Talk:Redshirts (Italy)

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Could we go into more detail about who were the people of the i Mille, instead of the origin and nature of their shirts?

I Mille is currently a redirect here. It's just waiting for this very information, mentioning Redshirts just in passing. A good biography of Garibaldi would give some starting points. Anyone? --Wetman 21:07, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Red Shirt Movement 2 Trek's redshirts 3 Guards of NY 4 Mysterious remark 5 The Federal Red 6 On Fascism

[edit] Red Shirt Movement

Wikipedia:2004 Encyclopedia topics/22 lists a similarly named title called Red Shirt Movement but appears to be on a completley different topic. Does anyone know the differences between the two? NSR 29 June 2005 22:40 (UTC)

[edit] Trek's redshirts

Perhaps a article in three parts? SEctions?

You can't be serious, can you? It's not like ship's security wore red in homage to Garibaldi, any more than RCMP or British infantry did. Trekphiler 00:09, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guards of NY

I altered the "of the 39h"; the Garibaldi Guard was the com ID of the entire outfit, N just part of it, as "of" implied. Trekphiler 00:10, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mysterious remark

"A rather famous picture of Captain Charles Schwab shows him wearing a red woolen, undecorated shirt with a left breast pocket." Not apparently famous enough to turn up in googling Charles Schwab on image mode. If you can dab this and make it relevant, by all means put it back in the article. --Wetman 04:22, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Federal Red

"What about the red color used by 'federales' faction in internals wars of Argentina and Ururguay?. I don't know your origin with precision but is related at the foundation of 'La Liga de los Pueblos Libres' by Gervasio Artigas (circa 1820). Yours flags (exits some variations) had in common the colour 'rojo (red) punzó'. Yet today is an oficial flag in Uruguay and argentinian provinces".--Visitor 01:10, 04 agost 2007 (arg)

And what about the blue color? See Liga Federal. --Wetman 05:53, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Wetman, are you rigth. Parcially. Let me explain. Searching about colors, i'm found that the 'celeste'(sky blue) was used by 'unitarios', the other faction in this wars. Well, Garibaldi fight by side of uruguyans unitarios but .. they used red color !(and not 'celeste'like argentinian unitarios). In spanish rojo (red) is also 'colorado' (that's the name the unitarios adopted and still today are named in Uruguay). So may be Garibaldi don't was a 'federal' after all but yet can used red color by political reasons. Something else may be interesting for you. If you visit http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagen:Bandera_calabreses_de_garibaldi.png you can see the flag used by the "Italian Legion" (Garibaldi's men) in Montevideo's defense. Well, it's a green volcano, erupting red fire in black background. Some people see in this the origin of use red-black in revolutionaries flags : 'red shirts' with a black flag .(Ok, you can ask, then what about the green?. Good cuestion!).--Visitor 22:58, 06 agost 2007 (arg)

[edit] On Fascism

It states in this article "nothing to do with any proto-Fascist ideology; Garibaldi himself was a well known socialist, and his men were patriots of different political leanings, banded together in the name of national freedom and unity." Fascism is in its undiluted, uncorrupted form exactly that. Socialist who beleive in Nationalism and Unity. Yes fascism was subverted by totalatarism and turned from its initial aims but such is true of any ideology, but to say that Garibaldi had nothing to do with Fascism or Fascist ideology and then go on and define fascism to the crossed t is madness. Italian Fascism and by extention all Fascism was heavily based on the Nationalist and Socialist movements of the C19th of which Garibaldi's Influence, especially in Italy, cannot be denied. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.150.123.69 (talk) 18:32, August 25, 2007 (UTC)