Talk:Reg Christie

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Christie is stated to be the landlord of 10 Rillington Place, but the article on the house says he illegally sublet his flat when he went on the run, and the real landlord ejected the new tenants. There are some other inconsistencies between the accounts at the two pages; I think they should probably be combined, but my own knowledge of the case is limited to the Attenborough film. Deadlock 14:32, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Wedding ring/Wedding band

The article states that Christie sold his wife's wedding ring and her wedding band They are one and the same thing. Lion King 03:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Geraldine

Who precisely is Geraldine? I removed "and that he did not kill Geraldine", if we can find out who she is it should be replaced. Thanks, SqueakBox 21:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

As the article says, Geraldine Evans, the daughter of Timothy and Beryl Evans, born October 1949. -- Arwel (talk) 22:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Yep, it was a really unclear introduction to who she was but is now fixed. Thanks, SqueakBox 02:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

It is really ridiculous to suggest that my added comments are POV when I cannot find a single example of anyone who would disagree after all these years that a mass killer did not murder Evans wife and daughter. Please provide details of any authorities who think otherwise. Peterlewis (talk) 12:55, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I think the onus is on you to provide citations to back up your insertion. Also, did you mean to imply above that nobody thinks that Evans's wife and child were killed by a mass murderer (ie Christie)? If so, who does everybody think did kill them? Your wording is rather convoluted and unclear. 160.9.95.5 (talk) 11:11, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Inconsistencies

The article states that the Brabin report indicates that Evans probably killed his own wife Beryl. This conflicts with accounts elsewhere, which leave virtually no doubt that Beryl was killed by Christie not Evans. What was in doubt was whether Evans' daughter Geraldine was killed by Christie or by Evans. Evans was only prosecuted for the murder of his daughter, not his wife, so he was eventually pardoned only for the crime for which he had been prosecuted, but that does not mean that he 'probably' killed his wife.

A second point, if this is not a daft question, is why would Christie have frequented prostitutes if he was impotent? If he was impotent then prostitutes would not have been of much use to him.  ??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.183.242 (talk) 09:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

While for the most part impotent, Christie at times was able to perform sexual intercourse, eg with his wife, prostitutes, and with Beryl's corpse (presumably) - Christie's visits with prostitutes are documented in Kennedy's book. Re the Brabin Report, we can perhaps look at it as a face-saving exercise for the British legal system, much like the earlier Henderson Report (its conclusion was that though wrongfully convicted, Evans was still guilty of a crime and so not entirely innocent). I think its conclusion was included by WP editors to emphasise the point that though Christie is commonly assumed to have murdered both Beryl and Geraldine, there's still no definitive proof for this and the case is still open-ended.Wikischolar1983 (talk) 12:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Christie's Date of Birth

Christie's date of birth is in fact the original one that was listed, 8 April 1898. The weblink for 8 April 1899 (which actually refers to June 1899) is referring to when Christie's birth was officially registered. The national archives webpage explicitly points this out - ie, that Christie was born on 8/4/1898 and did not have his birth registered until June the following year.Wikischolar1983 (talk) 12:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that's interesting. I had assumed that as the official records had the birth registered in the quarter ending June 1899 (ie any time in April/May/June, not specifically the month of June), and that the legal requirement is (and I believe was at the time) for a birth to be registered within six weeks (which could further have allowed for a date in March or late February), that there had simply been a mistake in entering the year in the article - though why it should have been the subject of numerous reversion was at that point a mystery to me. Out of curiosty - has anyone here checked what the actual certificate says? 160.9.95.5 (talk) 10:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)