Wikipedia:Requested templates/Created/2006/May
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[edit] Two templates
Mainly because I suck at finding out where to edit a template proper, I need two.
Well technically one but the infobox: one is for soapopera charcters. character, real name, age, spouse(s), family, first appearance, last appearance, status, occupation, portrayed by, etc. something like the charmed characters infobox just without the magic. maybe have a core cast one and a supporting cast one. possibly a family one. Look at me getting all greedy.
The other is a better one for the people infobox. person, birth name, dob, place of birth, date of death, place of death, cause of death, notable relatives, occupation, known for, etc.
Or whatever someone can come up with will be much appreciated.
Cheers
Originalsinner 22:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
- See new Template:Infobox character and updates to Template:Infobox Person. --CBDunkerson 20:15, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sea Cadet Organisations
Please visit Sea Cadets (disambiguation) to view a growing list of Sea Cadet Corps and similar organisations. Many are still redlinked. We are not yet sure precisely how many individual nations and within those how many individual Sea Cadet Corps (and similar organisations) there are. A hard coded list on each page under "See also" is fast becoming unwieldy
[edit] Design
The ideal template will:
- fill a master grid with the fact that a new page has the template attribute entered ion it
- provide that master grid at the foot of any page including the template.
- insert the page in a category (which may need creation) "Naval Cadet Orgnisations"
[edit] Parameters
Since there is often more than one Sea Cadet (or similar) organisation, plus some form of charity backing the corps, plus a supporter's group or more, per nation, I think two parameters have to be passed to the template:
- Nation
- Name of Article
[edit] Enhanced version
Optionally a third parameter could be considered: that of "Other" where the organisation is not itself a Corps. Default with this parameter absent would be that it is a corps
With this parameter present the listing in the grid could either be split into twin grids (one for a Corps and the other for "Associated Organisations") or be annnotated in a single grid to indicate that an Associated organisation is identifiable. I see that as "designer's discretion".
[edit] Probable input format
{{Naval-cadets|Nation|Article Name|(optional param for other)}}
The following on two different pages create the output grid below:
- {{Naval-cadets|United Kingdom|Sea Cadet Corps (United Kingdom))}
- {{Naval-cadets|International|International Sea Cadet Association|other)}
Where "other" is not null then it should really set the flag. Unless you know a better way, of course :)
[edit] Possible output Format
I am not a designer! That much should be immediately obvious! My thinking runs as follows:
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Naval Cadet Organisations |
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| Nation | Naval Cadet Organisation | Optional |
| United Kingdom | Sea Cadet Corps (United Kingdom) | |
| International | International Sea Cadet Association | Associated org marker |
| Associated org marker: This is a governing body, or supporter's organisation or similar organisation |
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I'm pretty sure it would need to be in smaller font than a default page font, and in colours to suit the various skins.
Fiddle Faddle 13:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately templates are not 'two directional' like that. The only 'self building lists' on Wikipedia are categories... but the pages in the category don't get shown when it is transcluded. However, once a list exists it is possible to then transclude it onto pages and automatically add those pages to categories. See {{Naval cadets}} for the start of an attempt to do so. The form 'naval cadets|short' excludes items the 'supporter organization' type items. Please comment or make updates there. --CBDunkerson 23:12, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Looks really good so far. Good choice of colours for naval matters, too.
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- So, what you are saying is that I have to create a new category "Naval Cadets" (how do I do that?), and then the template you are making will be able to add that to the categories the page has already? Or have I got it wrong?
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- And I (or others) have to add new pages to the template manually? It's cool if so, I just need to know. And if that is the case I imagine the tempate needs an "Update this template" link on it?
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- Apologies if I am asking very basic questions, but I have a very basic knowledge.
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- Fiddle Faddle 00:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Hi. Actually, any page you put {{naval cadets}} on will automatically be added to Category:Naval Cadet Organisations. However, you are correct about needing to update the list manually. I made the 'Naval Cadet Organizations' text in the title bar a link to the template to help facilitate this. --CBDunkerson 00:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] strawman
In order to improve the quality of articles and reduce reversion wars, it would be useful to have a selection of inline templates with which to denote various logical fallacies. Line-based (not by section or article), use of these would help identify and resolve conflicts amicably, help save time in the Talk pages (thereby encouraging incremental improvemets), and help avert major page revisions. My sense is this is technically easy (the coding), but will require some thought for implementation. (Otherwise I'd do it myself; but I'm seeking guidance here from more seasoned Template builders.) As Wikipedia becomes more mature, measures to improve stability and quality are increasingly important. These inline templates may help achieve this.
For example, perhaps the most common form of rhetorical fallacy and abuse is the Straw man. To start with, could someone please create an inline template, {{strawman}}, with which to mark such fallacies? At a minimum, all it really has to do is insert the words [ StrawMan ] at the point of insertion in an Article. It could do more, of course. Just to brainstorm here: e.g., it could add the article to a (new) page to be called, perhaps, [Category:Articles with logical fallacies#Straw man] or [Category:Articles with straw man fallacies]. It could automatically make mention of the sentence in the Discussion page, along the lines of:
- ==Logic Improvements==
- "User [#user] suggests there may be a Straw man fallacy in this sentence: "[#sentence]". Please help to clarify the logic."
Etc. We might start with {Straw man} as an experiment. If it works well, then here are a few other fallacy templates to add later: RedHerring, Ad hominem, Correlation, PostHoc, Affirming, Majority, Ignorantiam, Circular, Equivocation. Others can be added. There should be presumably be a "Template:Fallacies" page, which lists all such templates. Presumably these would go in [Category:Wikipedia maintenance templates] and/or [Category:Wikipedia cleanup templates].
Thank you! Prof. Murphy et al 19:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
- I added an option for this as {{fix|strawman}}. I have some reservations about this proposed class of 'maintenance notes' though. Notes which request a citation for a particular point or suggest a merge do not include an inherent 'accusation' as these do. Also, if a user sees something as a straw man argument it would seem to make more sense to correct it than to tag it as such... the person who wrote it that way very likely considers it an accurate portrayal of the opposing view and is therefor not going to be able to make a more complete argument. Put it to use and we'll see how it goes. --CBDunkerson 23:47, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Great, and good points. Let's see how it works. Thank you! Prof. Murphy et al 21:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Indent Port from WikiSource
This is source code for a template that will allow indenting from wikisource. I thought it would be useful from time to time, particularly if it can be used inline to pad out several text columns one would like to line up despite personal font size scaling settings.
It displayed so badly with nowiki's, I just acted boldly to edit-create it. It embedds a category that we apparently don't use, so someone should fix it if that is desired. See the talk at Template:Indent.
Best regards, // FrankB 21:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- The category was just a 's' vs 'z' spelling issue. I changed it. --CBDunkerson 19:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
