Talk:Reform of the United Nations

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[edit] Security Council reform article

I am considering starting an article devoted to Security Council reform. My main concern is that content on UN Security Council and Reform of the United Nations will overlap, requiring people to update both pages to keep up with the news. This way, we could put a link to the Main article: Reform of the UN Security Council on both pages, and just update that main article as news breaks. However, we could end up updating all three. Hmm. Rad Racer 15:13, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Whose opinion?

"For the UN to become more democratic in a direct sense, four things would presumably have to happen:..."

Whose opinion is this? Is this just a personal opinon of the editor, or based on some official documents of any country or organization? World3 24 Apr 2005

  • I noticed that too. It was odd espescially considering number 3 didn't seem to have anything to do with being more democratic. Jimbobsween 04:26, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
    • Probably the former. 24.54.208.177 03:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
      • I would like to see this changed, to be honest. If we can find a quote for it, fine, otherwise I find some parts aren't really focusing on the idea of democracy as a whole, but one person's idea democracy. Personally - no offense intended to the voting structure of the US - number one is ONE idea of how democracy should be formed, and democracy by population instead of state isn't necessarily "more democratic". What I'm trying to get at is... I don't think this should be a part of this topic. At least, not unless its a quote of a particular UN representative's ideas on reform. Alphamatrix 22:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Something I read from a site

"I studied the issue of possible UNSC reform when I wrote my Law Honours thesis, and I read some material in int'l law articles re proposals to intro major permanent regional power seats for Africa, Asia and Latin America which were to be alternated every few yrs- ie African seat between Nigeria, Egypt and SA, Asian between India, Indonesia and Pakistan, Latin American- Brazil and Argentina. Also, there've been discussions thruout the yrs to increase the SC's size to anything up to 20-25 above the current 15. Of course, whether any of this proposed change happens is very open to question, given the dinosaurically slow nature of any reforms actually occurring in such a cumbersome bureaucracy."

Anyone know anything about this?

  • Definitey, Plans A and B from Kofi Annan's ideas on UNSC reform include increasing UNSC membership to 24, but that's been included now in the UNSC reform page, I think. Alphamatrix 22:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The position of Italy

I have edited the sentence regarding Italy, and thus removed refers to the source (a reuters article), because the information is untrue. Italy does not oppose Germany, but the whole reform, based on the introduction of new permanent seats, and so of new privileges. Semi-permanent membership, which means that countries from the same region alternate themselves in the council every few years, would result in a more democratic and plural reform.

[edit] the reforms discussed seem unrelated to the problems?

The problems of the UN are corruption and the lack of accountability and transparency that allows it to occur. How can the measures discussed in this article be "reforms", if they don't address the problems. Perhaps this article should be be "Proposed changes to the United nations".

[edit] Cold war

What is the "Role of United Nations Security Concil in Cold War"? what is thw impact of the "UN Security Concil in Cold war" ?

[edit] What countries are part of the UN?

What countries are part of the UN? --CyclePat 20:28, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Your kidding right? Jcdams 21:40, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
In case your question *was* serious, check out United Nations member states and list of unrecognized countries. —Nightstallion (?) 15:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Section on Democratization

In reading through this article, the section on "democratization" and "improving diversity" seems not so much to address reforms currently being considered for the UN reform, but a what a UN that would function more as a "world government" might look like. Some bits have certainly been discussed (mainly proportional voting and elimination of the veto) as serious revisions of the GA or SC, but the bits talking about "world government" seem to fall a bit beyond the scope of this article. I thought I would see if there are any comments/objecftions to this change before I removed some of this and cleaned up that section. Auric04 19:00, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

Is anyone willing to help me verify the information in this topic? I'd like to see some citations in the article, and check that the information is creditable, not just opinion. Alphamatrix 22:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Democratization Reform Proposal

I would like to propose the following concept for reform (or replacement) of the United Nations:

www.UnitedDemocraticNations.org

I am posting it here for two distinct purposes, first to pose it as a possible inclusion on the article page, second to elicit feedback.

gary —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.86.193.170 (talk) 19:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC).