personal attack against User:Tabib.
- Start of a wave of personal attacks by numeroous sock puppets and anons
- 20:52
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:66.53.55.53 (Rovoam) wages personal attacks against “Turks” with a message titled “Wikipedia to become Turkipedia soon” ([94])
- 23:10
- Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents: User:66.53.212.49 (blocked Rovoam) reports spurious report against User:Tabib ([95])
- 12:04
- User talk:Geni: User:64.136.27.228 (blocked Rovoam) posts a spurious message accusing User:Tabib and User:Cantus in violation of 3 RR and calls him to ban these users. Rovoam signs message as “Ray Walker” ([96])
- 13:39
- User talk:Geni: User:Tabib accidentally sees the spurious message and asks User:Geni to keep this message, which would be used “as an important factual evidence in future arbitration” ([97])
[edit] 02 Mar
- 00:22
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User: 66.53.218.147 (Rovoam) wages another personal attack against User:Tabib with a message titled “Tabib (and other Turki/Azeri people) are already taking all room in Wikipedia, making it Turkipedia. He is so proud of his Turkish background that all other users are prohibeted from this resource. Does this site exist only for Turkic people? If yes I will leave forever! Because I hate all Turkish vandals!!! 00:22, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)” ([98])
- 00:24
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:66.53.218.147 (blocked Rovoam) reverts edits by User:Chris 73
- 00:27
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rdsmith4 “Reverted edits by 66.53.218.147 to last version by Chris 73” ([99])
- 01:16
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:66.53.219.9 (blocked Rovoam) reverts and puts edit summary “I like this war. Let's see if by blocking each IP address you improve Wiki Statistics. I have a big list of public Proxy servers available. It's going to be fun! I may do this on other articles too!” ([100])
- 01:18
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:66.53.219.9 (blocked Rovoam) vandalizes the page ([101])
- 01:20
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:John Fader reverts vandalism ([102])
- 07:21
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib describes the farce and personal attacks against him by some of the violators ([103])
- 19:53
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:64.136.2.254 (Rovoam) posts yet another abusive message insulting ethnic background of certain editors (“WikipediA is the free Turkish Encyclopedia, also known as Turkipedia…” ([104])
- Initially User:Rhobite removes this post ([105]), but Rovoam quickly restores it putting a comment “Non-Turkic people are not allowed even to use a talk page. Oh! I want to be Turk!” ([106])
[edit] 03 Mar
- 05:21, 05:28, 09:18
- Caucasus Albania: User:Rovoam makes some controversial but generally useful historical editions. Does not touch paragraph mentioning Artsakh ([107])
[edit] 05 Mar
- 06:59
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Rovoam attempts for third time to remove redirect, introduces his POV version and puts deceptive edit summary “wikify” ([108])
- 10:58
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Tabib reverts User:Rovoam, puts edit summary “RV Rovoam once again. He once again provokes conflict by trying to create an alternative page to already existing Nagorno-Karabakh. This is more than a simple vandalism!” ([109])
[edit] 07 Mar
- 06:22
- Caucasus Albania: User:Rovoam vandalizes Caucasus Albania page removing paragraph mentioning Artsakh, puts provocative and confusing edit summary “Removing statement about Artsakh - because it was not only part of Albania, but also Urartu. Tell the complete story - or tell nothing” ([110])
- 06:11
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Rovoam reverts again and puts a deceptive and also abusive (calling me “loser”) edit summary “Vandalizm by Tabib has been removed. Correct page has been restored. Tabib you are looser!” ([111])
[edit] 08 Mar
- 07:33
- Caucasus Albania: User:Tabib reverts edit by User:Rovoam, puts summary “RV vandalism by Rovoam (his case under investigation by ArbCom). If he can prove his baseless allegations about Urartu let him adress this issue in talkpage and not delete already proved facts” ([112])
- Previous contentious, but still useful edits by User:Rovoam dated Mar 03 were not reverted.
- 07:36
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Tabib reverts User:Rovoam, restores redirect page, warns not to spread the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh to other pages. ([113])
- 16:27
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Fadix introduces an unwarranted external .pdf link to the page
- 22:05, 22:10, 22:12, 22:19
- Nagorno-Karabakh: Vandalisms by anon User:62.252.192.12 and User: 81.136.53.85
- 22:23
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Mel Etitis reverts to last version by User:Fadix ([(http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nagorno-Karabakh&diff=10959478&oldid=10936353])
[edit] 09 Mar
- 15:19
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts to version last saved by User:Mel Etitis at 12:47, March 5, thus effectively removing unwarranted external link by introduced earlier by User:Fadix
[edit] 10 Mar
- 11:54
- Caucasus Albania: User:Rovoam vandalizes the page again, puts provocative, irrelevant and rude edit summary (or rather, a personal message) “Thank you, Mr.TABIB HUSEYNOV. I will meet you face to face in Baku very soon, and we will discuss with you all your problems.” ([114])
[edit] 11 Mar
- 00:52
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Rovoam removes redirect for fifth time and once again introduces his preferred version ([115])
[edit] 12 Mar
- 19:16
- Caucasus Albania: User:Tabib restores paragraph mentioning Artsakh, removed by User:Rovoam
- 19:18
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Tabib reverts User:Rovoam, restores original redirect page ([116])
- 19:39
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Tony Sidwaway puts protection on the redirect page.
[edit] 13 Mar
- 09:59
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam reverts changes by User:Tabib, puts provocative edit summary “Removed changes by Turk Tabib” ([117])
- 10:09
- Caucasus Albania: Another vandalism by User:Rovoam, combined with yet another rude and provocative edit summary “Rempved changes by turkish guy Tabib Huseynov” ([118])
[edit] 14 Mar
- 06:20
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts changes by User:Rovoam, calls for page protection ([119])
- 10:54
- Caucasus Albania: User:Tabib reverts vandalism by User:Rovoam ([120])
- 22:12
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam implicitly vandalizes the page under pretext of “Providing more historucal details with reference to the sources”. ([121])
- Rovoam removes four original paragraphs from the page content with real history narration, and puts largely irrelevant quotations from historians of antiquity, mixed with POV and addressed in talkpage ([122]; ([123]; [124]; [125] also, [126]; [127]; and [128])
[edit] 15 Mar
- 06:19
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts POV changes by User:Rovoam, calls him to stop new revert and revert war ([129])
- 18:15
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam reverts back to his POV version, thus again removing four real content history paragraphs and puts deceptive edit summary “Tabib, why you removed the whole Karabakh history section? Do you disagree with Strabo or with Pliny the Elder? Or you just want Armenians to get out of their historical land?” ([130])
- 19:21
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib reverts POV edits by User:Rovoam, puts edit summary “RV. Rovoam starts again! Basically reposts earlier discussion message (Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh/Archive1#Artsakh_in_the_ancient_history), while deleting the real history content. PageProtect needed!” ([131])
- 19:28
- Talk:Caucasian Albania: User:Rovoam posts a deceptive message titles “NPOV vs Azeri POV” in which “explains” his POV edits, sets forth fraudulent remarks about Strabo, Plinius Secundos, Clavdius Ptolemeus. ([132])
- 22:54
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Rovoam: introduces his POV version again, leaves deceptive message in edit summary “Tabib! Please explain why cannot I refer to historical source information which contradicts with your wrong POV?” ([133])
[edit] Evidence presented by LIGerasimova
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[edit] Request to reject Tony Sidaway from the arbitration process
Tony Sidaway is known to cooperate very well with User:Tabib. When Tabib requested 3RR to be applied to my IP, this was implemented immediately. Since we (me and Tabib) were doing reverts almost at the same time, we both equally violated 3RR. However, my request to apply 3RR to Tabib was rejected by User:Tony Sidaway. Tony Sidaway seems to be too involved in supporting User:Tabib, spending a lot of time to present his case on a formal bases, not concerning about actual subjects of the disputes, i.e. false pro-Azery propaganda by Tabib (who has the agenda) vs. true and neutral historical research, provided by other users (without agenda)). Regards, Rovoam 20:51, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Evidence presented by Tony Sidaway
Trying to sort the muddle of evidence into something that can be analysed. there is a lot of this stuff so it will probably take all weekend at least.
If I were completely comprehensive and listed every single act vandalism, personal attack, or whatever, this might be indigestible, so I'm focusing on attention paid to User:Tabib by a page vandal and his putative socks; some collateral damage to admins and other users who intervened to fix vandalism.
A very cursory treatment of what has been done in articlespace, I just don't have enough spare time and it isn't my subject. I think the evidence is strongly suggestive of one person, LIGerasimova/Baku Ibne/Osmanoglou/Dubistdas LetzteArschloch/and whatever else, being behind the vandalism and extreme personal attacks, apparently based in Germany. User:64.136.2.254, based in California, seems to act as a proxy for User:Rovoam and may be Rovoam acting without logging in. I have provided a Whois section at the end of my evidence, giving publicly available ownership information for the relevant IP numbers, and a Dramatis Personae with a brief summary of each user involved.
[edit] 28 Jan
- 15:13
- Safavids: Start of content dispute over cleanup performed on this article by User:Tabib, to which longstanding contributor User:Pantherarosa objected [134]. Seems to have continued until 9 Feb.
[edit] 31 Jan
- 14:45
- Nagorno-Karabakh: Start of content dispute apparently between principally User:64.136.2.254 and User:Rovoam on one side, and User:Cantus and User:Tabib and others on the other. Warring continues sporadically between two competing versions for over a month.
[edit] 01 Feb
- 18:19
- Appearance of the shortlived editor User:Deli-Eshek. Posts personal attacks on Talk:Safavids and suggests that there is evidence that despite being culturally Turkish, Ismail i Safavi was of Kurdish ancestry.
- Not thought by me to be a sock--most likely just an editor with an interest in the field whose first experience of Wikipedia must have been very shocking--we probably lost him for good.
[edit] 07 Feb
- 22:14
- Appearance of the shortlived editor User:Ulvi I.. On Talk:Safavids, makes citations from sources such as The Cambridge History of Iran, Iran. Past and Present: From Monarchy to Islamic Republic by Donald N. Wilber, and IRAN, The Modern Nations in Historical Perspectives by Yahya Armajani to support his argument, and Tabib's, that the Safavids were Turks. Makes some contributions to the RFC against LIGerasimova. No other edits. contributions.
- Speculation: Could be a benign sock of Tabib? Possibly like Deli-Eshek was just driven away by the extreme attacks and stuff.
[edit] 08 Feb
- 13:30
- WP:RFAR: User:Tabib files an arbitration petition concerning reverts and picture deletions he says were performed on Safavids by Pantherarosa in a content dispute [135].
[edit] 09 Feb
- 05:49
- User:Deli-Eshek: Tabib posts a message on Deli-Eshek's user page asking him not to dispute with User:Ulver I. [136].
- 13:28
- Last edit on Safavids by User:Pantherarosa [137].
- 22:52
- Talk:Safavids User:84.154.123.111 makes a comment signing him or herself as "L. I. GERASIMOVA" [138].
- 23:24
- Talk:Safavids User:LIGerasimova, in his or her first edit, adds the signature [[User:LIGerasimova|LIGerasimova]] to that comment [139].
- This suggests that LIGerasimova could be a sock puppet of Osmanoglou. The IP range used by both apparently belongs to German ISP T-Mobile.
- 23:35
- ZF Friedrichshafen AG: Only known substantive article edit by User:LIGerasimova. Correctly alters "Hindenberg" to "airship Hindenburg" (edit summary "An Airship "Hindenberg" never existed!"). She did also edit Safavids on 10 Feb, but only to add a notice "_____________________________________________Caution: Site contains substantial "Turkish Bias" !"
[edit] 10 Feb
- 01:21, 01:22
- 09:27
- Talk:Safavids: User:LIGerasimova accuses Tabib of forming a Turkish Mafia, trying to "corrupt the editor Deli-Eshek (another "Turkish Cause" poster, above) and asked him to get in touch by email", and using another editor "Ulvi I.", as a sock puppet [142].
- 09:49
- WP:RFAR: User:LIGerasimova accuses User:Tabib of "apparently rigging postings...teaming up with "buddies" and apparently tries to enforce POV, in cahouts with them and possible sock-puppets" [143].
- 13:09
- [[User:LIGerasimova]: User:Pantherarosa places text on user page of LIGerasimova: "My Contributions Log" and a link to LIGerasimova's Wikipedia contributions [144].
Wild hypothesis: could this be evidence that Pantherarosa created LIGerasimova as a sock but forgot that he was logged in as Pantherarosa when he made this edit? See 15 Feb for response from User:LIGerasimova on User talk:Pantherarosa. On the other hand, sock puppetry seems out of character for Pantherarosa; his edits seem to be in good faith and reveal a good knowledge of Iran.Pantherarosa also added the contributions link to another user's page at the same time (John Kenney)--he seems to have intended to do people a favor [145].
[edit] 12 Feb
- 12:03
- Wikipedia:Requests for comment/LIGerasimova: Tabib launches RFC on LIGerasimova's conduct.
[edit] 14 Feb
[edit] 15 Feb
- 10:43 and later edits.
- 12:22
- User talk:Pantherarosa: User:LIGerasimova places edit on talk page of user Pantherarosa ticking him off for editing her user page to place a contributions link [148].
- 18:34
- Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh: User:64.136.2.254 creates article as a fork of Nagorno-Karabakh [149]. Appears to be Rovoam not logged in.
- 21:04
- Nagorno-Karabakh: User:64.136.2.254 redirects article to Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh. Brief revert war with User:Davenbelle follows [150].
[edit] 16 Feb
- 00:06
- 05:53
- Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh: Stabilized as a redirect to Nagorno-Karabak history.
- 12:14
- User:Tabib: User:84.154.54.194 edits user page of User:Tabib to replace the phrase "Member of Wikipedia" with "Silent member of Wikipedia". [152]. Only recorded edit from this IP number. contributions
- 22:34
- Template:Europe: User:84.154.102.141 removes Azerbaijan, a Council of Europe member since January, 2001, from list of European countries [153].
[edit] 17 Feb
- 22:15
- User:Tabib: User:84.154.77.120 edits user page of User:Tabib to add the phrase ", and excelling in Turkish dance." [154]. Only other recorded edit from this IP number is vandalization of Shah at 22:56 the same day [155]. contributions
[edit] 20 Feb
[edit] 24 Feb
- 00:30-00:34
- 14:13
- WP:VIP: User:Tabib files fairly comprehensive vandalism report listing User:84.154.104.16, User:84.154.91.20, User:84.154.102.141, User:84.154.63.43, User:84.154.114.240, User:84.154.109.26 and User:84.154.126.152 as vandals on Safavids [158].
- 14:45
- WP:VIP: Reply to vandalism report, by User:DJ Clayworth giving advice to let the vandal know he's been spotted [159]
- 23:04
- 23:07
- User:84.154.82.86: User edits own user page to bear the words "Turkic turkey hunter" [161] Only two edits from this IP address. contributions.
- These two edits are only contributions by this user. contributions
[edit] 25 Feb
- 10:24
- WP:VIP: User:Tabib responds on his thread about vandalism by User:84.154.104.16 with information and thanks to those who helped him [162].
- 12:09
- User:Tabib: User:84.154.50.175 edits user page of User:Tabib to change phrase "Wikibooks community" to "Wikibooks DancingTurkey community" [163].
- 13:44
- User:Tabib: User:84.154.50.175 edits user page of User:Tabib to read "Turkey of Wikipedia, Wikiquote, and Wikibooks poultry division" (one main edit, one tweak) [164], [165].
- 13:53
- WP:VIP: User:84.154.50.175 comments on vandalism report by User:Tabib, referring to Tabib and User:AllyUnion as "the WIKIPEDIA chief turkey and his ornithophile friend" [166].
[edit] 26 Feb
- 21:58
- User:Osmanoglou: Osmanoglou's first ever edit. Places text "ötünü sikeyim!", evidently Turkish, meaning unknown, on his own user page. [167]
- 22:00
- User:Tabib: Second ever edit by Osmanoglou. Edits user page of User:Tabib to replace the phrase "Member of Wikipedia" with "Ibne of Wikipedia". The word Ibne is apparently a common Turkish insult roughly equivalent to "faggot", meaning male homosexual [168]
- External reference for meaning of Ibne: [169]
- 22:08
- User talk:Tabib: Third ever edit by Osmanoglou. Replaces text "Be Bold!" in welcome message from User:Sam Spade with "Be Bold when servicing the Ibne Tabib, as he loves that." [170].
- 22:15
- User talk:John Fader: John Fader had reverted much of the vandalism to User:Tabib userpage. Osmanoglou edited his userpage here to say "I am the "girlfriend" of Tabib, another Ibne."[171]
- 23:48
- Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress: Osmanoglou added a spurious report falsely implicating User:Tabib in the Pelican shit/Bugger vandalism, forging his edit signature as [[User:LilliMarlene|LilliMarlene]] [172].
[edit] 27 Feb
- 00:41
- User talk:Osmanoglou: User:Rhobite cautions Osmanoglou for issuing spurious reports to WP:VIP, "vandalizing pages and attacking Tabib" [173].
- 06:04
- User talk:Osmanoglou: User:RickK writes "Don't vandalize other Users' User pages. Don't edit other User's comments on Talk pages."
- 13:55
- Wikipedia:Requests for mediation: Tabib requests mediation to resolve the dispute between himself and User:Rovoam over Nagorno-Karabakh [174].
- 15:05
- User:Tabib: User:84.154.88.59. "Ibne dancing Baku turkey" white-on-red highlighting [175].
- Only edit performed by this user. contributions
- 15:11
- User:Tabib: User:Osmanoglou. Tweak to wording. "Ibne dancer in Baku and turkey" [176].
- 15:23
- User:Osmanoglou: Osmanoglou applies the white-on-red highlighting to his user page text "ötünü sikeyim!" [177].
- 15:26
- Snowspinner blocked "User:Osmanoglou" with an expiry time of 24 hours (Personal attacks, disruption, etc.)
- 18:46
- User talk:Osmanoglou: User:84.154.122.26 edits talk page of Osmanoglou, fairly complex edit but the main import seems to be to append the phrases "(Tabib's girlfriend)" "(Tabib's boy friend)" and "(Tabib's lover)" to various signatures and add the words at the end of the talk page: "Vandals stop messing with this page!" [178].
- 18:48
- User talk:Osmanoglou: User:84.154.122.26 edits talk page of Osmanoglou, restoring text "ötünü sikeyim!" which seems to have been inadvertently removed in the previous edit [179]
- These were the only two edits of User:84.154.122.26 contributions
- 19:03
- Rhobite blocked "User:84.154.122.26" with an expiry time of 24 hours (osmanoglou - userpage vandalism and personal attacks)
- 19:04
- User talk:Osmanoglou: User:84.154.73.216? edits talk page of Osmanoglou, changing text "'ötünü sikeyim!" to "IBNELER, ötünü sikeyim!". Speculation: ibneler is possibly the Turkish plural of Ibne, "faggot" [180].
- Only edit by this user. contributions
- 19:06
- Rhobite blocked "User:84.154.73.216" with an expiry time of 24 hours (osmanoglou - userpage vandalism and personal attacks)
- 19:08
- Rhobite blocked "User:84.154.89.141" with an expiry time of 24 hours (osmanoglou - userpage vandalism and personal attacks)
- 19:13
- Rhobite blocked "User:84.154.0.0/16?" with an expiry time of 4 hours (No choice but to block this range. It's a t-online dialup in Germany, used by persistent vandal osmanoglou)
- 19:57
- User talk:Pantherarosa: Pantherarosa removes LIGerasimova's note about editing her user page [181]. This is the second last edit by this user. Last one is a revert of vandalism on Mohammad Reza Pahlavi (article about the last Shah of Iran) the following day.
[edit] 28 Feb
- 18:19
- User talk:Osmanoglou. Osmanoglou changes text "ötünü sikeyim!" (white-on-red) to "IBNELER ötünü sikeyim!"[182]
- 18:37
- User talk:Snowspinner: User:Photographer puts personal attack on Snowspinner's user talk page, forging signature as [[User:Rhobite|Rhobite]] [183].
- 18:40
- User talk:Rhobite: User:Photographer puts identical personal attack on Rhobite's user talk page, forging signature as [[User:RickK|RickK]] [184].
- 18:42
- User talk:RickK: User:Photographer puts personal attack on RickK's user talk page, forging signature as [[User:Rhobite|Rhobite]] [185].
- These three edits were User:Photographer's only edits contributions.
- 18:43
- Rhobite blocked "User:Photographer" with an expiry time of indefinite (userpage vandal)
- 18:49
- Rhobite blocked "User:Osmanoglou" with an expiry time of indefinite (Osmanoglou / photographer. Safavids vandal. repeated personal attacks and userpage vandalism)
- 18:49
- Rhobite blocked "User:84.154.0.0/16" with an expiry time of 2 hours (Osmanoglou / photographer. Safavids vandal. repeated personal attacks and userpage vandalism. Range block, short term)
- 23:19
- Nagorno-Karabakh Republic: User:Rovoam takes a page that was previously a redirect to Nagorno-Karabakh and puts an article there. A revert war ensues, continuing into mid-March history list of article.
- 23:23
- Wikipedia:AMA_Requests_for_Assistance: User:Jwrosenzweig requests an advocate on behalf of his mediation clients User:Tabib and User:Rovoam [186].
- 23:44
- Caucasian Albania: Start of a still-ongoing content edit war between User:Rovoam and User:Tabib [187].
[edit] 01 Mar
- 11:31
- Rovoam (talk · contributions) blocked for breaching WP:3RR. During the period of this block he appears to use 64.136.27.228 (talk · contributions) to get around the block.
- 23:13
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Baku Ibne posts troll message purporting to defend Tabib from attackers [188].
- 23:24
- WP:AN/3RR: User:Tony Sidaway removes spurious WP:3RR complaint against User:Tabib filed by User:66.53.212.49 at 23:10. Makes edit summary: "(timestamps not within 24 hours)" [189].
[edit] 02 Mar
- 07:21-07:41
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh: User:Tabib describes the scale of the sock puppet attacks on him [190] and subsequent edits.
- 09:46
- Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh User:Baku Ibne called User:Tabib "100 percent Ibne". [191]
- 09:48
- User talk:Tabib. Repetition of the same comment on user talk page [192].
- 11:05
- 16:20
- until 10:36 on 3 Mar. User:Twinkletoes makes some minor taunts about Turks, emotionality and dancing on Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh and User talk:Tabib. Few contributions, brief lifespan. Possible sock puppet. contributions.
- 18:55
- User:Tony Sidaway: User:64.136.2.254 vandalizes user page of Tony Sidaway. Message is "You have a problem of calculating hours. Please try again!". Perhaps a reference to User:Tony Sidaway's removal of WP:3RR complaint at 23:24 the previous evening [194].
- 19:09-22:43
- Abrupt appearance and short posting life of User:Kiramtu Kunettabib, who posts a testimonial to User:LIGerasimova, whom he names as Luba Ivanovna Gerasimova and says "is well known to me." Also posts personal attacks on Tabib on Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh and then just vanishes into the ether [195].
- 20:08
- Rhobite blocked "User:64.136.2.254?" with an expiry time of 24 hours (osmanoglou - anti-turkish vandal)
- 21:31
- User talk:Rovoam: User:KeithTyler as advocate notifies Rovoam of Tabib's request for mediation [196].
[edit] 03 Mar
- 04:22
- User talk:Rovoam Rovoam declines mediation [197].
[edit] 04 Mar
- 10:40
- Brief appearance of shortlived editor User:Dubistdas Letztearschloch who makes personal attacks on User:Tabib on WP:RFM, User talk:Tabib and WP:RFAR, calling him a psychopath etc, [198]., [199] and [200]. Few other edits. Total editing lifespan is just over one hour. contributions. Name seems to be composed of the German phrase "du bist das letzte Arschloch", which presumably means "you are the last (ultimate?) asshole." A google search suggests that it's a fairly common German language insult.
[edit] 10 Mar
- 22:51
- User:Ossmanoglou: User Ossmanoglou posts spurious block notice to his own userpage [201] (presumably an attempt to forestall blocking).
- 23:03-23:06
- User talk:Grunt: User:Ossmanoglou makes personal attacks on Grunt and Rhobite, titled "Sucking a cock a day keeps the urge away!" [202] (diff over three edits).
- 23:14
- User talk:Tabib: User:Ossmanoglou repeats attack on Grunt and Rhobite , saying "It applies to you too, literally!" to User:Tabib [203]
- 23:21
- Rhobite blocked "User:Ossmanoglou" with an expiry time of indefinite (vandal)
[edit] 11 Mar
- 23:48 (previous day), 00:05, 00:09
- User:Othmanoglou vandalizes image and user page of User:Rhobite. Sole edits by this user contributions.
- 00:25
- Rhobite blocked "User:Othmanoglou" with an expiry time of indefinite (osmanoglou)
- 09:33, 19:52
- User:Rhobite: User:Osmaanoglou vandalizes user page of Rhobite
- 11:16
- User talk:Osmaanoglou: Standard welcome message from User:Sam Spade [204].
- 19:48, 19:49
- User talk:Sam Spade: User:Osmaanoglou puts a message on Sam Spade's user talk page: "As I will be surely blocked soon by an itchy (tight) youngster, there won't be much editing from me, though" then comes back and signs it [205], [206].
- 20:24
- Rhobite blocked "User:Osmaanoglou" with an expiry time of indefinite (persistent vandal)
[edit] 12 Mar
- 08:28
- User:Rhobite: User:Outhmanoglou vandalizes edit page of Rhobite. Sole edit by this user. contributions.
- 08:28
- Rhobite blocked "User:Outhmanoglou" with an expiry time of indefinite (osmanoglou)
- 17:28
- Template:User_Tony_Sidaway/User. User:Oussmannoglou alters photo to faked picture of Saddam Hussein being tortured [207].
- 18:24
- Tony Sidaway blocked "User:Oussmannoglou?" with an expiry time of indefinite (Returning page vandal osmanoglou Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Baku_Ibne,_et_al./Evidence)
- 19:24-5
- User:Osman Oglou vandalized this page [208], [209].
- The page vandal continued in this vein, popping up a sock, vandalizing (usually replacing Tony Sidaway's self portrait with a picture of a rather athletic young chap pleasuring himself with his mouth) and getting the whack-a-mole treatment.
- 19:27
- Fred Bauder blocked "User:Osman Oglou" with an expiry time of indefinite (sock vandal)
- 19:37, 19:38
- User:Tony Sidaway and User:Curps each protect Nagorno-Karabakh Republic in its unforked state.
- Tony Sidaway protected Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (Protection requested by User:Tabib. Content dispute.)
- Curps protected Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (this is a redirect that keeps getting replaced by a forked page)
- 19:41-20:06
- Impersonations of User:Tabib by User:-Tabib on User:-Tabib, User talk:-Tabib, User talk:Tony Sidaway. User talk:LIGerasimova, and Talk:Autofellatio. contributions.
- 20:34
- Tony Sidaway blocked "User:-Tabib" with an expiry time of indefinite (Impersonation of Tabib)
[edit] Other vandalism
Please see User:Tony Sidaway/Admin log and the site logs for an account of various osmanoglou-related vandalism blocks, reverts, etc.
[edit] 16 Mar
- 13:35
- User:Tony Sidaway protects Nagorno-Karabakh on request of User:Tabib.
[edit] 17 Mar
- 23:13
- User:Rovoam blanks talk page of User:Tony Sidaway and inserts following text:
- I don't think you can act as Admin in Wikipedia. You support not NPOV. You act on behave of User:Tabib, protecting him and his versions od the articles. If you continue your destructive behaviour, you will end-up protecting all your home pages as well, as I will publish here articles you have reverted so far.
- This was followed by the entire text of what the user described as "Correct version of the article Nagorno-Karabakh Republic". [210].
- I believe that my actions in protecting Nagorno-Karabakh republic and Nagorno-Karabakh should be scrutinized closely by the committee.
- User:Rovoam blanks talk page of User:Tony Sidaway and inserts following text:
- 23:41
- Rovoam writes a message headed "I won't stop!" on User talk:Rdsmith4, containing the threat: "I will do this for ALL other articles in Wikipedia. Because I don't like you. I will destroy you!" [211]
- 23:46
- Rovoam blanks User talk:Rdsmith4 and writes the message "Try block my IP address! Try! I will get another one. Plus, I will bring here a hundred friends from all over the world. I will destroy the idea of Wikipedia! " [212].
[edit] 18 Mar
Vandalism report submitted by me, early hours of 18th:
User:Rovoam, 66.52.21.46, 63.53.xxx.xxx and 4.232.45.116
- Rovoam (talk · contributions), and various unlogged-in variants such as
- 66.53.208.210 (talk · contributions)
- 66.53.40.241 (talk · contributions)
- 66.53.215.89 (talk · contributions)
- 66.53.52.172 (talk · contributions)
- 66.53.43.92 (talk · contributions)
- 4.232.45.116 (talk · contributions)
- 66.52.21.46 (talk · contributions)
got a real vandalizemebaby thing going on User:Tony Sidaway, User talk: Tony Sidaway, User:Tabib User:Rdsmith4, Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh, Karabakh, Azerbaijan, etc.
[edit] Dramatis personae
For convenience, I provide a brief summary of the users involved.
- LIGerasimova (talk · contributions) (Stalks Tabib accusing him of making pro-Turkish propaganda--only one good article space edit)
- Rovoam (talk · contributions) Andrew Kirsanoff, contributes to English and Russian Wikipedias. Had a rather acrimonious dispute with Tabib on Nagorno-Karabakh, which he has tried to resolve by creating forks of the article. A little over-enthusiastic with the reverts (not the only one in this squabble who is like that) and was reported on WP:AN/3RR and blocked 1 March. Resorted to page vandalism on 17 March, following protection of Nagorno-Karabakh Republic as a redirect to Nagorno-Karabakh, and protection of the latter article on The Wrong Version.
- Pantherarosa (talk · contributions) (Edit war with Tabib on Safavids, early Feb. No edits since 28 Feb. Previously made extensive article space edits. Much knowledge of Persian culture and history. Seems like a net loss to the Wikipedia community if he has left)
- Baku Ibne (talk · contributions) (Trolls Tabib with homosexual language ("Ibne"), made spurious report on WP:VIP)
- Osmanoglou (talk · contributions) (First to edit Tabib's user page to call him "Ibne" (poofter, faggot), made spurious vandal report to WP:VIP, made good faith but unwelcome edits to AllyUnion's user page)
- Pansee (talk · contributions) (Taunted Tabib over autofellatio--suspected to be same person as page vandal who is also using autofellatio as a theme (got it from me, obviously))
- Photographer (talk · contributions) (User page vandal obsessed with homosexuality)
- -Tabib (talk · contributions) (impersonator)
- -duk (talk · contributions) (impersonator)
- Dubistdas Letztearschloch (talk · contributions) (Attacked Tabib calling him a psychopath. Name means "you're the last asshole")
- Tabib (talk · contributions) (Complainant)
- Twinkletoes (talk · contributions) (Minor taunts about Turks, emotionality and dancing)
- Kiramtu Kunettabib (talk · contributions) (claims he knows LIGerasimova and concurs with her view of Tabib on Tabib's RFC against her)
- Deli-Eshek (talk · contributions) (briefly partially supported Tabib, disagreed with Ulvi I., then disappeared. )
- Ulvi I. (talk · contributions) (briefly supported Tabib then disappeared. Edited in Talk and on RFC only. Posted seemingly good sources.)
- BoredVandal (talk · contributions) Juvenile taunts, 18 March.
[edit] Assorted page vandals:
Some of these users send juvenile taunts in Wikipedia email after they're blocked. The return email addresses all look like fakes against real mail provider domains. Almost certainly all the same person with a lot of time on his hands. This guy seems to wake and sleep when Europeans wake and sleep.
- Oussmannoglou (talk · contributions)
- Osman Oglou (talk · contributions)
- Sikeyim (talk · contributions)
- Tony Sidaways (talk · contributions)
- Fuxtony Sidaways (talk · contributions)
- Fux Djclayworth (talk · contributions)
- Smegman (talk · contributions)
- Azari Vandal (talk · contributions)
- Smeg Man (talk · contributions)
- Loney Pridegays (talk · contributions)
[edit] Whois
- ripe.net
- whois 84.154.63.43 (talk · contributions): 84.128.0.0/11 belongs to t-com.de (Deutsche Telecom)
- A subrange of this (very large) range, approximately 84.154.0.0/16, is implicated in extensive page vandalism starting with Safavids and extending to user pages. Also originating page range of an edit by 84.154.123.111 (talk · contributions) signed "L. I. GERASIMOVA", later signed by newly created User:LIGerasimova. This is a major German ISP. The easily recognisable modus operandi, focus on Safavids and the person of Tabib, suggests a single user with a dial-up account with dynamic IP directly accessing Wikipedia's systems with no intervening proxy.
- Instances:
- 84.154.123.111 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.114.240 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.63.43 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.126.152 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.54.194 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.102.141 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.77.120 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.91.20 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.104.16 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.82.86 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.50.175 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.88.59 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.122.26 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.73.216 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.109.26 (talk · contributions)
- 84.154.126.152 (talk · contributions)
- whois 84.154.63.43 (talk · contributions): 84.128.0.0/11 belongs to t-com.de (Deutsche Telecom)
- arin
- whois 64.136.2.254 (talk · contributions): 64.136.0.0/18 belongs to Juno Online Services Inc, Burbank, CA. http://www.juno.com/, provided by United Online http://www.untd.com/
- User:64.136.2.254 seems to act as Rovoam's proxy. Created Nagorno-Karabakh article fork at Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh. Vandalized User:Tony Sidaway user page once (2 Mar). 64.136.27.228 was apparently used by Rovoam when he was blocked for WP:3RR (1 Mar).
- whois 66.53.212.49 (talk · contributions): 66.53.212.0/24 belongs to Netzero, Inc http://www.netzero.net/ provided by United Online http://www.untd.com/
- Made a spurious but probably good-faith report against Tabib on WP:AN/3RR (timestamps not within 24 hours, so invalid report). Probably Rovoam. Also 66.53.55.53 (talk · contributions) (same date) seems to be Rovoam.
- 66.52.0.0/15 used by Rovoam for page vandalism on 17/18 March, after his username was blocked for earlier vandalism and threats to destroy Wikipedia. 66.52.0.0/15 belongs to Pac-West Telecomm, INC and the subranges seem to be subassigned to Netzero [213].
- 4.0.0.0/8 is a massive range assigned to the network transport provider "Level 3". 4.232.45.11 was used, apparently by Rovoam, to perform some page vandalism on 18 March after the Netzero ranges had been blocked.
- whois 64.136.2.254 (talk · contributions): 64.136.0.0/18 belongs to Juno Online Services Inc, Burbank, CA. http://www.juno.com/, provided by United Online http://www.untd.com/
[edit] Evidence presented by User:Dbachmann
[edit] 13 March
this briefly spilled to my talkpage because of Tony Sidaway's being stalked by the vandal, [214]; after I blocked User:Suckabloke, I received the following via wiki-email
Received: (from apache@localhost) by tingxi.wikimedia.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2DBnDot009794; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:49:13 GMT Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:49:13 GMT Message-Id: <200503131149.j2DBnDot009794@tingxi.wikimedia.org> X-Authentication-Warning: tingxi.wikimedia.org: apache set sender to wiki@wikimedia.org using -f Subject: Wikipedia e-mail From: Suckabloke <suck@gmail.org> X-Mailer: MediaWiki interuser e-mailer Etwa Du auch, Dieter?!! Bitte nicht. "Wikipedia" sackt immer weiter ab. Bald "Paedophilia" ??? Suckabloke
suggesting that this person is indeed based in Germany. dab (ᛏ) 14:14, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- subsequently [215], I am being shouted at in Turkish. Imho this indicates we are dealing with a kurdish expatriate in Germany. dab (ᛏ) 16:03, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Further Osmanoglou socks
The following accounts were also socks, confirmed by technical evidence and consistent style of edits. Most of these were throwaway vandalism accounts.
- LIGerasimova - Note this appears to be the user's "good cop" account, even providing evidence in this case.
- Hadagoodlaugh
- Pansee
- -Tabib
- -duk
- Dubistdas Letztearschloch
- Kiramtu Kunettabib
- Outhmanoglou
- Osmaanoglou
- Jeanvaljeanvaljean
- Fux Djclayworth
- Fuxtony Sidaways
- Postman Oglou
- Smegman
- Goastman Oglou
- Hostman Ugly
- Blockasock
- Suckabloke
- Tony Sidaways
- Sikeyim
- Tony Sideaway
- Osman Oglou
- Oussmannoglou
There's probably a pile more, but you get the idea. - David Gerard 02:33, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)