Talk:Reformation Day
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[edit] Notes
Umm, "mass" is a Catholic thing - you may wish to check to see if you are using the correct word.
Hmm. That's true though "mass" is not necessarily wrong. Perhaps "service" is better? And isn't it the "Feast of the Reformation"? Sumergocognito 00:05, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
"Mass" is correct for Lutherans - read the Augsburg Confession and its apology for your future education. And that homeschooling link is political, and is therefore being removed. --L. 15:19, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
- I was going back and forth on the question of keeping the link. An external page can be political, I think. We just need to clearly identify it as such, which I tried to do. (That's what I seem to read (different topic) in this discussion) The only argument I see for taking it out is that it was not a source to this text, right? Awolf002 15:38, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
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- On the word mass: Luther went back and forth on the use of the term, as did most of the Lutheran fathers of the first few generations. Sometimes it is used to refer to the Sacrifice of the Mass, which is roundly condemned and its abolition is urged. On the other hand, the term is retained by Luther and European Lutherans to this day as one of a series of terms used to describe the sacrament of communion. In the US, the term is not often used by Lutherans at all, except for those committed to a high view of liturgical worship. Since not all Lutherans, especially in the US, celebrate the sacrament on Reformation Day, I'd recommend the term "service." By the way, the article could use considerable adjustment. Does anyone mind if I make such adjustments. (for example, no Lutheran Church considers the day a "major" festival and, although many churches do use a lot of special music on the day, the vast majority do not "perform" A Mighty Fortress, but do sing it without exception. Most will stand in honor of those who lost their lives confessing the Christian faith as Lutherans understand it. I could say more, but... --CTSWyneken 03:56, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
- please do. Sumergocognito 22:03, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
- On the word mass: Luther went back and forth on the use of the term, as did most of the Lutheran fathers of the first few generations. Sometimes it is used to refer to the Sacrifice of the Mass, which is roundly condemned and its abolition is urged. On the other hand, the term is retained by Luther and European Lutherans to this day as one of a series of terms used to describe the sacrament of communion. In the US, the term is not often used by Lutherans at all, except for those committed to a high view of liturgical worship. Since not all Lutherans, especially in the US, celebrate the sacrament on Reformation Day, I'd recommend the term "service." By the way, the article could use considerable adjustment. Does anyone mind if I make such adjustments. (for example, no Lutheran Church considers the day a "major" festival and, although many churches do use a lot of special music on the day, the vast majority do not "perform" A Mighty Fortress, but do sing it without exception. Most will stand in honor of those who lost their lives confessing the Christian faith as Lutherans understand it. I could say more, but... --CTSWyneken 03:56, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
I've made some substantial adjustments. Feel free to tweak it, add to it, etc. --CTSWyneken 02:24, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] ...and his ???allies????
I think that allies is a totally inappropriate word! Just a few sentences earlier, this article reads "This was not an act of defiance or provocation as is sometimes thought." However, the use of the word "allies" later connotates that Luther was waging some type of religious war. I believe the more correct word here is "supporters."
--Dwspig2 23:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Satanic associations
"Many families in the Reformed tradition do not allow their children to observe Halloween on the grounds of various satanic associations."
Could this be more neutral? The so-called 'satanic associations' of Halloween are the stuff of urban legend, not fact.
- Well, not so much "urban legend" as some peoples' religious beliefs. (Razor blades in apples are urban legend.) Anyway, I've changed it to "perceived Satanic associations" and added a link to the section in the Halloween article where it's discussed. —Angr 06:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
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- This article is not about Halloween! Why is this detail needed here and is placed in the starting paragraph? This should be cut, and all we need is the link to Halloween in the previous sentence. Awolf002 23:33, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Anabaptists Born From Reformation??
The Anabaptists did not spring forth from the Reformation, but predate the Reformation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.26.18.201 (talk • contribs) 31 October 2006
- I suppose it depends on your definition. According to the article Anabaptist, the term is usually applied to Mennonites, Amish, and Hutterites, groups that did arise from the Reformation, but there were also pre-Reformation forerunners. —Angr 20:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Standing
I'm a little confused by the attachment of a meaning to the practice of standing during the hymn. One generally stands for hymns anyway. Carolynparrishfan 20:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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