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[edit] Penis Enlarger?

There are rumours it grows the penis. Should put in article? More important - is ture?

What are you, some kind of twit? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.89.240.102 (talk) 09:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Nope!--86.29.249.177 (talk) 18:43, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Weird taste

Red Bull has the taste of mixed berries and some find it very unpleasant. Hoopstars find the drink delicious and revitalizing. (Hoopstar has nothing to do with basketball) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.35.7.134 (talk) 01:19, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Caffeine levels

This article states correctly that an 8.2oz serving of Red Bull contains about 80mg of caffeine. However, it says that this can be as much caffeine as two cups of coffee, which is false. In an 8oz cup of coffee there is either 115-175 mg of caffeine or 80-135 mg of caffeine, depending on whether it is drip or brewed respectively.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/caffeine-faq/

http://wilstar.com/caffeine.htm

--Wjc146 14:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I started to correct the article when I spotted a typographical mistake. Then I found the article have gone to the other side, stating that the beverage has less caffeine than a cup of coffee. I live in Colombia, a coffee growing country so, out of curiosity, I read the articles on Cup (unit) and coffee. I found the article on coffee mentions 180 ml cup as the standard U.S. measure for serving brewed coffee, similar to the standard cup we use in Colombia, and less than the serving measure mentioned in the article. So, I corrected the article, stating that coffee and Red Bull have similar levels of caffeine: it depends on the size of servings. If you serve yourself a large cup (250 ml), you have more caffeine than in a Red Bull can. If you drink a regular cup (180 ml) you get less caffeine than drinking Red Bull. It also depends on what kind of coffe you get: an espresso has 40 mg of caffeine, for example, because of its size. It would be the same for a cup of coffe and milk: you'd get half the caffeine you get from a can of the Red Bull, which I imagine is the origin of the statement corrected by Wjc146 (that a cup of coffee has half the caffeine content of Red Bull: it's true if you talk about coffee mixed with milk). Figures for instant coffee go from 65 to 100 mg, compared with 80 mg for a can of this beverage. In the end, you conclude the caffeine content of Red Bull is similar to that of mild coffee, per unit volume.--Ciroa 09:10, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image on bottle

I doubt that the image shows a canadian red bull bottle. It has thai language all over the place. I bought a simmilar bottle in an asian shop in Vienna.

No, it certainly doesn't look Canadian to me. I noticed that when the image was first added, but I figured, hell, what do I know? Everyking 23:33, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
That is what I thought, too. Then, to my surprise, I saw it at a small corner store here in Vancouver. I wouldn't have noticed it if it wasn't for the picture I saw posted here in Wikipedia. 5 March 2005
I got that bottle in Vancouver, BC on a trip I took about 2 years ago. It came from New Amsterdam Cafe or one of the others right next to it. Triddle 17:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

But does the stuff work?? and what, really are the health risks?

Taurin is addictive, but as an overdose of Red Bull -- ESPECIALLY on an empty stomach -- causes nausea before the neccessary concentration is reached, you'll probably throw up before you get addicted.
The caffein can probably cause poisoning if you overdose, too.
Generally, I wouldn't recommend drinking it like water. If nothing else, it'll make you feel pretty awful (no, I can't verify this with numbers, I'm talking from personal experience and observations). -- Ashmodai 14:12, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
No, no, no! "Does the stuff work" = does it do what it's advertized to? Let me make this a section:

[edit] Does Red Bull Work As Advertised????

{{db|:^ Is this guy serious? Nonsence? Prattel?}}--86.25.49.98 (talk) 13:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Red Bull advertises with the tagline "Red Bull gives you wings". I'd like to know whether this is true, and, if it isn't, whether the article should reflect this. The article on wings says "A wing is an appendage used for flight by an animal or an apparatus used to create lift in aeronautics" and I think the tagline applies to the "appendage" part. So, is it true? Do you get such an appendage from Red Bull?

^ Is this guy serious?

Ahem. Red Bull is an energy drink. The wings are a metaphor for energy (think Mercury, the messanger god).

                                                                           ^no think Prometheus, whos father made him wings which used to steal the gods' power. bone up on your allusion -Eric   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.254.204 (talk) 03:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

no. I drink it. I got wings. real fluffy feathery wings. they don't fit well with my regular clothes. I had to cut holes in them for the wings. but I got wings, like a lot of other folks too. we can fly, can you ?

Guys the original person was obviously joking I hope. Dappled Sage 19:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I drink roughly eight a day, and no, I do not have wings. I do, however, have a mild heart arrhythmia and a fantastically inflated sense of well-being. I often wonder if I am God. And then I black out. benXdeath 19:47, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Hai guyz this is serious cause if redbull doesnt give you wings then that is like false advertising amirite?

Perhaps the over consumption effects your abillity to comprehend information as every advirtisement I Have seen refers to "RED Bull gives you wiings", not wings as previously mentioned. False Advertising...Cmon now people...DWS

It says Wiiings not wings. That takes away the literal meaning of wings... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.2.247.31 (talk) 12:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Not false advertising as is 'mere puff'. 78.105.143.73 (talk) 17:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it does as advertised. The same way that Crest will make stars fly out of your mouth every time you use it. Pssh. The OP could only have been joking. Qaddosh|contribstalk 03:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Its not Canadian / American red bull

It is the thai version of red bull, the original.

- see [1] for pictures of Austrian Red Bull from several countries as well as Thai and Chinese red bull.

  • The thai version is non carbonated and also comes in a gold colored can.

-Both images of Red Bull in a brown bottle are Thai. I have duplicates of both (in my energy drink collection) that I picked up in Bangkok. I also have Red Bull in other packaging from Viet Nam and China, none of which appear to be manufactured by the Austrian company. Given that Asia is rife with knock-offs, it's hard to say which was made by what company (particularly because I can't read Thai, and can read very little Chinese). My experience, however, is that the Austrian company always markets their product in the same can, so any other packaging is from a different company (the Canadian stuff is made by the Austrian company btw). Check out www.redbull.com.cn for the Chinese version.

[edit] Thai version

In Singapore, The thai uncarbonated formuala is marketed as Red Bull Classic, in a Gold canned packaging.(Similar to Redbull Kratingdaeng) There is also Red Bull Singapore's Choice which is a low sugar version. Both are manufactured in Thailand by T.C. Pharmaceutical. -Dodo bird 06:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Article which touched on the red bull ban

[edit] where does the name come from?

red bull has taurine in it, which was originally discovered in the liver of oxen, and is named after the animal (taurus)... could this be where red bull (or the original thai drink) gets its name from?

The "red bull" name is an english transation of orignal Thai brand "kra-ting-dang". "Kra-ting" means a bull and "dang" means red.

[edit] Effects

While the article says "people who consume the beverage in excess (more than 2.5 250ml cans in a 24-hour period) have been known to express discomfort, such as nausea, stomach pains, gas, and/or sleeplessness.", I've drunk 14 cans of Red Bull in 3 hours, with no noticable effect other than the usual twitchiness that normally comes after a lot of coffee.

Is it possible that any random group of tired overworked truck drivers exhibit nausea, stomach pains and sleepiness when they drink pop, and that it's not necessarily relevant to Red Bull just beacuse that was what they happened to be drinking? Ojw 19:30, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

I suggest you quote results given in abstracts from PubMed (MEDLINE) discussing the effects. Jclerman 23:37, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

My science teacher said that her son drank abotu 2 cans then played football. After the game was over, he said his heart was beating so fast out there that he nearly had a heart attack. Red Bull and exercise don't mix. But she also said one of the ingredients was taken from the bull's anal gland.

  • Well, your science teacher has just taught you some incorrect BS. Get it? Speciate 03:20, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image at bottom

Is that image at the bottom really necessary? Perhaps if it were just a picture of Red Bull products it wouldn't seem so out of place, but there are cans of SoBe Adrenaline Rush, Rockstar Cola, Blue Bear, and other drinks not manufactured by the same company. That image would be more appropriate in the Energy drink article, would it not? --Inditalk 14:04, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Only 56 Milligrams of Glucuronolactone?

It appears that Men's Fitness magazine sent some Red Bull to a lab to be analyzed and found that there were only 56 milligrams of glucuronolactone in a can (rather than 600 mg): http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1608/is_9_17/ai_80309795

There was a story in the uk a while ago of a man who was a designated driver and so was drinking red bull throughout the night and had a huge sugar rush and crashed his car killing himself and his freinds. Also i have been told that drinking 6 cans of red bull will give you the same affects as taking speed.If this is true or not is another thing

For what it's worth, I doubt very very seriously that either of these last two "facts" is true, given that Red Bull isn't especially sugary (compared to your average consumable product), nor does it contain anything that could have a "speed-like" effect. --SuperNova |T|C| 22:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taurine isn't a protein

The article states that taurine is "a protein naturally produced by the human body." This is definitely NOT the case. While taurine is naturally produced by many animals, including humans, it is an aminosulfonic acid and not a protein. This confusion may come from the fact that taurine is made by oxidation and decarboxylation of cysteine. Cysteine is an amino acid, one of the building blocks of proteins, but not a protein itself. 24.68.127.167 22:26, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. I have removed the sentence. --Dodo bird 07:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Sun May 7, 2006 at 20:16 on Nicolas Reyes St. , Manila,Metro Manila,Philippines. Was inside The Araneta Coliseum,Quezon City,Metro Manila,Philippines and watched Red Bull win 84 pts vs. Talk'n Text 81 pts.

[edit] The share

Hm.. Ok I edited this one back to 51% according to Forbes [2] (father 49% son 2%) But in Economist [3] , the father owned 49% and the remaining 2% is trust.

I'm confused Suredeath 00:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red bull name, prior use as the name of a drink

I was just listening to a short story on the radio which was set some time in the past in (i think) England and it mentioned a drink called red bull (possibly as a kind of alcoholic drink or maybe cocktail, couldn't quite tell from the context). Anyway i have no idea, just thought i should add it here in case anyone else knows anything or wants to look futher into it. For anyone who cares the story was on the book reading on the 24/05/06 on radio national (ABC radio). Anyways don't think the info is good enough to put in the article yet but a bit of rummaging around might turn something up. The bellman 13:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese version

7-11 of Japan recently (approximately April 2006) started carrying Red Bull. It tastes very similar but it feels like it has a lot less "kick" than the United States version. Looking closely, it looks like taurine has been dropped or replaced by arginine.

[edit] Beer

Red bull's can looks like a beer can.67.188.172.165 22:36, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not quite sure where you get that idea since beer cans look like soda cans, which are short and fat compaired to the tall and skinny red bull cans, sure they have the same basic shape but the dimenions make then hard to mistake--66.210.54.83 17:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I see 67.188.172.165's point. 0.5L Beer cans tend be be taller than their normal soda can counterparts, like red bull, although beer cans are of the same width as a say, a coke can. In any case the dimensions of all three are quite different. --Burbster 17:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I have the 250mm and 355mm UK can and both are skinny ones.--86.29.249.177 (talk) 18:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thai Red Bull

Does Thai Red Bull have speed in it? (12 August 2006)


Yes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJJimbo196 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

No, in some thai restaurants in the u.s. you can order thai red bull. I've done so myself. I doesn't taste much different. Obviously speed, which is an illegal drug, would not be served in legal restaurants. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.224.206.239 (talk) 20:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Annoyingly Businessy Language

The phrase "big players" doesn't sound like an encyclopedia's writing style.

[edit] "Red Bull Gives You Wings"

In every Red Bull commercial we now hear a voiceover saying something like, "Well, actually, Red Bull...[does this]" or "Don't expect to grow wings and fly...", and I was wondering if Red Bull had some legal problems with the "Gives You Wings" slogan on its own, probably from retarded kids jumping off cliffs after drinking a Red Bull and expecting to fly, or something along that. I haven't heard anything like that but I would naturally assume that might be the case, since the clarification voiceover obviously wasn't in any of the commercials a while ago. Unless they just decided they'd better insert that to prevent future problems. If anyone knows anything about this and it's worthy of mentioning, it would be nice to see something about it on this page. Conquerer 21:32, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of Red Bull giving you wings...I had just seen an add that went the other way around which had said "No Red Bull, No Wings", would that be usefull to add onto the slogan area or anything like that? Captain Drake Van Hellsing 08:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Red_Bull#Does_Red_Bull_Work_As_Advertised.3F.3F.3F.3F
People apparently really do think it's literal.
God, I hate idiots.

[edit] backpacking?

why does redbull link to the back packing cati? backpacking is not at all brought up in the article, aned the only thing redbull has to tdo with back packing is that it is one of the things you shouldn't drink while back packing

Except that it is a scientifically proven fact that every third person (at least) that you meet while backpacking will be wearing a Thai Red Bull (กระทิงแดง) T-shirt. 143.252.80.100 16:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taurine is Great for Old People

Taurine is normally made in the liver, in all but infants and in some old people. It is a "conditional" amino acid. In old people that do not make sufficient taurine, their energy levels will be low to extremely low and they may have cardiac rhythm problems (see http://george-eby-research.com/html/taurine.html). Supplementing taurine (up to 10 or more grams a day) will restore energy in those old people to more youthful levels and very greatly improve the quality of their lives, giving them back the energy of their youth. Taurine deficiencies in young people are rare, but if they don't make adequate taurine they will respond to taurine too. Taurine is NOT a stimulant, rather it is also an inhibitory neurotransmitter, involved in protecting the brain's handling of toxins, such as excessive glutamate and relaxation of the brain and heart.

[edit] Are you people actually reading what you are writing???

Under Marketing, the 3rd "paragraph"

Since the initial viral parties, Red Bull's efforts have included sponsoring extreme sport events....and owning two Formula One teams, Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso ('Team Red Bull' translated in Italian). The team previously sponsored the Sauber and Arrows Formula One teams the Red Bull Cheever Racing Team in the IRL, and in 2007 will sponsor a Toyota in NASCAR's Nextel Cup, where they are also a personal sponsor to Robby Gordon. Also R....

And then, the VERY NEXT PARAGRAPH!!!!!!!

They have since extended their presence to purchasing and entirely re-branding a number of sports teams. These teams include the Red Bull Racing (previously Jaguar) and Scuderia Toro Rosso (Italian for Red Bull Team) (previously Minardi) Formula One teams.... Red Bull also has sponsored various racing drivers including NASCAR driver Robby Gordon an... Red Bull is sponsoring two new NASCAR teams under 2007; racing under the new Toyota Camry label.

Are you people actually reading the wiki before you edit it, or what?

[edit] Red Bull Clothing

"METs and sponsored athletes are the only people (technically) allowed to sport the Red Bull logo on their clothing." - I've removed this - it's rubbish! Red Bull Racing sell a whole bunch of merchandise with Red Bull logo on including jackets, caps and shirts which anyone who buys can wear. Alexj2002 09:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I drank it and flew away!!!!

RUNNING AROUND IN YOUR UNDERWEAR on mars is considered illegal in Austria. But, personally, if you try that, you'll die because of no helmet. Trust me...im a zombie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.244.78 (talk) 18:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Red vs Blue

Someone should write a bit on how Red Bull is constantly bagged in Red vs. Blue -203.45.17.94 04:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Probably not. It was lampooned twice, which isn't that much over the course of four seasons and change. The reference would better belong, if anywhere, somewhere in the Red vs. Blue articles. But there's no real evidence that it's truly a running gag. — TKD::Talk 03:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Download" imitator

I removed this from the "imitators" section

"A drink known as Download is reported to taste exactly like Red Bull."

as the only reference I can find to this drink reports the opposite. [4] --Heycos 23:28, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Red Rooster is a near coppy to. Blue lightnig's packet is similar to.--86.29.249.177 (talk) 18:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My pics of the golden cans

I posted the two pics of the Thai can that's available in Australia. I think it answers some previous queries. The nutritional infomation attached to the can is mandatory under Australian law for manufactured foodstuffs. Htra0497 20:53, 6 December 2006 (AEST)

[edit] Red Bull versus Krating Daeng

The current article doesn't give enough credit to the fact that this is essentially a Thai drink. While it is true that an Austrian-based company is marketing the drink in many countries, it is inaccurate to suggest that this is an 'Austrian carbonated soft drink' that was developed by Dietrich Mateschitz. Here are some of the facts: Krating Daeng has been sold in Thailand since the 1960's; in the late 80's, the rights to market the drink in Europe and the USA were licensed to the Austrian company; the name Red Bull is simply a translation of the original name, Krating Daeng; the Red Bull logo is the same as the Krating Daeng logo; the recipe is almost the same (the Thai version is sweeter); in Thailand and other parts of Asia (and - it seems - in Australia) the original version of the drink continues to be marketed by T.C. Pharmaceutical Industries Co [5]); and most of the pictures shown in the wikipedia article are of Krating Daeng, not Red Bull! I suggest some editing is needed to create a more balanced article. APB-CMX 14:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

the whole article is a mess, Red Bull and Krating Daeng are treated as almost equal in this article although they are two totally different companies.

- The original Red Bull Krating Daeng was from Thailand and still exists in that form and never has been very successful outside Thailand.

- The other brand is the Austrian Red Bull which is the number one Energy Drink around the world. It was founded by an Austrian in Austria and has nothing to do with Thailand other than a Thai is holding a big share of the company and the taste is simelar to the thai Krating Daeng.

It's not just that an Austrian happened to licencse the Krating Daeng for other markets its is a completely different drink. Everything that Red Bull is today was created by an Austrian without Mateschitz no one would even know about Red Bull outside Thailand

That is wrong on so many level. Follow the link given in the origin section. The founder of Austrian Red Bull did indeed adapted the brand and the formula from Thailand. Krating Daeng furthermore is incredibly popular in Southeast Asia. Red Bull AND Krating Daeng Trademark still belong to a Thai firm.Suredeath 14:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Red Bull & Vodka

In the section titled Mixed Drinks, it says that Red Bull mixed with vodka was first created by Parker Hallam in Dallas, Texas, at a bar called Soul II Soul located on Lower Greenville. There is no reference to support this assertion (in fact it almost feels like an advertisement for a bar) so I'll add a [citation needed] to the statement. D1lux 15:31, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Although many people attribute the Red Bull and Vodka mixture to Parker Hallam, he did not invent the drink, but a Hans Vollers of Whittier, California who moved to Dallas is the actual creator. Parker and Hans meet in Lower Greenville as bar tenders and began to mix Vodka with many different mixers. Hans was the first to use Red Bull, using an extra can that he had with him from his workout. Parker then made this drink popular after Hans left the serving industry.

[edit] Red Bull Can Image

I find it hilarious that there isn't one image of the traditional (western) can on the whole page.

Anyone interested in uploading one or two? James Pinnell 17:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I've uploaded one. See the gallery at the bottom of the article. --Mark PEA (talk) 15:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Although many people attribute the Red Bull and Vodka mixture to Parker Hallam, he did not invent the drink, but a Hans Vollers of Whittier, California who moved to Dallas is the actual creator. Parker and Hans meet in Lower Greenville as bar tenders and began to mix Vodka with many different mixers. Hans was the first to use Red Bull, using an extra can that he had with him from his workout. Parker then made this drink popular after Hans left the serving industry.

[edit] Trivia

Red Bull will glow a yellow colour under a black light.

What on earth is a 'black light'? VikasGorur 14:41, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Who the hell is John F. Kennedy? Back to the Future
Someone has now fixed this! I have removed the cite sources tag from the section as sources are only required for items that can be challenged. Most of the items are not challengeable or inherently specify their source (eg TV references). If a specific item requires a source, that item should be tagged with {{fact}}. Halsteadk 16:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! I guess that solves the Red Bull & Vodka issue I had posted earlier. By the way a black light is another name for a UV lamp (see Ultraviolet and black light for more info). D1lux 19:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is this article about the drink or the company?

It's not obvious. The info box a tthe top is titled Red Bull GmbH and contains info about the business, but the rest of the article focuses on the drink. Maybe a new article is needed, with marketing, distribution and other business stuff kept separate from the things which relate directly to the drink.Spute 20:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. D3av 06:43, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Honest, this should be about the drinks. The only thing out of place in the article is the info box of Red Bull GmBasdfdhSuredeath 09:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
For now, I moved the marketing cruft toward the bottom. Facts first, salespitches second. -Anon

I have made a page for Red Bull GmbH. I will let it percolate for a bit, then obliterate the corporate stuff from the drink's page. Speciate 23:51, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Health risks again

Man's heart stops after Red Bull overdose - an article from the Sydney Morning Herald, about the risks of Red Bull. Incorporate into the article? Qwerty (talk) 11:14, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Eight red bulls is about 6 cups of coffee. He is a smoker, he was participating in a motorcross event, he is still alive, and he had 8 red bulls in five hours. So did his heart go into defib because of the drink? For these reasons I think the story is BS. Speciate 23:57, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
What happen to someone who drinks 8 bottle of water in five hours ? Nothing, except he will have to pee. I think concerns about RB shouldn't be ignored like that. "Dr Malcolm Barlow, a cardiologist who treated Mr Penbross at Newcastle's John Hunter Hospital, said it appeared excessive consumption of energy drinks had precipitated the heart attack." Isn't it a little bit obvious ? panmon 16:56, 29 february 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.203.51.18 (talk)

Taste differences between Thai red bull and American Red Bull.

Thai red bull is sweeter and non carbonated. Thats all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.103.48.146 (talk) 03:53, August 20, 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like rubbish to me. Its a carbonated drink not a medicine, which might tell you that if you consume more than 2 tablets you might have feelings of sickness. The doctor obviously doesn't know what he's talking about or has been misquoted as drinking large quantities of water can be a lot more dangerous as it can remove vital salts from the system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.2.247.31 (talk) 13:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey, Red Bull's from Thailand, is a Thai drink

So yeah this is English language wikipedia anyways, but Red Bull's a Thai drink, it's been popular across Asia for a long time. Energy drinks like Red Bull are an Asian trend that westerners have recently adopted. The 'Origins' article puts the Thai creator backseat to his austrian partner.

It would be like a McDonalds article focusing on Chinese entrepeneurs spreading it in China and making "McDonalds global". That probably sounds absurd to most westerners, well thats how this red bull article sounds to me.

[edit] Comment from Compsult

the 50g of inositol is *incorrect*, it is actually 50mg (I can't figure out how to edit this section to correct it) – Compsult (talk) 18:16, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Fixed – Gurch 06:27, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Methinks they doth protest too much

"Red Bull is subject to numerous claims of adverse health effects, most of which are urban legends. In 2001, the drink was investigated by the Swedish National Food Administration after being linked to the deaths of three consumers, and was completely cleared. It has been subject to a number of other health concerns regarding glucuronolactone, a precursor of taurine. Glucuronolactone is a naturally occurring chemical compound produced by the metabolism of glucose in the human liver. It has received some notoriety due to urban legends that it was a Vietnam War-era drug manufactured by the American government. The rumor goes on to say that it was banned due to several brain tumor-related deaths. The rumor has since been proven false, as neither the cited British Medical Journal article nor the "banning of its consumption" ever occurred. Due to the link with taurine, only energy drinks without taurine are sold in France, but infant formula sold there (and worldwide) is commonly supplemented with taurine. Furthermore, no warnings appear on the Food and Drug Administration website regarding its potential to cause brain tumors or other maladies [6]."

This section seems so defensive that I suspect somebody employed by Red Bull had a hand in its writing.

"Due to the link with taurine, only energy drinks without taurine are sold in France, but infant formula sold there (and worldwide) is commonly supplemented with taurine. Furthermore, no warnings appear on the Food and Drug Administration website regarding its potential to cause brain tumors or other maladies."

Whether or not France allows taurine to be added to baby food is so remotely linked to Red Bull that perhaps it shouldn't be in the article. The fact that no warnings appear on the FDA website regarding Red Bull's potential to cause brain tumors certainly shouldn't be there. Should every article mention websites which don't refer to the subject matter? There is nothing in the bible indicating Red Bull's potential to cause plagues of locusts. Should that be in the article as well?

Also, the 'health concerns' section should probably mention that a 250 ml can of Red Bull contains 500% of the recommended daily allowance of vitamin B12. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.10.55.217 (talk) 09:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Not to mention 250% of the RDA of of B2. However, there seems to be little evidence either of these are capable of toxic effects via consumption of Red Bull. 20µg of B12 has been linked to dermatological and gastrointestinal issues. However, as B12 is readily excreted via the urine I am not entirely sure any quantity of Red Bull will induce these conditions; 20µg of B12 is the equivalent to drinking 5 cans, and these would have to be drunk in a very short period of time indeed to counteract it's filtration via the kidneys. B2's low solubility means that it is not readily absorbed at dangerous levels, and any nutritional excess is excreted via urine. -Iscariot (talk) 19:27, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] sole bottler for western red bull

Maybe it should also be mentioned that the Red Bull GmbH doesn't botlle red bull itself. It is all done by the company Rauch in two production sites, one being in Nueziders in Vorarlberg, Austria and the second one in Windau in Switzerland. The sitzerland plant was opend for US export only not to be affected by possible trade wars between the US and the European Union. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Strahli82 (talk • contribs) 23:10, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Crash

Perhaps the crash following most or all energy drinks follows with Red Bull. Maybe someone should look into this and it be put into the article? I have heard of crashes from 45 minutes after drinking it to no crash at all. Maybe we should find some studies and put what is found into the article? Just a thought but I saw nothing about how long the effects of Red Bull last which is why I looked up the article. Or maybe I just missed it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.188.116.1 (talk) 03:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

  • As I understand it, the crash can be attributed to your metabolism being boosted so you burn glucose faster, but it essentially doesn't give you any more fuel, just lets you burn through it faster. It's like revving a car engine so it'll go faster, but without putting anything in the gas tank. When the your blood glucose runs out, your metabolism is still amped, but with no more fuel to burn. Qaddosh|contribstalk 22:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Red Bull - Not Krating Daeng

Krating Daeng (Bull Red) is not Red Bull for ALL purposes. Red Bull was created by taking a product (from Thailand) and redesigned, manufactured, and marketed by an Austrian company founded by an Austrian man. The information should be written with a hyperlink to a page for Krating Daeng as the original idea behind Red Bull, but to focus credit on Krating Daeng or to write that Red Bull originated in Thailand is 100% false.

Krating Daeng was created in Thailand in the 1960's and distributed. Red Bull was invented based on that product. End.

That's like saying Toyota belongs to Ford because Ford first mass produced the car.

Red Bull needs to focus on Mr. Dietrich Mateschitz the FOUNDER of Red Bull from Austria, not Krating Daeng or Thailand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.9.137.72 (talk) 15:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

  • You do realize Red Bull is English for Krating Daeng and the Thai Founders own the majority of Red Bull, right? Even the logo is the sameSuredeath (talk) 02:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Please notice the very first 4 words of my first post = Krating Daeng (Bull Red).

Mr. Mateschitz had the idea of introducing Krating Daeng to the western world under the name Red Bull. He developed the company with the help of his business partner Mr. Yovidhya (a Thai national). Mr. Yovidhha and his son own 51% and Mr. Mateschitz owns49% of the privately owned Austrian company Red Bull. This company "Red Bull" was founded by Mr. Mateschitz in Austria, not by a Thai man in Thailand. Founder has nothing to do with who owns the majority of a company, but who had the idea of it and ran with it.

  Krating Daeng is very sweet and syrupy, Mr. Mateshcitz recognized the idea behind Krating Daeng and developed a product that could
  be enjoyed by western consumers. 
  Once again, the original idea came from Thailand, but it's not a Thai founded company, or is the single founder of the idea 
  "Red Bull" a Thai national.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.9.150.216 (talk) 15:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
    • What I found out is that you don't have a single clue what the word company co-founders mean.Suredeath (talk) 03:53, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Uh.. I didn't notice until now. But is he seriously arguing that Kratin Daeng is "Bull Red", and therefore not the same as "Red Bull"? That's how you write it in Thai Language, adjective comes after the noun in Thai. Suredeath (talk) 20:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About Turkish Red Bull

They sell it cheap in a shop in the UK where I am and I've noticed the first ingredient is 'Alkol' and that is has only 15g caffeine/100ml. If someone could add a section about this I would be grateful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.91.82 (talk) 12:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Thai Connection

Sadly the article is missing out on the entire story of how Red Bull came from Thailand to Austria, which is probably the most interesting thing about that swill. Maikel (talk) 18:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CSD Template On The Talkpage

I reverted the talk page to remove the template that was added here as well as to remove what appeared to be comments that were left on a user's talkpage and simply copied to this one. -- Qaddosh|talk|contribs 19:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I am not a doctor but if it helps anyone who wants to find out about some of the adverse effects of the energy drink Red Bull, I hope this can help. I started out drinking one or two a day and then after about 2 or three months it was a regular thing. Yeah I felt like I had wings and as good as can be, that is until the crashes started. Now after about two years of limited Red Bull consumption, I still can't drink one without being exhausted about 1 hr afterwards and sometimes even taking naps because the crash is stonger than the level of tiredness that I usually start out with, but I will say it is refreshing . . ?? It has a great taste in my opinion, which doesn't help. I have also experienced tiredness to the point that people try and wake me up and I cannot bring myself to wake up except for a brief moment and then I am out for hours. I haven't seen much of this type of talk anywhere, nor have I heard it from any of my friends who drink it so it could just be me, however, it is still so disturbing to me that I wanted to post this, in hopes that I may see more evidence of this type of reaction and also to help those who are looking for info on the same subject I was and could not find anything on - - health effects of red bull. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.35.90.41 (talk) 13:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)