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[edit] Young Frankenstein

Was there more than one version of this movie released ? The version I just saw doesn't have Frankenstein's monster toss the little girl down the well, but I distinctly recall that from before (I believed they only showed a splash of water coming up out of the well). It's not just editing, though, as an entirely different scene involving a teeter-totter seems to have been added in place. I'm guessing that it was deemed not politically correct to show tossing a child down a well in a comedy. StuRat 02:21, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe it is not uncommon to shoot different versions of a scene, just in case, because setting up the scene again (hiring the location, placing the props, getting the actors in, waiting for the same weather, etc) can be very expensive. With many different shots, it's easier to make the right selection during editing afterwards. For the same reason, it makes sense to shoot different versions when you're not sure which one you might want to use during editing. This is why you sometimes get different versions of a film, such as a director's cut. And it can also be that certain scenes are more acceptable in one country than another. Or on different stations or at different hours. Or a cinema and a tv version, such as is often done with commercials. DirkvdM 09:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Surely it was the one of the older "serious" Frankenstein movies in which the monster kills the girl. Young Frankenstein, being a comedy, substitutes launching the girl back safely into her own bed. --tcsetattr (talk / contribs) 06:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
No, I believe it was this version. Violence against women and children at one time was thought to be funny, as in "One of these days, Alice, POW, to the Moon", Ralph Kramden's constant threat to beat his wife in The Honeymooners and "Go play in the street, boy, you bother me", the quote from WC Fields. However, modern sensibilities make us no longer consider such things to be funny, which might explain why this change was made. (There are exceptions, like Homer Simpson choking Bart in just about every episode.) StuRat 12:46, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brief Encounter

A fairly recent movie,probably 2006, used ideas from 1946 movie Close Encounters. What was the name of this movie? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbirdtoo (talk • contribs) 02:22, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Quite a few films make reference to Brief Encounter, but perhaps you are thinking of Falling in Love (1984)? Otherwise can you tell us anything else about it?--Shantavira|feed me 15:08, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Generally, IMDb's movie listings have a subpage "movie connections", which lists movies that include clips of the one in question, or otherwise allude to it, as well as remakes, sequels, parodies and so on. IMDb "movie connections" for Brief Encounter. —Tamfang 19:28, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rush Hour 3 Question

Hey do you know what's the song sang by Carter at the beginning of Rush Hour 3? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.195.84 (talk) 02:54, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

"Do Me, Baby" by Prince. --Canley 03:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Introduction to classical music

Dear Sir/Madam,

Considering that I consider myself to be an absolute neophyte when it comes to classical music, has there been any box set released that encompasses the work of numerous composers to facilitate an introduction to the genre ? ­­­­

Sincerely, Matt714 16:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

It depends on how much you're willing to spend. I would recommend Masters of Classical Music, as I own that one myself. Amazon has copies as low as $25. The box set contains works by Mozart, Bach and Vivaldi, to name some and,IMO, is a great "starter kit".--Sethacus 17:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Or there's this one. --Richardrj talk email 17:27, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
And, if you're trying to interest young children in classical music, I suggest the videos Fantasia (film) and Peter and the Wolf, which will make classical music seem enjoyable, rather than like school. StuRat 12:36, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
If I were introducing young children, I'd also try things like Also sprach Zarathustra, The Planets and anything lively and dramatic, but I'd mostly put them on in the background while doing other things so the music got absorbed, rather than making a big deal about them. Fantasia is also a good way of getting someone unused to wordless music into the habit of listening, but I think this question-asker is on to a good thing with a boxset. Skittle 00:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
If you simply want to listen to classical, there are many boxed introductory sets. If you want to learn about the music as well, maybe something like Leonard Bernstein's Young People's Concerts. Rmhermen 18:02, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
A few pieces were made by composers to be an introduction to the orchestra. Britten's The Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra and Prokofiev's Peter and the Wolf are several famous examples. I especially like Peter's leitmotif in the latter. bibliomaniac15 00:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
There are (or were) collections called "Classical Music for People Who Hate Classical Music". Adam Bishop 01:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Girlfriend (Avril Lavigne song)

I'm trying to find a reliable source which references the negative reaction this song received due to it's suggesting bullying is acceptable and appropriate, especially when trying to steal someone else's partner. Googling is getting me a lot of blogs & forums but I'm looking for something better so I can add it to the article and back it up with a good source. Exxolon 19:04, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like you are trying to support a view which simply does not exist. --24.249.108.133 16:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lost (tv series)

Does anyone know the episode where Kate and Jack first kiss? Also, another question (sorry if it seems rambling and uncertain)- There was an episode where Kate and Jack were in the forest and something happened (I don't remember what- they might've kissed or something) and Kate, while crying, keeps saying she's sorry, but jack leaves? It might be the same episode where they first kiss, but I seriously can't remember. Please, any help would be appreciated! --PolarWolf ( sign ) 21:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Apparently the episode is called "What Kate Did", maybe an allusion to the book What Katy Did by Susan Coolidge. There is a clip of the kiss here on YouTube.SaundersW 11:35, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, that answers my first question. I should have been more specific about the second one, though. They were deeper in the forest than most other times and there wasn't a suitcase involved. I think that they kissed, but kate wasn't supposed to do that, or at least that what I remember. Thanks again for the other answer, tho! --PolarWolf ( sign ) 14:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, that's the exact one I've been looking for! Thank you again! :) --PolarWolf ( sign ) 02:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)