Talk:Rende, Tainan

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[edit] Taiwan

Taiwan is fine because it is the common name for the ROC. People should read the Naming conventions!--Jerrypp772000 19:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

It was originally fine with ROC in the back, before Jerry came along with his mass edits adding Taiwan and deleting all instances of ROC and Republic of China. Clearly, he has a political motive. -Nationalist 22:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Stop saying that! I am trying to help the readers. Before I came along? I am an older editor than you! I've already explained this with you so many times. Do we have to discuss this in every single article? Fine I'll show you the reasons again! Right here on this talk page.
  1. Taiwan is the common name for the ROC. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names)
  2. More than 55% people in the ROC consider themselves Taiwanese, not Chinese.
  3. This town is also located on the island of Taiwan no matter what.
  4. ROC confuses people that don't know the histories of China and Taiwan. See Talk:Guantian, Tainan, a third opinion is shown there, which I believe you know.
  • I understand that you are a new editor of Wikipedia, but there are rules here. Maybe you didn't know, but please assume good faith. I have never said before, in Wikipedia, that I have a POV of a political party or what ever. Stop saying things that aren't true about me.--Jerrypp772000 22:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Well that's really ironic, because you also came in with the same mass edit tagging every Taiwan-related article with "ROC" or "Republic of China". How do you justify your own "political motive"? (Don't tell me it's a fact—it's a political fact, which means POV) Vic226(chat) 22:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

It is a fact!! that the ROC controls Taiwan!!! why dont u guys admit that? I am not tagging everything. I am just undoing Jerrys unjustified POV edits -Taiwanlove 00:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Did you even read WP:NC, if you didn't, maybe you should try this--Jerrypp772000 00:08, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I told you NOT to respond with the "It is a fact!!!"-type answer. Of course ROC administrates Taiwan as a province, but this article is about geographical history and significance of the place, unrelated to the political view to which you have been implementing on other articles. We don't need to know about the "ROC controls Taiwan" fact because we already know it.
And you haven't answer my question on your own "political motive". Please don't fumble over my question. Vic226(chat) 05:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
And also, the term "Taiwan province" is rarely used in Taiwan or ROC these days.--Jerrypp772000 00:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

First off, please look at the naming conventions for Chinese. I have finally looked and Republic of China should be added. This is a city of Taiwan Province, Republic of China. Republic of China definitely needs to be added here. It is a political entity this city. -Nationalist 00:49, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

If the naming conventions are disputed, then it might not be accurate. Also please see what I explained in Talk:Jhunan, Miaoli. And remember there was a third opinion given in Talk:Guantian, Tainan. Thanks.--Jerrypp772000 01:54, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
And even if they are accurate, I still have the right to ignore them, because I am trying to improve these articles by making them less confusing. See similar discussions in Talk:Yuanshan, Yilan also. Thanks.--Jerrypp772000 01:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

So you are admitting that it is accurate. and that you are ignoring them? If so, I will ignore you completely. You need to follow the conventions no matter what. -Nationalist 02:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Nationalist: please respond to my question here instead of ignoring it like you did to Borgarde's message to you before you blanked your own talk page. Vic226 03:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Nationalist, ignore me what? WP:IAR doesn't say that you can ignore the consensus. And if you can, you need a reason to ignore a rule, a good one.--Jerrypp772000 17:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)