Talk:Renault Clio
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The following line doesn't state where the information comes from.
"This car was meant to compete with the 180 bhp RS version of Peugeot 206 in the market, although there have been calls to outlaw such muscular subcompact cars due to their extremely hazardous handling."
The Clio 172 came out before the Peugeot 260 GTI 180. The clio *182* was released after.
It seems to me that the article should state where the 'calls' originated. I have not heard the phrase "extremely hazardous handling" with regard to any small performance car.
The article also needs to include the new Renault Sport variants (172 CUP, 182 CUP, Trophy) and more information about the new model, which is now available.
[edit] Howabout a mention to its TV advert stars
How about giving a mention to the people who appeared on the adverts as they had a lot to do with Clio sales in the UK as I only know the names of two with the exception of the first and the current one. Willirennen 13.48 23 February 2006 (utc)
In Mexico exist two differents models: one is Renault Clio and another one is Nissan Platina, they are NOT the same.
It was mentioned above that Cliosport variants should be added. I spent time and energy adding this information and have now found that someone has edited it all out - thanks....
All you did was replacing the information of Clio Sport launched in France, by the information of a model sold in the UK. Mind you, Renault Clio is a French car and new models are usually available in the manufacturer country first which should be used as a reference rather than randomly pick one of some 30 countries where the car is exported. Deleting the metric units was totally uncalled for too. Again, Clio is a French car, the original specification and design are metric and therefore the metric system should be used primarily, if not exclusively. --Z220info 22:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I removed the cliosport section for cleanup. I think it's good information but needs to be made more objective, put into its own section and have its sources cited. It was in the wrong place as part of the Mk2 phase II section (in my opinion anyway) - since the cars are sport editions, rather than the common factory models. I agree the input was good... indeed that's part of the problem. You put so much information in that it swamped the section. I'm not trying to take out your input - just give it the section to itself it deserves for the quantity of information. Please read belowAudigex (talk) 14:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "Clio 1.6"
It should be noted at the "Mexico" section, that the Clio Mk2 is still sold as "Clio 1.6" in Mexico (1.6 to differentiate it from the new clio, sold as "Euroclio". Also, the Mk2 has (and has always had) the option of an automatic transmission, I don't know where else this was an option. Also the new clio doesn't. Also, the Mk2 only ever had one engine available, the 1.6 I4 Gasoline.
Source: http://www.masclio.com.mx/
Perhaps some of this is worth mentioning... 189.146.65.227 04:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Clio Mk2 Phase 2 (1998-2008)"
This section is a) Biased b) Not about the phase 2 Clio, it's about the various Renault Sport editions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.242.88 (talk) 00:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Agreed - Clio Mk2 Phase 2 (2001-2008) section seems to be almost totallty related to the cup editions. Should be a seperate section Audigex (talk) 14:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the following section - leaving it here for reference... simply because it's about the 172,182 and 192, rather then the clio mk 2 phase 2. If anyone wants to make a seperate section, the info is here... although I'd consider it enthusiastic, it's hardly encyclopediac.
The Renault Sport (formerly Alpine) factory in Dieppe got its hands on the latest model and so the mk2 ph1 Renault Sport Clio 172 was facelifted inside and out and some modifications made to the engine, including a change to fly by wire from cable throttle, producing the mk2 ph2 Renault Sport Clio 172. A lightened more focused version was also added to the range, known as the Renault Sport Clio 172 Cup. 172 Cups were produced in 2 colours, mainly Mondial Blue (similar to Arctic Blue as used on the later 182) and a smaller number of Iceburg Silver cups, all have silver 16" Speedline Turini alloys as standard. The Cup benefited from lower, stiffer suspension, massive weight reduction (80 kg![neutrality disputed]) which was achieved with thinner glass, spare wheel removal, removal of air conditioning and thus use of a smaller Alternator, the 172 cup also has no ABS or traction control making it what many[who?] deem to be the most hardcore of the Renault Sport Clio range[neutrality disputed]. The Renault Sport Clio 172's replacement was announced in late 2003 in the guise of the Renault Sport Clio 182 - featuring several discrete changes such as stiffer suspension, wider track, a slightly longer wheelbase, and the not so subtle[neutrality disputed] twin centre exit exhausts. The exhaust manifold, catalytic converter and exhausts themselves providing the main power increase to 182 PS (approx 179 hp) compared to the previous 172 (169 hp). From its introduction the 182 had cup pack options - the cup suspension pack being recognisable by the Anthracite wheels where those without cup suspension have silver wheels - the cup suspension is slightly stiffer and the hubs are stronger than those on the 182 without cup suspension (which uses 172 hubs albeit with the wider track associated with the 182. The cup spoiler pack feature a splitter under the front bumper and an enlarged boot spoiler, as previously fitted on the 172 cup. The Clio 182 Cup came about in 2005 with less bells and whistles[neutrality disputed] than the 182 (yet featuring both cup packs as standard) and hence a lower price tag - only available in Racing Blue (with or without Gordini tribute stripes) and Inferno Red (Orange![neutrality disputed]). The special edition Renault Sport Clio 182 Trophy, recognisable by its Capsicum Red paint and anthracite coloured Speedline Turini alloy wheels, came about after the 182 Cup. The Trophy has been heralded[who?] as one of the best hot hatches of all time and won 'Evo' magazine's People's Performance Car of The Year, 2005, beating rivals such as the Lamborghini Gallardo and other exotica in the process. Only 500 were made for the UK (and 50 for Switzerland). The main difference between the Trophy and the normal 182 Cup is the Sachs race-engineered suspension that affords the Trophy handling unparalleled in its market[neutrality disputed], designed specifically for the UK's demanding Car Enthusiast market[neutrality disputed], specifically to suit UK A and B roads[citation needed]. Renault also produced the mk2 ph2 Clio v6, which looks like it is on steroids compared to the 182[neutrality disputed]. The Mk2 Ph2 V6 is a mid engined, rear wheel drive, 255 bhp (190 kW) 24v 3.0 litre baby supercar, it is quite a spectacle[neutrality disputed]. Featuring a manufacturers stated: 0 - 62.5 speed of 5.6sec and a top speed of 153 mph (246 km/h).
