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[edit] Stats on Jews
The stats given in the other faiths section seem a little muddled, total number is given as 6400, then I don't reall understand what the numbers given after Edinburgh and Glasgow are supposed to represent. are they supposed to be 1,000 and 7,000 (in which case the total doesn't stack up correctly), or are they percentages or something, the numbers actually have decimal points rather than commas in. David Underdown 09:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- the text came from the article History of the Jews in Scotland, so I haven't a clue what that editor was thinking, so I removed the offending text and generalised it. --Bob 15:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Established church
The Church of Scotland, also known as The Kirk, is recognised in law (by the Church of Scotland Act 1921) as the national church in Scotland, but is not an established church
But would it not be historically accurate to say that it formerly was an established church (before 1921)? If so (and I'm no expert on Scottish church history) then it would seem more honest to admit the fact, however un-PC it may be to have such a thing. Myopic Bookworm 11:00, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- My understanding is that the answer is "no", but of course we need verifiable references. The UK Act of Parliament merely legislatively confirmed what was already a fact. Now, if you are talking about pre-1707, I do not know if it was "established" in the former Kingdom of Scotland. Can anyone enlighten us. (Ask the editors at the Church of Scotland article too). --Mais oui! 12:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Yes I suppose the Kirk was once an Established Church. Arguably it still is, effectively --Slackbuie 17:31, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Other Faiths
I'm going to tweak this a bit. The part about neo-Druids and Wiccans being persecuted "for centuries" is inaccurate as these are modern religions. --Kathryn NicDhàna 21:59, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I've linked `no religion' to Atheism --- not because those with no religion believe definitively that there is no god, but `negative Atheism' is just the lack of religion (which is explained in that article.) It seemed wrong not to have any link for the second-largest belief system in Scotland. --Jaibe 15:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
No, but huge numbers of 'witches' were certainly hanged and burned for hundreds of years, albeit these were people who were accused of witchcraft. I'd say that being any sort of pagan back in those times was not particularly healthy. --SpaceLem (talk) 11:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Membership and claimed affiliation in Christian churches
User:Grcampbell changed my revision of the introduction because I stated that the Catholic Church had a similar membership to the Church of Scotland. Well, yes and no. Church statistics in Scotland are notoriously complicated because different denominations count their members in different ways. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church (1997) suggested that some 20 per cent of the population was Catholic- by the 2001 census [1] this had fallen to 15.88 per cent of the population calling themselves this, whilst- right enough!- 42.40 per cent described themselves as 'Church of Scotland'. However, many of those calling themselves 'Catholic' or 'Church of Scotland' may not, in fact, be 'official' members of the denomination in question. The membership of the Church of Scotland is around the 600,000 mark [2]- unfortunately at this time of night I can't get statistics for the Catholic Church, but I note that Bernard Aspinall in The Oxford Companion to Scottish History suggests that in 1990s Sunday Mass attendance was around a quarter of a million. --Slackbuie 23:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- 47% and 20% are too different to say that they are the same. The referenced table at the bottom states the faith of those questioned, yet we state something completely different in the introduction. Coherency is a must within any encyclopedia, which is why I partially reverted your changes. --Bob 22:15, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
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- I should have said that the Catholic Church claims a roughly similar membership as the Church of Scotland. However the basic problem is that different churches figure these things out in different ways. The number of people claiming some sort of affiliation to the Church of Scotland is much greater than the figure the Church of Scotland would claim as their membership. Church of Scotland congregations are required to state the numbers of more or less active members, whereas I believe the Catholic church simply estimates the number of baptised Catholics living in a parish. I think that the census results are a more accurate picture of the religious situation than trying to compare church statistics which measure different things. But for active participation in religion the best figures are those relating to church attendance, which I will try and dig out sometime. --Slackbuie 17:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Largely Secular?
"Scotland is now a largely secular nation, with Church attendance very low"
I don't think this statement is justified factually. Currently 3389490 million people in Scotland are apart of a religion according to the facts provided in the article itself. There is no source to the claim that Church attendance is "very low". If no-one provides facts for this statement I will re-word it to better reflect Scotland's current religious climate.
[edit] Orthodoxy in Scotland
What about the Orthodox members of Scotland? I know there is at least one Greek Orthodox Cathedral in Scotland. Mind you I only skimmed this article so I apologize if there was some mention 71.194.63.161 (talk) 01:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
