Talk:Red Hulk

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[edit] merge.

This article is very light on actual real world content. Editors seem intent on including speculation about the character's identity, and on writing an overly long plot summary which substitues for issues missed by readers. Instead, this article should be considered for returnign to a redirect to the main Hulk article. ThuranX (talk) 04:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

The reason the Red Hulk was taken out of Hulk (comics) is because people were placing unwarranted speculation in that article (see this edit where i removed said speculation from Hulk's article)... this article is only a holding place anyway as in two/three months this hulk's real identity will be revealed and this article will be merged.. this was previously a redirect page that got changed every time somebody suspected some one else was this hulk.. i suggest we leave this information here to save people cluttering Hulks article and wait until his true identity is revealed.. plus Red Hulk isnt Bruce Banner or The Hulk so to redirect there would be wrong and confusing to occasional readers. --- Paulley (talk) 08:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I understand you concern for speculation regarding the character and that is something as editors here we have to keep and eye on and remove. --- Paulley (talk) 08:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

First, the page was not repeatedly moved and edited. It was a stable redirect for a long time before you edited it into a highly speculative article; most of what I keep cutting out of here's being added by you. The reality is that this entire article could be distilled down to one paragraph in the other article, and in fact, that was how it was being handled. Remember that emphasis should still be on real world content, not in-universe plotlines. ThuranX (talk) 11:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

The redirect was pointed to Rick Jones for over a month with no justification what so ever until it was pointed to hulk after issue two where Jones was revealed to be A-Bomb. After i created a quick stub article by removing much of the speculation for multiple paragraphs in the hulk article, you came and removed what you considered to be OR and publisher promoted information, which after looking at the edits i agreed with (i did not run back here and revert you or anything did i?)... afterward User_talk:67.180.225.161 added more speculation which you reverted and i agree with your decision to do so. There are several referenced real world elements regarding characterization and publication history, and yes i agree the powers and ability section need to be changed from its in-universe style while the fictional biography (well the title states its fictional but i could be changed also) is considerably condensed. When i came to Hulk article i was greeted with this [1] if i thought it was being well handled i would not have bothered to write this stub. --- Paulley (talk) 13:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

To be clear, I do note that you are working co-operatively, and I'm not picking on you personally in that regard. As for the Hulk diff you link to, I respond with this. I have been trying to give material a little time to coalesce on the Hulk page before reverting stuff out, lest I be too readily accused of WP:OWN violations. I pulled out the spec when it became clear that no improvements were readily forthcoming. A bit of patience being worth it. I'm willing to give this a little time, but if this storyline resolves soon, I really think this should redirect to the appropriate section of the main article. ThuranX (talk) 20:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

As soon as it the storyline is resolved this paged will be merged with the result, of that we can be assured no matter what the outcome. I never thought any differently on the subject. I just thought it would be easier to managed and source information regarding Red Hulk in a place that steers it clear of Bruce Banner and his Hulk. When the character is revealed the information here should be a lot easier to transfer over into that characters relevant sections. --- Paulley (talk) 20:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)