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[edit] Replaceable fair use Image:Gerard_McMahon_.jpg

Replaceable fair use

Thanks for uploading Image:Gerard_McMahon_.jpg. I noticed the description page specifies that the media is being used under a claim of fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first non-free content criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed media could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this media is not replaceable, please:

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Sorry, I'm new to all this and I confess I really don't understand. I want to put a photo of the artist on the page I have created. I thought I was doing right because I asked permission of the artist, told him what I wans doing and got sent this pic by his manager. Its a promo pic. I don't want to hassle them with legalities, insist they provide signed documentation, etc. I have access to various resources through doing extensive research, so could you please just tell me the simplest way of going about this so I can establish where I can get image from to use on this page. Thank you.
 ♫ Яєdxx ♪♫♪♫♪Talk 09:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for trying to get a picture on there. The problem is, it's not enough to have permission to use a copyrighted picture on Wikipedia. Rather, the picture has to be released to the public domain, or under a type of "free" license. In other words, you need permission to use it just about anywhere. There are more details at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. This is because Wikipedia wants to make sure other people can copy its content and use it in other ways. Another way to get a picture of an artist on a website is to take a picture of him or her yourself, and then release it under a free license yourself. It is indeed all rather complicated, so thanks for being patient. --Allen (talk) 18:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
You may find WP:COPYREQ helpful in how to ask people for a license for an image and what to do with the email permission if it is received. The standard boilerplate release on the page is all they really need to fill out and email. And yes, it really does work. MECU≈talk 19:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for making Gerard McMahon page

Good job making a page for Gerard McMahon. That was way overdue. I'd been meaning to do it for years and just never got around to it. (Sorry I had to delete the lyrics, though... we can't have them on there for copyright reasons.) --Allen (talk) 18:11, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I also deleted a reference to yourself as the author of the article... in my edit summary I mentioned WP:SELF, but then I realized that was wrong; WP:SELF doesn't say anything explicitly about not referring to article authors in articles. In fact, I'm not sure where to point you about that, but I am pretty sure we can't do it. --Allen (talk) 18:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your encouraging comments. I understand about making reference to myself as author. I just typed it, but I admit I thought better of it afterwards.
I was also half expecting lyrics wouldn't be accepted on here (shame), but if I got Gerard's manager (with whom I am in contact) to provide me with the GL licence thingy, could I post them then? I know they gave permission (probably informally) to someone to post them on YouTube. Also, I edit on LyricWiki. If I can post them there, why not here? There are also 100's of sites on the internet posting lyrics, so...?
I also saw a few notes amongst the edits for this page about 'unsourced' Whilst this did not result in the article being flagged (tho I would be interested to know why it didn't - lol), it did make me think more about this and further, that maybe this is something I should perhaps address. I guess the reason I didn't include more sources was because I am one of those that finds lots of 1, 2, 3, and 4's all over the page a bit tiresome and makes the page a little unreadable.
I'm unsure whether the picture is going to remain. I hope so, for I think it really adds interest to the page.
 ♫ Яєdxx ♪♫♪♫♪Talk 01:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, yes, if Gerard's people release his lyrics on GFDL (is that what you meant?) then you could post them here. If you can really do that, my hat is off to you. I don't know your connections, but if you didn't have a special in with Gerard, I would say don't hold your breath. They would be giving up forever their ability to make money exclusively on those lyrics. If they did that, and then I published a book of poetry that included those lyrics (properly sourced, of course), and the book made a billion dollars, they wouldn't get a penny of that, as I understand it. Not that lyrics often make a lot of money independently of their songs, but still, musicians' managers seem to like to maintain full control over them. Lyric sites that don't make a lot of money fall into a gray area of copyright law as far as I can tell; I've heard people make conflicting arguments about their legal status.
As for the unsourced thing, you should read WP:V, but here's how it works in my understanding: Eventually, everything on Wikipedia should be sourced. Right now, not everything is sourced, and that's okay, but... anyone can remove anything that's not sourced. If it's something bad about a living person, they can, and should, remove it right away. If it's benign, it's considered polite to flag it first (individual facts or whole pages can be flagged), then wait a few days, then remove it. But even benign unsourced things can be removed right away if someone wants to. The more something sounds like it's probably true and like it could be sourced, the more likely people are to let it stay for now.
Hope that helps! --Allen (talk) 03:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, indeed it does. Many thanks for your informative response.  ♫ Яєdxx ♪♫♪♫♪Talk 07:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References

Could someone please give me some indication as to the extent of references needed within an article, since I seem to have rather a lot...Gerard McMahon Thanks  ♫ Яєdxx ♪♫♪♫♪Talk 00:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

  • As broad a scope as you can find is best. Most of the refs in Gerald McMahon seem to be All Music Guide and IMDb. I would suggest searching for anything you think is a reliable source -- online, print sources, whatever you can find. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 00:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you..but do you think I've got toooo many? If so exactly what do I NEED to reference, and what don't I? ♫ Яєdxx ♪♫♪♫♪Talk 00:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes Thank you! ♫ Яєdxx ♪♫♪♫♪Talk 18:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cry Little Sister

Just a heads up, I responded to your comments at Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests/Archive 18#Active disagreement. Thanks. Equazcion •✗/C • 06:20, 29 Apr 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I will edit the page again when I have a bit more time.  ♫ Яєdxx ♪♫♪♫♪Talk 11:29, 6 May 2008 (UTC)