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[edit] American Religious Humanism
"However it is careful not to outline a creed or dogma." Is not the Humanist Manifesto a creed or dogma? This sentence needs to be deleted.
[edit] Spiritual Humanism
I am not certain that Spiritual Humanism should be included in Religious Humanism as it appears to be just one guy with a website, a post office box, and an online store.
Your wrong, The Church of Spiritual Humanism has over 100,000 members. Go to the NYTimes site and do a search - http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&query=%22spiritual+humanism%22&srchst=nyt&submit.x=18&submit.y=12&submit=sub&hdlquery=&bylquery=&daterange=full&mon1=01&day1=01&year1=1981&mon2=12&day2=28&year2=2006 (sorry for the long link) Also please sign your posts. 2ct7 23:31, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I did but I did not see anything convincing. It appears that Spiritual Humanism is a diploma mill for ordination. [[David Wallace Croft 21:54, 30 December 2006 (UTC)]]
Since they don't award diplomas or any academic degrees they are obviously not a diploma mill. If you had read the link I posted you would have seen most of their clergy performing ceremonies listed in the New York Times are as far from being holders of diploma mill degrees as one can get. If you think the editor in chief of Scientific American is associated with a diploma mill for performing a wedding as a clergy person form the Church of Spiritual Humanism then I suggest your viewpoint is skewed. Maybe this is not the organization you want it to be but being as they are the largest religious humanist organization in the United States they obviously should be kept on the page. 2ct7 04:25, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
I do not find you credible. Any organization with 100,000 members would have made a larger footprint than what Spiritual Humanism has done. Unitarian Universalism, for example, has 217,000 members. Spiritual Humanism appears to be an "ordination mill". If you want to convince me otherwise, show me evidence of a history of conferences, publications, churches, and elections. [[David Wallace Croft 13:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC)]]
How you find me and your personal opinion of Spiritual Humanism are not the issues. You can make up whatever impossible requirements you want. The fact is Spiritual Humanism is the largest religious humanist organization in the US with over 100,000 members and many religious services as demonstrated by the NYTimes link. If any organization should be on this page they should.
Why do you keep deleting the discussion on this page? 2ct7 14:08, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
I delete the discussion when there is no one is adding anything new on the older topics. How do you know that Spiritual Humanism has over 100,000 members? [[David Wallace Croft 19:10, 31 December 2006 (UTC)]]
Archive — don't delete 100,000 members2ct7 00:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
